The President's news conference on Joe Biden's committee proposals

Margin Call wrote:1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

2seaoat wrote:The President is a powerful orator. He has moved me many times. Few speeches have been more moving than his reference of hanging a painting in his study adjacent to the oval office. I pray he will find success in implementing improved gun safety in this country, and that Americans will be safer because of these actions.

I am so tired of attacks on the man......he is our President, and although I have policy disagreements.......I think gun safety is important and it is each of us in our discussions here and among our friends and neighbors which will make this country safer. I wish we could return to the common sense of the NRA in the 1930s.......gun safety is important to me.

23 executive actions, and a plea for congress to act......we will see.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The President is a powerful orator. He has moved me many times. Few speeches have been more moving than his reference of hanging a painting in his study adjacent to the oval office. I pray he will find success in implementing improved gun safety in this country, and that Americans will be safer because of these actions.

I am so tired of attacks on the man......he is our President, and although I have policy disagreements.......I think gun safety is important and it is each of us in our discussions here and among our friends and neighbors which will make this country safer. I wish we could return to the common sense of the NRA in the 1930s.......gun safety is important to me.

23 executive actions, and a plea for congress to act......we will see.

It's unpatriotic to stand by and let him take our freedoms one by one. He will never be MY POTUS.

Gunz wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The President is a powerful orator. He has moved me many times. Few speeches have been more moving than his reference of hanging a painting in his study adjacent to the oval office. I pray he will find success in implementing improved gun safety in this country, and that Americans will be safer because of these actions.

I am so tired of attacks on the man......he is our President, and although I have policy disagreements.......I think gun safety is important and it is each of us in our discussions here and among our friends and neighbors which will make this country safer. I wish we could return to the common sense of the NRA in the 1930s.......gun safety is important to me.

23 executive actions, and a plea for congress to act......we will see.

It's unpatriotic to stand by and let him take our freedoms one by one. He will never be MY POTUS.

I'd rather see every gun related crime be an automatic death sentence case than have to put up with all of this horseshit.....you use a gun in a crime, you get the needle

Gunz wrote:None of these 23 proposals would have stopped Adam Lanza.....strike one!

Margin Call wrote:

Gunz wrote:None of these 23 proposals would have stopped Adam Lanza.....strike one!

Sorry, you can't test that hypothesis.

BTW, this is what the President said today:

"Because while there is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely, no piece of legislation that will prevent every tragedy, every act of evil, if there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there is even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try."

Gunz wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

Gunz wrote:None of these 23 proposals would have stopped Adam Lanza.....strike one!

Sorry, you can't test that hypothesis.

BTW, this is what the President said today:

"Because while there is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely, no piece of legislation that will prevent every tragedy, every act of evil, if there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there is even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try."

Dont have to test it. It is a patently true statement and although I dont disagree with the statement that you quoted by the president, once again the government has missed a grand opportunity to do sound research and bring worthwhile legislation to the table at a time when public emotion is high. But guess what? strike 2

Margin Call wrote:

First you have to prove that #18 ( Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers), #7 , #14, #15, #19, and #21-23 would not have prevented or at least mitigated the death toll. You can't test the null hypothesis because it happened in the past. You are simply making a guess.

Further, did you not read the President's proposals to conduct research into the causes of gun violence?

alecto wrote:

Margin Call wrote:

First you have to prove that #18 ( Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers), #7 , #14, #15, #19, and #21-23 would not have prevented or at least mitigated the death toll. You can't test the null hypothesis because it happened in the past. You are simply making a guess.

Further, did you not read the President's proposals to conduct research into the causes of gun violence?

The true test will be if it prevents further massacres. Do you think it will?

othershoe1030 wrote:Speaking of data and scientific research, here's an article about how the NRA killed funding for gun death/accident research in Congress.

There is one consistent thing I've come to notice among the right wingers posting here and those with similar views from TV and radio: An event occurs such as the President's speech today and they are unable to respond in a measured logical manner. Instead the pattern is to leap in a giant bound from: "We need sensible gun laws." to "By God Almighty, now I KNOW they are coming in the black helos to take every last gun on the planet!! It's true! They are going to take ALL the guns."

Sorry, but this crying wolf is getting really really old. Not that the folks who spout this kind of hysteria ever held much credibility with me, but the longer this sort of 'hot flash hysteria' continues on everything from gun safety to the national debt they will continue to mainly be a group crying wolf that no one listens to in a serious way any more.

http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-nra-kills-gun-violence-research-2013-1

Gunz wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Speaking of data and scientific research, here's an article about how the NRA killed funding for gun death/accident research in Congress.

There is one consistent thing I've come to notice among the right wingers posting here and those with similar views from TV and radio: An event occurs such as the President's speech today and they are unable to respond in a measured logical manner. Instead the pattern is to leap in a giant bound from: "We need sensible gun laws." to "By God Almighty, now I KNOW they are coming in the black helos to take every last gun on the planet!! It's true! They are going to take ALL the guns."

Sorry, but this crying wolf is getting really really old. Not that the folks who spout this kind of hysteria ever held much credibility with me, but the longer this sort of 'hot flash hysteria' continues on everything from gun safety to the national debt they will continue to mainly be a group crying wolf that no one listens to in a serious way any more.

http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-nra-kills-gun-violence-research-2013-1

Yep and the left never does the same huh. wow

PkrBum wrote:It played like a leftist infomercial to me... that we all paid for.