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Has BUSH found his heart after killing 100s of thousands of Iraqis?

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This thread is a joke. 100's of thousands???? Nope. Approximately 120K - MOSTLY killed by their own "countrymen" and terrorists. But don't let the truth get in the way of a leading title. Isn't 20-20 hindsight a wonderful thing? The armchair quarterbacks and second guessers on this thread need to wake up and smell the coffee. The 2nd war in Iraq had wide bipartisan support and also international support based on the long running subterfuge of Saddam Insane concerning WMD inspections, violations of international agreements, and incidents occurring with the Kurds. Many intelligence agencies from various countries were in agreement with the actions taken. Of course it is easy now to look back and say they were wrong but that is the way hypocrites roll.

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nochain wrote:This thread is a joke. 100's of thousands???? Nope. Approximately 120K - MOSTLY killed by their own "countrymen" and terrorists. But don't let the truth get in the way of a leading title. Isn't 20-20 hindsight a wonderful thing? The armchair quarterbacks and second guessers on this thread need to wake up and smell the coffee. The 2nd war in Iraq had wide bipartisan support and also international support based on the long running subterfuge of Saddam Insane concerning WMD inspections, violations of international agreements, and incidents occurring with the Kurds. Many intelligence agencies from various countries were in agreement with the actions taken. Of course it is easy now to look back and say they were wrong but that is the way hypocrites roll.

Yeah right. It has been found out that Saddam didn't gas the Kurds the Iranians did. It did make for for a good reason to shock and awe why let the truth get in the way...Bush is a war criminal like his pal Kissenger, hell like his daddy and his granddaddy.....war profiteers everyone.


http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/HOW%20MANY%20DIED,%20BUSH.html


This constitutes direct empirical evidence of total excess mortality and indirect, though confirming evidence of the displaced, the bereaved, and general insecurity in the country. These are the results of the war that we know. And the overall figures are stunning: 4.5 million displaced, 1-2 million widows, 5 million orphans, about one million dead—in one way or another, affecting nearly one in every two people in Iraq with tragically life-altering (or ending) impacts.

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nochain wrote:This
http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/HOW%20MANY%20DIED,%20BUSH.html


This constitutes direct empirical evidence of total excess mortality and indirect, though confirming evidence of the displaced, the bereaved, and general insecurity in the country. These are the results of the war that we know. And the overall figures are stunning: 4.5 million displaced, 1-2 million widows, 5 million orphans, about one million dead—in one way or another, affecting nearly one in every two people in Iraq with tragically life-altering (or ending) impacts.
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Sure – a John Tirman article. The guy who has made it his life’s work to perpetuate the love and peace image of ultra-liberal lunatics. No, he wouldn’t have a reason to skew or manipulate “data” gathered from unreliable sources just to reaffirm his agenda right?

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[quote="TEOTWAWKI"]http://www.voanews.com/content/george-bush-africa-cervical-cancer/1363615.html



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Even liberal thinking musician and African Issues spokesperson Bono has said over and over that President Bush did MORE for the issues in Africa than ANY President!...And yet this guy got raked over the coals at every opportunity!...

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salinsky wrote:Dubya inherited a budget surplus and squandered it. He inherited a prospering economy and destroyed it. After 9/11 he took an unprecedentedly united electorate and divided it. He will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in history, and one of the main architects of America's decline.
Actually there are many economists that say at the end of the Clinton second term the economy was heading into a recession which is why President Bush implemented the tax cuts which the COWH and liberals/socialists want repealed...'sal' you must be an enemy of the U.S. to suggest that after 9-11 that Bush divided the electorate or an idiot because it was one of the last times there has been any unity!...The COWH promised no more red or blue states only American states...how's that worked out?...

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Newsfan wrote:'sal' you must be an enemy of the U.S. to suggest that after 9-11 that Bush divided the electorate or an idiot because it was one of the last times there has been any unity!

Bullshit.

On 9/11, all of us, all together across all political, cultural and religious spectra watched the worst thing most of us had ever seen.

Together.

But in what now seems like less time than it took to wipe away the tears, the same depraved thugs who sponsored eight years of "Clinton Murdered Vince Foster!" hysteria began hijacking our pain and patriotism to serve their partisan interests right before our eyes.

The minute the Bush Administration began trying to stretch the war they got into an excuse for the war they wanted, 9/11 stopped being merely a national tragedy and started being the Bush Administration's bottomless political ATM machine.

The minute the 2004 Republican Convention morphed into an exploitative orgy of 9/11 imagery, the GOP hijacked a sacred national moment of unity and turned it into a convenient partisan sledgehammer with which to smash their opponents over the heads as unpatriotic.

The minute the Party of Personal Responsibility began using the mantra "9/11 changed everything" as the political equivalent of the Blood of Christ -- as a means to absolve themselves of their personal responsibility for eight years of malice and derangement -- for them September 11, 2001 stopped being a moment of shared, national anguish and started being a suit of cultural body-armor which magically deflected any criticism of their lies and their hypocrisy.

Eight years of Dubya's magic clearly illustrated who the enemies of the U.S. are, and your post defending them places you squarely amongst their ranks.

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salinsky wrote:
Newsfan wrote:'sal' you must be an enemy of the U.S. to suggest that after 9-11 that Bush divided the electorate or an idiot because it was one of the last times there has been any unity!

Bullshit.

On 9/11, all of us, all together across all political, cultural and religious spectra watched the worst thing most of us had ever seen.

Together.

But in what now seems like less time than it took to wipe away the tears, the same depraved thugs who sponsored eight years of "Clinton Murdered Vince Foster!" hysteria began hijacking our pain and patriotism to serve their partisan interests right before our eyes.

The minute the Bush Administration began trying to stretch the war they got into an excuse for the war they wanted, 9/11 stopped being merely a national tragedy and started being the Bush Administration's bottomless political ATM machine.

The minute the 2004 Republican Convention morphed into an exploitative orgy of 9/11 imagery, the GOP hijacked a sacred national moment of unity and turned it into a convenient partisan sledgehammer with which to smash their opponents over the heads as unpatriotic.

The minute the Party of Personal Responsibility began using the mantra "9/11 changed everything" as the political equivalent of the Blood of Christ -- as a means to absolve themselves of their personal responsibility for eight years of malice and derangement -- for them September 11, 2001 stopped being a moment of shared, national anguish and started being a suit of cultural body-armor which magically deflected any criticism of their lies and their hypocrisy.

Eight years of Dubya's magic clearly illustrated who the enemies of the U.S. are, and your post defending them places you squarely amongst their ranks.

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I almost hate to say it but that is a bunch of sniveling drivel full of misperceptions and unfounded opinion that doesn't pass the sniff test. You seem to think anyone who disagrees with your shaky stance is not a patriot and is in it "for the money". I disagree. CDR Brian Sullivan USN died at the Pentagon on 9/11 leaving a wife and new child. I served in the Navy with him. Given that connection I can honestly say I don't think Bush trivialized or politicized the tragedy. If you think that way then perhaps you ought to show your unbiased and objective side (if there is one) and criticize Oblamer for politicizing the OBL raid. But that won't happen.

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nochain wrote:If you think that way then perhaps you ought to show your unbiased and objective side (if there is one) and criticize Oblamer for politicizing the OBL raid. But that won't happen.

Yes, because exploiting for partisan gain the criminal attack on the homeland that left nearly 3,000 Americans tragically murdered, is exactly the same thing as celebrating the successful execution of the perpetrator. For gawd's sake man, use your head for something other than a hat rack.
Has BUSH found his heart after killing 100s of thousands of Iraqis? - Page 2 Facepalm-homer

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salinsky wrote:
nochain wrote:If you think that way then perhaps you ought to show your unbiased and objective side (if there is one) and criticize Oblamer for politicizing the OBL raid. But that won't happen.

Yes, because exploiting for partisan gain the criminal attack on the homeland that left nearly 3,000 Americans tragically murdered, is exactly the same thing as celebrating the successful execution of the perpetrator. For gawd's sake man, use your head for something other than a hat rack.
Has BUSH found his heart after killing 100s of thousands of Iraqis? - Page 2 Facepalm-homer

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You are too dense to make sense. Selective reading and interpretation will keep you in your fantasy land of subjective rationalization.

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nochain wrote:
You are too dense to make sense. Selective reading and interpretation will keep you in your fantasy land of subjective rationalization.

Dude, just stop already. You're embarrassing yourself. Rolling Eyes

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salinsky wrote:
nochain wrote:
You are too dense to make sense. Selective reading and interpretation will keep you in your fantasy land of subjective rationalization.

Dude, just stop already. You're embarrassing yourself. Rolling Eyes

Not at all. You are marching the lockstep and are peeved when someone calls you out on it. But that is the nature of hypocrites, Too funny. OBTW, your little cartoon suits you perfectly, thanks for the chuckle. You really ought to consider using it for your avatar.

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nochain wrote:
Not at all. You are marching the lockstep and are peeved when someone calls you out on it. But that is the nature of hypocrites,
Has BUSH found his heart after killing 100s of thousands of Iraqis? - Page 2 Star7

Yeah, you keep thinking that, little buddy. Your mommy was right. You're a winner. LOL!

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salinsky wrote:
nochain wrote:
Not at all. You are marching the lockstep and are peeved when someone calls you out on it. But that is the nature of hypocrites,
Has BUSH found his heart after killing 100s of thousands of Iraqis? - Page 2 Star7

Yeah, you keep thinking that, little buddy. Your mommy was right. You're a winner. LOL!

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I rest my case. You are so predictable!

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He has doubled U.S. trade with Africa, and has launched the largest siege against AIDS and malaria there ever. Even though the challenge is never-ending, more than 800,000 Africans are currently receiving anti-AIDS medication thanks to George Bush’s priorities. 2) Despite pressure from many quarters, Bush has kept Alaska’s ANWAR off limits for drilling.

He has increased by millions efforts to clean America’s forests to reduce the threat of wildfires, and to restore those lost or damaged.

He has further enhanced his environmental legacy by designating more than 190 million square miles of ocean as national preserves, including Hawaii’s Northwestern Islands.

With few exceptions, America’s air, water and land are cleaner today than at any time since our industrial revolution. 3) Although Bush’s record on healthcare is a mixed bag, he gets unHe has doubled U.S. trade with Africa, and has launched the largest siege against AIDS and malaria there ever. Even though the challenge is never-ending, more than 800,000 Africans are currently receiving anti-AIDS medication thanks to George Bush’s priorities. 2) Despite pressure from many quarters, Bush has kept Alaska’s ANWAR off limits for drilling.

He has increased by millions efforts to clean America’s forests to reduce the threat of wildfires, and to restore those lost or damaged.

He has further enhanced his environmental legacy by designating more than 190 million square miles of ocean as national preserves, including Hawaii’s Northwestern Islands.

With few exceptions, America’s air, water and land are cleaner today than at any time since our industrial revolution. 3) Although Bush’s record on healthcare is a mixed bag, he gets undeniable credit on at least two counts: prescription coverage for seniors,
deniable credit on at least two counts: prescription coverage for seniors,



Despite opposition from his own party, “he achieved the largest expansion in Medicare benefits in decades” as one health expert put it; especially significant “in the modern medical era in which drugs are the cornerstone of treatment.”

Also, the President literally doubled funding for community health care centers, expanding or creating 1,300 centers across the nation, several of which - Kalihi-Palama,

Waianae, Waikiki, Waimanalo - are right here in Hawaii, and represent the typical center serving otherwise under-served areas. Without such centers, expensive emergency room care would often be the only alternative. 4) Contrary to popular wisdom, in 2001 George Bush was one of the first to warn Congress of the dangers of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac run amok. Between him and John McCain, the warnings continued through 2006. Leading the pooh poohs were Democrats Sen. Chuck Shumer and U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, both leading recipients of Fannie and Freddie campaign contributions. (Click onYouTube: “Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial mess.”) 5) On the day after 9-11, I wrote: “The only way we may be able to measure victory in a war against global terrorism are the lengths of time between major attacks on our homeland.”







Although in some ways, pre-9-11 policies of both Clinton and Bush may have made us more vulnerable, Bush’s post-9-11 anti-terror policies - for better or worse - have kept us safe from another attack.

Right after 9-11, who would have bet on that possibility?

The Department of Homeland Security, the provisions of the Patriot Act, reforming the relationships between our intelligence agencies, the handling of captured enemy combatants at Guantanamo and - yes - the war in Iraq.

Whether intended or not, the Iraq war - besides liberating Iraqis from a despot and planting the seeds of a democratic ally in the most dangerous part of the world - distracted Al Qaida from plotting more attacks on the U.S. It drew them into a losing commitment, showing their darkest side to the people of Iraq and the world.

Their power and stature have been significantly diminished. Bin Laden is withering away in a dark Wiziristan cave, emitting an occasional feeble message to his wandering followers.

Yes, there is much work to be done in Afghanistan, but with Gen. David Petreaus still in overall charge at Central Command, our imminent victory in Iraq will serve as a model for victory in Afghanistan.

Oh, and for those who still think Bush “tricked” all the Western intelligence agencies and every Democrat in the Senate into buying into Saddam’s WMDs:

If you’re right, who’s smarter, them or him?

Thanks, Mr. Bush, for almost everything, but especially for the simple “cowboy” determination that has kept us and our homeland safe.

and one from me. Mr Bush woke up America to the truth. Americans no longer sit blindly buy thinking ah thats over there. I see the world differently because of Bush.

Bush was a great man, so we all know I like bush



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Before one can find which was lost one must first have it one's possession.

Bush could never find his heart. He never had one.

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

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Yella wrote:Before one can find which was lost one must first have it one's possession.

Bush could never find his heart. He never had one.

bush has always had heart.

you hsould examine the things he implimented during his presidency closer. dont get it off left wing sites. go to the gov site and look at his rulings.

Bush is a natrure lover and a perosn who cares about people.

is he perfect? no, no one is. but ya;l refuse to see the good he did

and I can live with that

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