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PkrBum

PkrBum

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:What did he specifically obstruct? I highly doubt there's a case to be made there. We'd know it by now.

The leakers have been prolific during the past year.

Did he admit to firing Comey to stop the Russia investigation?  Did he order the firing of Mueller last June?  Did he order Bannon to refuse to testify before an investigating committee?  Did he have one of his attorneys pay $130,000 to a woman he had sex with, in order to buy her silence?

Did he? Provide the evidence. I'll wait.

Telstar

Telstar

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:What did he specifically obstruct? I highly doubt there's a case to be made there. We'd know it by now.

The leakers have been prolific during the past year.

Did he admit to firing Comey to stop the Russia investigation?  Did he order the firing of Mueller last June?  Did he order Bannon to refuse to testify before an investigating committee?  Did he have one of his attorneys pay $130,000 to a woman he had sex with, in order to buy her silence?

Did he? Provide the evidence. I'll wait.

Please do wait ... and hold your breath. Trump admitted in an interview with Lester Holt on TV that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation. Regarding the payment to the porn star to keep her mouth closed about their sexual affair, the woman admits she was paid, and several sources have been corroborated attesting to the payment to the woman by one of Trump's attorneys. Bannon testified to congress that he had been ordered by the White House not to answer certain types of questions. Hang on their PkrBum... till you collapse. LOL

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

PkrBum wrote:What did he specifically obstruct? I highly doubt there's a case to be made there. We'd know it by now.

Trump asked Comey to stand down on the Flynn investigation.   Comey refused.  Trump fired Comey very soon thereafter because of it.  (why would Trump have asked Comey for his loyalty and to stand down on an investigation if he was looking to fire him soon for other reasons anyway?   No.  It's very clear Comey was fired for not doing Trump's bidding vis-a-vis the Russian investigations)


So, yeah ... sounds like attempted obstruction to me.

PkrBum wrote:
The leakers have been prolific during the past year.

Every President has to deal with leaks.  Some do it better than others.  If President Trump can't control the leakers in his administration ... that's his problem/fault, and his alone.   He needs to get his own (white) house in order before he goes whining about it and pointing fingers at others.

Being neither a Trump nor a Hillary fan and an independent so far as "parties" go" .... I have no particular axe to grind here, I'm just saying.   Personally, I'd rather stick it out with Trump the next three years than have Pence get in there.  I have this feeling Pence is quite the sneaky one and far more socially conservative than he and his sycophants let on. Actually, I'm hoping Trump will have a primary challenger for 2020 who is a decent human being I can vote for.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:What did he specifically obstruct? I highly doubt there's a case to be made there. We'd know it by now.

The leakers have been prolific during the past year.

Did he admit to firing Comey to stop the Russia investigation?  Did he order the firing of Mueller last June?  Did he order Bannon to refuse to testify before an investigating committee?  Did he have one of his attorneys pay $130,000 to a woman he had sex with, in order to buy her silence?

He is within his constitutional powers to fire the fbi director for ANY reason... ANY (see article 2). He can also order the fbi to investigate or end an investigation... again a constitutionally protected power of the potus. Did he try to fire Mueller? Link with real evidence... not an unnamed whatever. Same for Bannon... although there is protected speech with the potus... so maybe there was consultation... so what? Again... so what if he paid a settlement... for consensual sex? Isn't that "just sex"? Y'all are literally being driven insane by leftist groupthink.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

PkrBum wrote:

He is within his constitutional powers to fire the fbi director for ANY reason... ANY (see article 2).....

Including for the purpose of ending a criminal investigation into his own campaign?   Sounds pretty Watergatey to me.

Who're are you trying to kid, 'Pkr'?   This ain't really about what Comey did or didn't do anyway ... it's about Trumpers blindly defending Trump regardless of what he does/doesn't do. (not too unlike some Obamaphiles)  If Obama fired Comey because he refused to shut down the FBI investigation into Hillary's emails, you'd have been calling for his head on an impeachment platter, and you know it.

PkrBum

PkrBum

EmeraldGhost wrote:
PkrBum wrote:

He is within his constitutional powers to fire the fbi director for ANY reason... ANY (see article 2).....

Including for the purpose of ending a criminal investigation into his own campaign?   Sounds pretty Watergatey to me.

Who're are you trying to kid, 'Pkr'?   This ain't really about what Comey did or didn't do anyway ... it's about Trumpers blindly defending Trump regardless of what he does/doesn't do.  (not too unlike some Obamaphiles)  If Obama fired Comey because he refused to shut down the FBI investigation into Hillary's emails, you'd have been calling for his head on an impeachment platter, and you know it.

Neither are outside of his constitutionally protected powers. What's to argue about that fact?

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EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

PkrBum wrote:

Neither are outside of his constitutionally protected powers. ....

"protected" ???   Neither the FBI nor it's Director are mentioned in the Constitution, nor is there mention of who hires/fire the FBI Director.  As I understand, the FBI was initially created by EO merging a former Federal investigative department with the department responsible for alcohol prohibition enforcement ... and the new department was later legislatively codified by the Congress.


Anyways .... it's not about whether the President has authority to appoint or remove the FBI Director ... clearly he does, or rather, actually, it's the Attorney General who has the authority per 28 USC 532.   (That's why Trump needed the Rosenstein memo.)  

What it's about is Trump removed Comey with the express and sole intent of obstructing the FBI investigation into his campaign's activities.   That's plenty clear to me and constitutes malfeasance of office IMO.   He should be impeached ... but probably better that doesn't happen 'cause we'd end up with Pence.   Same with Bill Clinton ... we'd have gotten Gore, so probably better for us all old Bill didn't get thrown out of office and ridden out of DC on a rail!  (as he deserved)

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Trump's in an interesting trap now if he agrees to talk to Mueller.

He'll be asked, "Did you plan to fire Mueller?"

If he says "Yes," then it's admission of obstruction of justice.

If he says "No," it's perjury.

They're going to try to keep Trump as far from Mueller as possible.

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:Trump's in an interesting trap now if he agrees to talk to Mueller.

He'll be asked, "Did you plan to fire Mueller?"

If he says "Yes," then it's admission of obstruction of justice.

If he says "No," it's perjury.

They're going to try to keep Trump as far from Mueller as possible.




Or on the other hand he might blubber "I don't remember" like the original dotard in chief Ronzo Reagan did. He can ever break Ronzo's record by 1 if he utters it 89 times. Laughing

zsomething



Telstar wrote:
zsomething wrote:Trump's in an interesting trap now if he agrees to talk to Mueller.

He'll be asked, "Did you plan to fire Mueller?"

If he says "Yes," then it's admission of obstruction of justice.

If he says "No," it's perjury.

They're going to try to keep Trump as far from Mueller as possible.



Or on the other hand he might blubber "I don't remember" like the original dotard in chief Ronzo Reagan did. He can ever break Ronzo's record by 1 if he utters it 89 times. Laughing

He can try, but I doubt Mueller's going to take "I don't remember" for an answer on something that big. Smile

Trump's in a box! Even if they didn't use that trap on him, it'll be almost impossible for the idiot not to blab something. He screws himself up every time he opens his mouth. There's nothing in this world more reckless than an idiot who believes he's a genius... Very Happy

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

Telstar wrote:
zsomething wrote:Trump's in an interesting trap now if he agrees to talk to Mueller.

He'll be asked, "Did you plan to fire Mueller?"

If he says "Yes," then it's admission of obstruction of justice.

If he says "No," it's perjury.

They're going to try to keep Trump as far from Mueller as possible.


Or on the other hand he might blubber "I don't remember" like the original dotard in chief Ronzo Reagan did. He can ever break Ronzo's record by 1 if he utters it 89 times. Laughing

"I can't remember, my brain's in a blender, it's Jello!"
Laughing

Telstar

Telstar

EmeraldGhost wrote:
Telstar wrote:
zsomething wrote:Trump's in an interesting trap now if he agrees to talk to Mueller.

He'll be asked, "Did you plan to fire Mueller?"

If he says "Yes," then it's admission of obstruction of justice.

If he says "No," it's perjury.

They're going to try to keep Trump as far from Mueller as possible.


Or on the other hand he might blubber "I don't remember" like the original dotard in chief Ronzo Reagan did. He can ever break Ronzo's record by 1 if he utters it 89 times. Laughing

"I can't remember, my brain's in a blender, it's Jello!"  
Laughing




Try to remember Aleppo. Laughing

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