Employer's who took a person from full time to part time to avoid compliance with PPACA

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

doubtingthomas wrote:

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Not having any wine or whine, whatever. I know Markle want's it to dissapear, it won't but rather be tweaked. Making up numbers? Not me just passing along the many meetings we've had on this and more meetings to come all summer. I try to pass a long what the corporate insurance companies know and pass along to us agents and the way it will work. Many in Florida will still go uninsured because there are those who will fall thru the crack because Florida did not accept the Medicaid monies and many of those are the one's today that use the e.r. for a common cold. If no one wants me to post after what I learn after the meetings I won't from this day forward and some of you can keep spewing your shit on what you think you might know and have learned on the internet.

I see in the newspaper this morning more layoff's at SH and they blame more of it on the medicaid cuts in the pass year Scott imposed (plus some on Medicare) and lack of surgeries because so many other place's in town also do surgeries. What will they blame it on next week? if they think their write off's are bad now, just wait. They need to cut some of those top salaries. Here all a long I thought the CEO only made $630,000, guess I didn't keep up with the times and she is paid well over a million a long with some surgeons's on staff.

doubtingthomas wrote:I see the article is dated today and yes Scott wanted to accept it before the legislature adjourned, but our state republican legislators said no they would not accept it. If something has changed since Friday June 7th Florida had not accepted it and his republican legislature thumbed their noses at Scott. This is not to say some deal's weren't made yesterday and to tell you the truth I did not care one way or another, there are people out there who qualify for medicaid today and won't get off their lazy asses to apply and there are people who could qualify today only if Florida had not changed the rules in the past couple of years. I had one woman I spoke with a couple weeks ago in her fifties with severe RA, cannot work, SS has turned her disability claims down 3 times and has income under 10,000 annually and was turned down because she did not have a child in her household. This will help her if the state has truly accepted it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/05/florida-
rejects-medicaid-expansion-leaves-1-3-million-uninsured/

dated in May. I wonder which is right? I don't know if he needs the approval of legislature or not.

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Not at all, I want the criminally INEFFICIENT and INFERIOR health care to fail, which, is already being proven, to fail. If you doubt that, look to Canada and Great Britain.

I have never made up any numbers and it is impossible for you to prove otherwise.

Of course President Barack Hussein Obama would veto any bill, following the wishes of the voters and repealing ObamaCare. It is unaffordable, unworkable and inferior to anything we have in America today.

Why do you demand that your children and their children suffer an inferior standard of living and health care than you do today. Why do you demand that they be permanently burdened under TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in unaffordable debt and taxes? Paying for your excesses and selfishness?

President Obama knew it was unaffordable and he LIED to you. If you were gullible enough to have believed him, may God help you.

doubtingthomas wrote:

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Not at all, I want the criminally INEFFICIENT and INFERIOR health care to fail, which, is already being proven, to fail. If you doubt that, look to Canada and Great Britain.

I have never made up any numbers and it is impossible for you to prove otherwise.

Of course President Barack Hussein Obama would veto any bill, following the wishes of the voters and repealing ObamaCare. It is unaffordable, unworkable and inferior to anything we have in America today.

Why do you demand that your children and their children suffer an inferior standard of living and health care than you do today. Why do you demand that they be permanently burdened under TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in unaffordable debt and taxes? Paying for your excesses and selfishness?

President Obama knew it was unaffordable and he LIED to you. If you were gullible enough to have believed him, may God help you.

No one in my business was gullible enough to believe it would be affordable for some people. You can't add so many mandates and take everyone with pre existing without someone paying thru the nose.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings. We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen. The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Not at all, I want the criminally INEFFICIENT and INFERIOR health care to fail, which, is already being proven, to fail. If you doubt that, look to Canada and Great Britain.

I have never made up any numbers and it is impossible for you to prove otherwise.

Of course President Barack Hussein Obama would veto any bill, following the wishes of the voters and repealing ObamaCare. It is unaffordable, unworkable and inferior to anything we have in America today.

Why do you demand that your children and their children suffer an inferior standard of living and health care than you do today. Why do you demand that they be permanently burdened under TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in unaffordable debt and taxes? Paying for your excesses and selfishness?

President Obama knew it was unaffordable and he LIED to you. If you were gullible enough to have believed him, may God help you.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote: The network of doctors won't change and that never was up to obama it is an individual contract between health care providers and insurance company.

I think Mr. Markle wants efficiency and better health care to fail.......Nobody I know thinks the healthcare bill as written is perfect.....there will need to be improvements, but it is an improvement for many individuals, and it allows a path for significant cost savings.   We will see in a decade who was right, but please get some cheese for your whine......the legislation is not going to go away anytime in the near future, and your making up numbers and wishing it will disappear is not going to happen.  The next president would veto any type of measure of throw the bill out, and the current Republican message, and demographics have your whine particularly shrill in its futility.

Not at all, I want the criminally INEFFICIENT and INFERIOR health care to fail, which, is already being proven, to fail.  If you doubt that, look to Canada and Great Britain.

I have never made up any numbers and it is impossible for you to prove otherwise.

Of course President Barack Hussein Obama would veto any bill, following the wishes of the voters and repealing ObamaCare.  It is unaffordable, unworkable and inferior to anything we have in America today.

Why do you demand that your children and their children suffer an inferior standard of living and health care than you do today.  Why do you demand that they be permanently burdened under TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in unaffordable debt and taxes?  Paying for your excesses and selfishness?

President Obama knew it was unaffordable and he LIED to you.  If you were gullible enough to have believed him, may God help you.

Contraire" Herr Markle- it is not inferior to having no health insurance. Why should poor children not be afforded health care so your children can have a higher standard of living by not paying enough taxes? I'm willing to pay more money so children don't suffer.Are you? I doubt it and who is selfish and excessive?

• Be under age 19
  
• Be uninsured
  
• Meet income eligibility requirements
  
• Be a U.S. citizen or qualified non-citizen
  
• Not be eligible for Medicaid
  
• Not be in a public institution
  

• There is no charge for Medicaid for children (KidCare Medicaid).
  
• For other Florida KidCare programs, monthly premiums depend on your household’s size and income. Most families pay $15 or $20 a month. If you need to pay more, Florida KidCare will let you know.
  

2seaoat wrote:I have never made up any numbers and it is impossible for you to prove otherwise.

If I took my grandkids to a ballgame, they would be looking at how the seats work, where the vendors were, watching the cool videos on the scoreboard, but they would not be watching the game.....you remind me of my grandkids......

one of the shots I get cost 3k in Canada, and 11k in America......you can talk all the crap about the failed Canadian system, but you fail to look at the huge fail in America.

The high cost of medical care in America must start with competitive pricing of our drugs.  You blame Obama for everything else, but fail to realize that in fact this is largely his fault, and it is costing billions.  No a single payer system and competitive drug pricing will be the more efficient system, but you keep looking for the vendor with the cotton candy.....I understand.

• Be under age 19
  
  
• Be uninsured
  
  
• Meet income eligibility requirements
  
  
• Be a U.S. citizen or qualified non-citizen
  
  
• Not be eligible for Medicaid
  
  
• Not be in a public institution
  

• There is no charge for Medicaid for children (KidCare Medicaid).NOSUCH THING AS KIDCARE MEDICAID IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER.
  
  
• For other Florida KidCare programs, monthly premiums depend on your household’s size and income. Most families pay $15 or $20 a month. If you need to pay more, Florida KidCare will let you know.
  

Dreamsglore wrote:

Contraire" Herr Markle- it is not inferior to having no health insurance. Why should poor children not be afforded health care so your children can have a higher standard of living by not paying enough taxes? I'm willing to pay more money so children don't suffer.Are you? I doubt it and who is selfish and excessive?

doubtingthomas wrote:Once again you pull shit off the state website that simply does not work the way they say, it's a crap shoot that once a kid receives kid's care some dumb ass state employee takes them off the next month and puts them in medicaid or completely out of the program and then the parent has to start over. I deal daily with people like this that just wants a normal policy for their kid. I know no one paying those prices for their kids most are paying somewhere between $60 and top $145.00 per month. Good luck finding a Dr who accepts Medicaid, so those kids are out of luck. Just because the state say's it work's like this, it doesn't. 

Florida KidCare is for children, not adults. 
To qualify for premium assistance, a child must:

• Be under age 19
  
  
  
  
• Be uninsured
  
  
  
  
• Meet income eligibility requirements
  
  
  
  
• Be a U.S. citizen or qualified non-citizen
  
  
  
  
• Not be eligible for Medicaid
  
  
  
  
• Not be in a public institution
  
  
  

Cost

• There is no charge for Medicaid for children (KidCare Medicaid).NOSUCH THING AS KIDCARE MEDICAID IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER.
  
  
  
  
• For other Florida KidCare programs, monthly premiums depend on your household’s size and income. Most families pay $15 or $20 a month. If you need to pay more, Florida KidCare will let you know.
  
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  If they want a normal policy, what is stopping them from putting them on their family plan?