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My stereotype of somebody who chose the military as a vocation

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2seaoat



This is honestly my impression of the mercenary military. Soft people who go in their mother's basement and talk about how important their courage is to protect the country. Nope, just another weak screw up who found refuge in the Military. When will America wake up and demilitarize this society. This guy even looks like wally cox. Being in the military does NOT mean you are a hero. There are exceptions, but those that do, rarely talk about it. That leaves us with the vast majority of people who had no other options.

http://www.northescambia.com/2018/08/navy-tech-arrested-on-child-porn-charges

Could you imagine if folks stereotyped the military like they do undocumented workers.   Just run up searches all around the world were Our military is hurting people.........would that be anymore fair?

RealLindaL



Forgive me for not being able to recall, Sea -- did you ever do military service?

2seaoat



Forgive me for not being able to recall, Sea -- did you ever do military service?

Not a chance I would volunteer for the Viet Nam war which by the summer of 1970 was winding down and bringing troops home. My draft number was 305 so there was zero chance of being drafted as they were only going up to about 50. I had studied Southeast Asia and believed we were just fighting France's colonial war. Viet Nam is unified and doing well in the world. Just like when North Korea and South Korea need unification of their people without the American colonialism. We have not fought a war in defense of this country for over 70 years. We are a militarized nation which makes huge profits from war as the Saudis blow up kids on buses with our bombs and the MIC waits to start another conflict. I found nothing heroic about killing people fighting for THEIR independence from colonialism. I was in high school working to save for a University education, and paid for every dime and graduated in 2.5 years without having to become a killer of civilians in an unjust war.

RealLindaL



OK, I see -- all is clear now.  Thank you.

Vikingwoman



I sincerely doubt Oatie you graduated in 2.5 years merely due to the fact schools wouldn't allow that kind of load. I graduated in 3 but that was going summers w/ the max load.

gatorfan



2seaoat wrote:This is honestly my impression of the mercenary military. Soft people who go in their mother's basement and talk about how important their courage is to protect the country. Nope, just another weak screw up who found refuge in the Military. When will America wake up and demilitarize this society. This guy even looks like wally cox. Being in the military does NOT mean you are a hero. There are exceptions, but those that do, rarely talk about it. That leaves us with the vast majority of people who had no other options.

http://www.northescambia.com/2018/08/navy-tech-arrested-on-child-porn-charges

Could you imagine if folks stereotyped the military like they do undocumented workers.   Just run up searches all around the world were Our military is hurting people.........would that be anymore fair?

Poor 2SO, YOU stereotype and belittle the military but think it's wrong if someone else "stereotypes" folks who are breaking the law by being here illegally....You're a bigot on so many levels and that's a fact. It's a good thing you never did a minute in uniform though - a small minded person like you would be detrimental to any military unit......

Your follow-on post about how great you are graduating in 2.5 years is hilarious - you act like you are the only one who worked their way through college. BFD, so did I and thousands of others but I don't hear anyone else tootling their little tin horn about it. You're a legend in your own mind.

zsomething



All kinds of people join the military, so I wouldn't try stereotyping them. Yeah, there are some bad people, like there are in any large group. Then there are a lot of people who sincerely want to protect their country. And, mostly, you have a lot of people who want a way to pay for college and don't have other means to do it, and there's nothing wrong or ignoble about that. I respect people in the military until they -- like this guy -- prove they aren't worthy of respect. But I don't take this guy as any sort of representative of the whole, because I know he isn't.

2seaoat



I sincerely doubt Oatie you graduated in 2.5 years merely due to the fact schools wouldn't allow that kind of load. I graduated in 3 but that was going summers w/ the max load.

The registration folks would not let me take 30 quarter hours and I asked to speak to the head guy. I pointed out the language which allowed people with high gpa to take additional hours over the 15 quarter hours. I gave him my transcript and I got two quarters of 60 hours. They promptly changed the student handbook the next year, but I had graduated and worked in a tailpipe muffler distribution center and banked enough to pay for my graduate school.

you act like you are the only one who worked their way through college. BFD, so did I and thousands of others but I don't hear anyone else tootling their little tin horn about it. You're a legend in your own mind.

All my friends did exactly what I did. They worked their way through school. Out of a class of 700 plus we had about five people join the military. People who could did, and those without options did what they had to.....sorry gator it takes stereotypes to counter the false stereotype that just because somebody who served gets automatic respect. I think of Larry David not thanking a veteran for his service as the veteran freaked and had a mental breakdown......sorry not everybody has a paycheck or belief that America should be a military society.....I will go with the founding fathers. But you are right.......I do brag about myself sometimes which is NOT a very good thing.......but heck if it irritates you, which you know I enjoy, I guess I will keep doing it. Dreams just likes arguing with me.......I should have married her because she likes to dish it back.

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote: I was in high school working to save for a University education, and paid for every dime and graduated in 2.5 years...

You keep crowing about working to put yourself through school. Well, you couldn't do that now.

Tuition, books, room & board, etc. for one year at the University of Florida are more than $20,000! How in hell is a 19 or 20 year old kid gonna make that working summers?

Try and get a little perspective here. You and your poker buddies may not have noticed but things have changed a bit since the Eisenhower administration.

One kid of a friend of mine is pushing 40 and STILL struggling with his school debt. He can't even buy a house because of it and he's worked every day since he graduated.

I know it's tough but try and drag yourself, kicking and screaming, into the Twenty-first century. And maybe show a little empathy for hard working young folks today instead of bragging about yourself all the time. You sound like Trump with this bullshit.

Vikingwoman



I'm w/ Oatie on this one.Just because you served in the military doesn't make you a hero. Unless you were on the front lines and saw combat doesn't give you automatic hero status. The hero worshipping of the military in this country is absurd. Too many sorry people were in the military just because they had no other options and they're were still sorry when they got out.

gatorfan



Vikingwoman wrote:I'm w/ Oatie on this one.Just because you served in the military doesn't make you a hero. Unless you were on the front lines and saw combat doesn't give you automatic hero status. The hero worshipping of the military in this country is absurd. Too many sorry people were in the military just because they had no other options and they're were still sorry when they got out.

As a 20 year retired vet, and one who also has combat experience, I can emphatically say I don't know ANYONE (current or former military) who considers themselves "a hero" simply because they served. That's a label foisted on military folks by people who know nothing about the military. I consider the label embarrassing.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Well... i think that each member of the service that sees combat or field support is a hero and i appreciate your service. I think that the term "hero" is thrown out there by the leftists as a derisive term in order to create another identity political division. We've even seen politician call retired military domestic threats and their benefits a drain on the economy... while at the same come promoting social welfare. They don't even question the talkingpoints anymore... just slurp them up.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

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Telstar

Telstar

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