At the GUN SHOW today...

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Mind you, this is not in the local area, but people have done absolutely NUTS in regards to the price of an AR or AK style rifle. Even the version of .22LR models are now double the price. Some ARs and AKs are TRIPLE the price. I saw one AR set at $3500. WTH? That is what fully auto weapons were going for before Newtown.

There is also an absolute LACK of handguns with high capacity mags as well. I did manage to find a Glock 22 Gen 4 that was left over at Academy (again not in Pcola).

The dealers aren't or didn't buy their stock from the manufacturers at these prices. It's akin to price gouging items after a hurricane just because they can.

Sal wrote:Fools and their money are soon parted.

2seaoat wrote:You both have been to gun shows. How do you feel on background checks on all transfers? I am hearing from friends that dealers who are at the shows are required to do background checks, but a booth next to them will jack up prices and sell the lack of paperwork......what say you......background checks are they a good thing.

alecto wrote:

2seaoat wrote:You both have been to gun shows. How do you feel on background checks on all transfers? I am hearing from friends that dealers who are at the shows are required to do background checks, but a booth next to them will jack up prices and sell the lack of paperwork......what say you......background checks are they a good thing.

I fully support background checks at gun shows and background checks for private sales. Background checks are a good thing but it would be nice if a persons mental health status was included in the background check. Due to medical privacy laws you can not ask for someones mental health history. This needs to be changed and full mental health history needs to be available for background checks on firearm purchases.

Markle wrote:Which of the spree shootings, going back to Columbine or before, would have been stopped by a more through mental health check of the individual purchasing the guns?

The common link seems to be that all of the shooters had serious mental problems but no one was willing to do anything or, in some cases, were told there was noting "they" could do until the person broke the law.

We also have to be willing to accept the fact that there are evil people in the world who will do evil things and we cannot stop them all and still live in a free society.

Markle wrote:Which of the spree shootings, going back to Columbine or before, would have been stopped by a more through mental health check of the individual purchasing the guns?

The common link seems to be that all of the shooters had serious mental problems but no one was willing to do anything or, in some cases, were told there was noting "they" could do until the person broke the law.

We also have to be willing to accept the fact that there are evil people in the world who will do evil things and we cannot stop them all and still live in a free society.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Markle wrote:Which of the spree shootings, going back to Columbine or before, would have been stopped by a more through mental health check of the individual purchasing the guns?

The common link seems to be that all of the shooters had serious mental problems but no one was willing to do anything or, in some cases, were told there was noting "they" could do until the person broke the law.

We also have to be willing to accept the fact that there are evil people in the world who will do evil things and we cannot stop them all and still live in a free society.

I'm glad to see the answers to the background check from gun enthusiasts. It reflects the responses from NRA members too so it looks as if everyone is more or less in agreement, yeah.

The mental health issue might turn out to be more along the lines of making mental health services more easily available with a better monitoring system re the patients staying on their meds. This as opposed to linking mental health issues with gun safety? It would address the mental health issue without connecting it specifically to weapons. Also there is the patient privacy aspect to consider.

As far as any new gun safety regs stopping crazies from getting their hands on guns, that is always a problem but shouldn't keep us from taking steps to at least try and curb their access. In other words we shouldn't let the perfect get in the way of the good.

W_T_M wrote:
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Let's push the envelope and require that all folk who purchase any guns etc., have health care insurance. I wonder how many of those gun show sales go to people who complain that they cannot afford heath care for their family while they're buying $3,000 weapons and ammo. Meanwhile, we support their kids with food stamps and school lunches and visits to the ER.

Chances are that if they have insurance, someone is at least aware when severe mental illness is involved.

PkrBum wrote:I think it's odd too that leftists don't think an ID should be required to vote... but think we should have background checks.

What does infringed mean to you folks?

PkrBum wrote:I think it's odd too that leftists don't think an ID should be required to vote... but think we should have background checks.

What does infringed mean to you folks?

W_T_M wrote:

PkrBum wrote:I think it's odd too that leftists don't think an ID should be required to vote... but think we should have background checks.

What does infringed mean to you folks?

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I think it's odd too that you think that me as a Liberal believes that an ID should not be required to vote. What BS.

What does projection mean to you...?

Sal wrote:

PkrBum wrote:I think it's odd too that leftists don't think an ID should be required to vote... but think we should have background checks.

What does infringed mean to you folks?

See the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Markle wrote:Which of the spree shootings, going back to Columbine or before, would have been stopped by a more through mental health check of the individual purchasing the guns?

The common link seems to be that all of the shooters had serious mental problems but no one was willing to do anything or, in some cases, were told there was noting "they" could do until the person broke the law.

We also have to be willing to accept the fact that there are evil people in the world who will do evil things and we cannot stop them all and still live in a free society.

PkrBum wrote:

W_T_M wrote:

PkrBum wrote:I think it's odd too that leftists don't think an ID should be required to vote... but think we should have background checks.

What does infringed mean to you folks?

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I think it's odd too that you think that me as a Liberal believes that an ID should not be required to vote. What BS.

What does projection mean to you...?

Perhaps I didn't project you as a leftist.