While reading Krugman's latest article, I came across this re Texas GOP educational policies

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

knothead wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

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This kind of thing makes one wonder just what the hell the state of Texas is thinking . . . . . . there are certainly smart people there but these policies are out of the dark ages.

Floridatexan wrote:
This is like the parent who says, "Do as I say, not as I do." There's no room for any deviation from established norms. Doesn't this just really say, "Get with the program; there will be no thinking in this room."? And WTH is this opposition to early childhood education? Do they want a generation of robots?

The problem is that Texas sets the educational standards for a large number of other states. That may be thanks to the Bush family. One more thing we can add to the list of garbage they've foisted on the country.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

Hey Gumby,
Let me know when the last time you were the teacher of record in a classroom anywhere aside from FANTASYLAND.
Conservative areas of the country are spanking the hineys off of areas that promote liberal dogma in their school systems. Florida is a great example of that premise.Chicago, is the antithesis of that. Panhandle public schools are whupping the snot out of the southern area schools handsdown on FCAT and SAT/ACT performance. Unless it is a program like IB, where students are cherry picked, this is not something that should shock you.
Even the legislature of Florida has now come to the HARD realization that ONE SIZE FITS ALL EDUCATION (pushing everyone to college prep curriculums) is not the proper thing to do. Texas obviously has a clue because they have a state populace that can work the higher tech jobs with their high school and JUCO educations and still manage to keep up a standard of living. I was talking to a kid going to make nearly 100k in the oil fields just outside of the base where I am currently stationed. We're talking a kid just out of high school two to three years ago. Kids in Florida are making minimum wage. When we can reverse that trend, then we can start pointing fingers at Texas. Until then, we need to STHU.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

Hey Gumby,
Let me know when the last time you were the teacher of record in a classroom anywhere aside from FANTASYLAND.
Conservative areas of the country are spanking the hineys off of areas that promote liberal dogma in their school systems. Florida is a great example of that premise.Chicago, is the antithesis of that. Panhandle public schools are whupping the snot out of the southern area schools handsdown on FCAT and SAT/ACT performance. Unless it is a program like IB, where students are cherry picked, this is not something that should shock you.
Even the legislature of Florida has now come to the HARD realization that ONE SIZE FITS ALL EDUCATION (pushing everyone to college prep curriculums) is not the proper thing to do. Texas obviously has a clue because they have a state populace that can work the higher tech jobs with their high school and JUCO educations and still manage to keep up a standard of living. I was talking to a kid going to make nearly 100k in the oil fields just outside of the base where I am currently stationed. We're talking a kid just out of high school two to three years ago. Kids in Florida are making minimum wage. When we can reverse that trend, then we can start pointing fingers at Texas. Until then, we need to STHU.

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

Hey Gumby,
Let me know when the last time you were the teacher of record in a classroom anywhere aside from FANTASYLAND.
Conservative areas of the country are spanking the hineys off of areas that promote liberal dogma in their school systems. Florida is a great example of that premise.Chicago, is the antithesis of that. Panhandle public schools are whupping the snot out of the southern area schools handsdown on FCAT and SAT/ACT performance. Unless it is a program like IB, where students are cherry picked, this is not something that should shock you.
Even the legislature of Florida has now come to the HARD realization that ONE SIZE FITS ALL EDUCATION (pushing everyone to college prep curriculums) is not the proper thing to do. Texas obviously has a clue because they have a state populace that can work the higher tech jobs with their high school and JUCO educations and still manage to keep up a standard of living. I was talking to a kid going to make nearly 100k in the oil fields just outside of the base where I am currently stationed. We're talking a kid just out of high school two to three years ago. Kids in Florida are making minimum wage. When we can reverse that trend, then we can start pointing fingers at Texas. Until then, we need to STHU.

That would be the 1995-1996 School year.

knothead wrote:
Hey Gumby,
Let me know when the last time you were the teacher of record in a classroom anywhere aside from FANTASYLAND.
Conservative areas of the country are spanking the hineys off of areas that promote liberal dogma in their school systems. Florida is a great example of that premise.Chicago, is the antithesis of that. Panhandle public schools are whupping the snot out of the southern area schools handsdown on FCAT and SAT/ACT performance. Unless it is a program like IB, where students are cherry picked, this is not something that should shock you.
Even the legislature of Florida has now come to the HARD realization that ONE SIZE FITS ALL EDUCATION (pushing everyone to college prep curriculums) is not the proper thing to do. Texas obviously has a clue because they have a state populace that can work the higher tech jobs with their high school and JUCO educations and still manage to keep up a standard of living. I was talking to a kid going to make nearly 100k in the oil fields just outside of the base where I am currently stationed. We're talking a kid just out of high school two to three years ago. Kids in Florida are making minimum wage. When we can reverse that trend, then we can start pointing fingers at Texas. Until then, we need to STHU.

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

by Valerie Strauss

"In the you-can’t-make-up-this-stuff department, here’s what the Republican Party of Texas wrote into its 2012 platform as part of the section on education:

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.


Yes, you read that right. The party opposes the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” because it believes the purpose is to challenge a student’s “fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

It opposes, among other things, early childhood education, sex education, and multicultural education, but supports “school subjects with emphasis on the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.”

When taken with the other parts of the education platform(see below), it seems a fair conclusion that the GOP Party in Texas doesn’t think much of public education. Unfortunately, this notion isn’t limited to the GOP in Texas but is more commonly being seen across the country by some of the most strident of “school reformers.”

It should be noted that after the plank in the platform was ridiculed, Texas GOP Communications Director Chris Elam told TPM.com that it was all a big mistake and that opposition to “critical thinking” wasn’t supposed to be included. It can’t be easily removed, he said, because the platform had been approved by a party convention and any changes would also have to go through the same process. That clears things up..."

This is like the 47% remark bootlegged out of the Romney gathering. The plank ended up in their platform. It was not a big mistake. As The GOP guy says, it had been approved by a party convention.

There is a group within the GOP that is very much into authoritarian rule. They want someone to tell them what to think. It saves them the effort of thinking through issues. So if the adults are against thinking critically why would they want their children to be taught these skills?

Trouble is, if this idiotic idea influenced school board decisions it would effect the purchase of textbooks and Texas, along with California, has a big impact on what gets published in text book for elementary and high school texts.

Fortunately most adults appreciate critical thinking.

Hey Gumby,
Let me know when the last time you were the teacher of record in a classroom anywhere aside from FANTASYLAND.
Conservative areas of the country are spanking the hineys off of areas that promote liberal dogma in their school systems. Florida is a great example of that premise.Chicago, is the antithesis of that. Panhandle public schools are whupping the snot out of the southern area schools handsdown on FCAT and SAT/ACT performance. Unless it is a program like IB, where students are cherry picked, this is not something that should shock you.
Even the legislature of Florida has now come to the HARD realization that ONE SIZE FITS ALL EDUCATION (pushing everyone to college prep curriculums) is not the proper thing to do. Texas obviously has a clue because they have a state populace that can work the higher tech jobs with their high school and JUCO educations and still manage to keep up a standard of living. I was talking to a kid going to make nearly 100k in the oil fields just outside of the base where I am currently stationed. We're talking a kid just out of high school two to three years ago. Kids in Florida are making minimum wage. When we can reverse that trend, then we can start pointing fingers at Texas. Until then, we need to STHU.

That would be the 1995-1996 School year.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Northern Florida conservative districts spank those in central and south Florida yearly.

boards of FL wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Northern Florida conservative districts spank those in central and south Florida yearly.

Liberal states spank conservative states.