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I said what I had to say to get elected. I'm President. Fuck the Voters . . .

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The Pussy Grabber claimed he was going to Washington, DC to "drain the swamp," get rid of the lobbyists, toss out all the bums who are screwing the USA for money ..."

Well suckers, he's in thanks to you, and now he's surrounded himself with lobbyists and establishment millionaires.

And you though Obama was bad ....

Reality.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40331-the-dark-money-cabinet

2seaoat



Nothing new yet.......but I will give him the benefit of the doubt based on proposed legislation he will support. I am afraid it may all be a scam.

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:The Pussy Grabber claimed he was going to Washington, DC to "drain the swamp," get rid of the lobbyists, toss out all the bums who are screwing the USA for money ..."

Well suckers, he's in thanks to you, and now he's surrounded himself with lobbyists and establishment millionaires.  

And you though Obama was bad ....

Reality.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40331-the-dark-money-cabinet

More like Obama...hate it for you. Sucks to be the LOSER, huh

RealLindaL



Sadly, the losers will likely be the American people -- all of them.

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:The Pussy Grabber claimed he was going to Washington, DC to "drain the swamp," get rid of the lobbyists, toss out all the bums who are screwing the USA for money ..."

Well suckers, he's in thanks to you, and now he's surrounded himself with lobbyists and establishment millionaires.  

And you though Obama was bad ....

Reality.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40331-the-dark-money-cabinet

No... it's thanks to everyone that supported and voted for hillary. She's literally the only one he could beat.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Tellthetruth wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:The Pussy Grabber claimed he was going to Washington, DC to "drain the swamp," get rid of the lobbyists, toss out all the bums who are screwing the USA for money ..."

Well suckers, he's in thanks to you, and now he's surrounded himself with lobbyists and establishment millionaires.  

And you though Obama was bad ....

Reality.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40331-the-dark-money-cabinet

More like Obama...hate it for you. Sucks to be the LOSER, huh

Who the fuck did you vote for? Trump didn't make all those promises to you too? Weren't you hoping he would drain the swamp? It's not me he double crossed. It's you, dummy

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:The Pussy Grabber claimed he was going to Washington, DC to "drain the swamp," get rid of the lobbyists, toss out all the bums who are screwing the USA for money ..."

Well suckers, he's in thanks to you, and now he's surrounded himself with lobbyists and establishment millionaires.  

And you though Obama was bad ....

Reality.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40331-the-dark-money-cabinet

No... it's thanks to everyone that supported and voted for hillary. She's literally the only one he could beat.

What's your point? If you didn't want Trump, who were you supposed to vote for? I agree, Bernie would have beaten the Pussy Grabber, and Hillary and the DNC made sure he wasn't the candidate.

Are you as pissed about the outcome as I am?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

So, we were suppose to trust the cheating democrat nominee?

Sal

Sal

Wordslinger wrote:I agree, Bernie would have beaten the Pussy Grabber,

It was most certainly the Democratic Party’s fault, but not because they didn’t select Bernie Sanders.

Because if you think for one minute some aging hippy intellectual, a declared socialist, from one of those liberal New England states would have fared any better in those red areas on the map with his talk of free college and windmills, you haven’t been paying attention. And all those hardcore third party voters who wrote in Bernie or blackened the circle for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson simply gave the Electors that much more margin to throw in with Trump.

Now before you get all pissed off, I’m not blaming Bernie supporters or third party voters for how things turned out and as I have said many times previously, you each have the inalienable right to vote your franchise as your conscience dictates.

And you, like the rest of us now, will now have to live with the consequences of it – though I’ll take this opportunity to remind you that those consequences don’t apply to all equally and some are going to pay horribly more than others.

My point here is this: Third party voters didn’t cost the democrats this election.

No, this race was lost by the political parties.

It was lost by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, both of which looked at that map and saw little squares full of numbers instead of people.

The Republicans ended up with Trump because after 30 years of increasingly strident religion-fueled lunacy, after a full eight years of conspiracy theories and obstructionism and childish histrionics, they were unable to produce anything better. They were hoisted on their own ridiculous petard.

More than anything, Republicans ended up with Trump because they could not compromise, they could not bend their sacred principles.

The Democrats ended up with Trump for the same reason.

Look at that map again.

What do you see?

Walk it back for the last 30 years. The blobs of red and blue move a little bit, growing, shrinking, but the overall values change very little – particularly if you adjust for population growth and migration.

What’s that tell you?

Democrats – liberals and progressives – are just as inflexible and just as lousy at reaching out to the other side as Republicans are.

You and I laugh when the GOP declares with all seriousness that they are reaching out to minorities of color. To women. To the LGBT community. To immigrants. We laugh, and rightly so, because it’s ridiculous.

But if you look at that map, you’ll see Democrats – or third parties – aren’t any better at reaching out to rednecks and evangelicals and all those people who listen to radio stations broadcasting endless sermons of fire and divine wrath, Good Ol’ Country Boys singing about flags and trucks and guns, and endless conspiracy theories of doom and betrayal from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones.

Abortion. Trade. Immigrants. Terrorism. Guns. Jobs. Same sex marriage.

All of these things are aspects of the same division: those who embrace change and those who fear it.

Clinton, as Bernie Sanders supporters are wont to point out, is an establishment candidate. Staid. Pantsuit. Wall Street. More of the same. She should have been able to bridge that divide, to cross over, far far better than some rich billionaire from New York. But for numerous reasons she couldn’t or didn’t – not even to the degree Obama did in 2008 and 2012 (which as it turned out, was just enough). And again, if you think Bernie Sanders, a guy much further left than Clinton, could have done better with the same demographic, you’re just fooling yourself.

Trump shouldn’t have appealed to any of those in the red zones of that map.

I mean, look at that guy. Billionaire. New Yorker real estate developer. Atlantic City and Las Vegas casino owner. Married to a string of super models. Obnoxious. Uncouth. Foulmouthed.

But it was Trump’s bombastic disorganized campaign – and the man himself – which tapped directly into that fear of change at a visceral level.

Make America great again, and to the white people in the red zone, that means churches and deer season and homecoming and fences and Little League games, build a wall and keep America for Americans.

That’s why the pundits and political scientists and the pollsters got it all wrong.

Those people, if you call them up on the phone and ask if they are racists, they’ll say no. Because they don’t think they are. Because to them racism is burning crosses and lynching and they aren’t doing any of that. But they don’t want brown people moving into their neighborhoods, because on TV people with dark skin are thugs and rappers and terrorists and not like them. If you ask if they hate Muslims they’ll say no, but they love Jesus and they hate terrorists and the sons of bitches who blew up the World Trade Center, just like their grandparent hated the Japs and the Krauts. They don’t hate Mexicans, they hate people who take their jobs. They go to a Trump rally and who do they meet? People just like them, people who look just like they do, who own farms and small businesses, who lost their jobs to Mexico and Bangladesh, who are angry that they have to pay taxes to support welfare cheats and moochers, who go to the same kind of church they do and worship the same God. They want America to be great again like it used to be for their grandparents, that golden magical time of the 1950s with jobs and traditional marriages and white picket fences and they don’t want to hear about how that time wasn’t a paradise for everybody.

They don’t want change.

They want it the way it was.

And that’s why Hillary Clinton lost.

http://www.stonekettle.com/2016/11/bug-hunt.html

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I agree, Bernie would have beaten the Pussy Grabber,

It was most certainly the Democratic Party’s fault, but not because they didn’t select Bernie Sanders.

Because if you think for one minute some aging hippy intellectual, a declared socialist, from one of those liberal New England states would have fared any better in those red areas on the map with his talk of free college and windmills, you haven’t been paying attention.  And all those hardcore third party voters who wrote in Bernie or blackened the circle for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson simply gave the Electors that much more margin to throw in with Trump.

Now before you get all pissed off, I’m not blaming Bernie supporters or third party voters for how things turned out and as I have said many times previously, you each have the inalienable right to vote your franchise as your conscience dictates.

And you, like the rest of us now, will now have to live with the consequences of it – though I’ll take this opportunity to remind you that those consequences don’t apply to all equally and some are going to pay horribly more than others.

My point here is this: Third party voters didn’t cost the democrats this election.

No, this race was lost by the political parties.

It was lost by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, both of which looked at that map and saw little squares full of numbers instead of people.

The Republicans ended up with Trump because after 30 years of increasingly strident religion-fueled lunacy, after a full eight years of conspiracy theories and obstructionism and childish histrionics, they were unable to produce anything better. They were hoisted on their own ridiculous petard.

More than anything, Republicans ended up with Trump because they could not compromise, they could not bend their sacred principles.

The Democrats ended up with Trump for the same reason.

Look at that map again.

What do you see?

Walk it back for the last 30 years. The blobs of red and blue move a little bit, growing, shrinking, but the overall values change very little – particularly if you adjust for population growth and migration.

What’s that tell you?

Democrats – liberals and progressives – are just as inflexible and just as lousy at reaching out to the other side as Republicans are.

You and I laugh when the GOP declares with all seriousness that they are reaching out to minorities of color. To women. To the LGBT community. To immigrants. We laugh, and rightly so, because it’s ridiculous.

But if you look at that map, you’ll see Democrats – or third parties – aren’t any better at reaching out to rednecks and evangelicals and all those people who listen to radio stations broadcasting endless sermons of fire and divine wrath, Good Ol’ Country Boys singing about flags and trucks and guns, and endless conspiracy theories of doom and betrayal from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones.

Abortion. Trade. Immigrants. Terrorism. Guns. Jobs. Same sex marriage.

All of these things are aspects of the same division: those who embrace change and those who fear it.

Clinton, as Bernie Sanders supporters are wont to point out, is an establishment candidate. Staid. Pantsuit. Wall Street. More of the same. She should have been able to bridge that divide, to cross over, far far better than some rich billionaire from New York. But for numerous reasons she couldn’t or didn’t – not even to the degree Obama did in 2008 and 2012 (which as it turned out, was just enough). And again, if you think Bernie Sanders, a guy much further left than Clinton, could have done better with the same demographic, you’re just fooling yourself.

Trump shouldn’t have appealed to any of those in the red zones of that map.

I mean, look at that guy. Billionaire. New Yorker real estate developer. Atlantic City and Las Vegas casino owner. Married to a string of super models. Obnoxious. Uncouth. Foulmouthed.

But it was Trump’s bombastic disorganized campaign – and the man himself – which tapped directly into that fear of change at a visceral level.

Make America great again, and to the white people in the red zone, that means churches and deer season and homecoming and fences and Little League games, build a wall and keep America for Americans.

That’s why the pundits and political scientists and the pollsters got it all wrong.

Those people, if you call them up on the phone and ask if they are racists, they’ll say no. Because they don’t think they are. Because to them racism is burning crosses and lynching and they aren’t doing any of that. But they don’t want brown people moving into their neighborhoods, because on TV people with dark skin are thugs and rappers and terrorists and not like them. If you ask if they hate Muslims they’ll say no, but they love Jesus and they hate terrorists and the sons of bitches who blew up the World Trade Center, just like their grandparent hated the Japs and the Krauts. They don’t hate Mexicans, they hate people who take their jobs.  They go to a Trump rally and who do they meet? People just like them, people who look just like they do, who own farms and small businesses, who lost their jobs to Mexico and Bangladesh, who are angry that they have to pay taxes to support welfare cheats and moochers, who go to the same kind of church they do and worship the same God. They want America to be great again like it used to be for their grandparents, that golden magical time of the 1950s with jobs and traditional marriages and white picket fences and they don’t want to hear about how that time wasn’t a paradise for everybody.

They don’t want change.

They want it the way it was.

And that’s why Hillary Clinton lost.

http://www.stonekettle.com/2016/11/bug-hunt.html

Even the republicans admit had Trump's competition been Bernie, he would have lost.  Your claim that the aging socialist wouldn't have won is pure bullshit -- just like the bullshit you shoveled telling us how wonderful Hillary was ... she was a lying, thieving ambitious bitch who, like her pervert husband figures she's too good to follow rules.  Worse yet, she was in bed with Wall Street and was absolutely, unquestionably representing Obama's policies-- the establishment.

It wasn't white people who were afraid of others who won the game for Trump -- it was everyone, right and left who figures America is headed down the wrong path, and that the economic game for most of us (Bernie's main theme) is rigged for the 1%.  If you don't understand this, don't pretend to tell us why Trump won and Hillary didn't.

Bernie or Elizabeth Warren -- staying on the theme of economic injustice, would have trashed the Pussy Grabber.  Hell, I'm a lifelong democrat and I didn't believe Hillary.  And while I like his style and character, the truth is Obama has been a disaster -- healthcare, the wars continuing, college debt climbing, and he never protested against NAFTA or any of the trade deals that murdered our middle class.

Obama's biggest problem was being a black president in a racist country -- the republicans wouldn't work with him or compromise from day one.  It wasn't Obama's fault.  It was ours for thinking a black president would be treated fairly in a country that still reeks of white
Christian racism.  
Reality.

Sal

Sal

Wordslinger wrote:
It wasn't white people who were afraid of others who won the game for Trump --

Sure it was.

Go to the link and look at the maps.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I agree, Bernie would have beaten the Pussy Grabber,

It was most certainly the Democratic Party’s fault, but not because they didn’t select Bernie Sanders.

Because if you think for one minute some aging hippy intellectual, a declared socialist, from one of those liberal New England states would have fared any better in those red areas on the map with his talk of free college and windmills, you haven’t been paying attention.  And all those hardcore third party voters who wrote in Bernie or blackened the circle for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson simply gave the Electors that much more margin to throw in with Trump.

Now before you get all pissed off, I’m not blaming Bernie supporters or third party voters for how things turned out and as I have said many times previously, you each have the inalienable right to vote your franchise as your conscience dictates.

And you, like the rest of us now, will now have to live with the consequences of it – though I’ll take this opportunity to remind you that those consequences don’t apply to all equally and some are going to pay horribly more than others.

My point here is this: Third party voters didn’t cost the democrats this election.

No, this race was lost by the political parties.

It was lost by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, both of which looked at that map and saw little squares full of numbers instead of people.

The Republicans ended up with Trump because after 30 years of increasingly strident religion-fueled lunacy, after a full eight years of conspiracy theories and obstructionism and childish histrionics, they were unable to produce anything better. They were hoisted on their own ridiculous petard.

More than anything, Republicans ended up with Trump because they could not compromise, they could not bend their sacred principles.

The Democrats ended up with Trump for the same reason.

Look at that map again.

What do you see?

Walk it back for the last 30 years. The blobs of red and blue move a little bit, growing, shrinking, but the overall values change very little – particularly if you adjust for population growth and migration.

What’s that tell you?

Democrats – liberals and progressives – are just as inflexible and just as lousy at reaching out to the other side as Republicans are.

You and I laugh when the GOP declares with all seriousness that they are reaching out to minorities of color. To women. To the LGBT community. To immigrants. We laugh, and rightly so, because it’s ridiculous.

But if you look at that map, you’ll see Democrats – or third parties – aren’t any better at reaching out to rednecks and evangelicals and all those people who listen to radio stations broadcasting endless sermons of fire and divine wrath, Good Ol’ Country Boys singing about flags and trucks and guns, and endless conspiracy theories of doom and betrayal from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones.

Abortion. Trade. Immigrants. Terrorism. Guns. Jobs. Same sex marriage.

All of these things are aspects of the same division: those who embrace change and those who fear it.

Clinton, as Bernie Sanders supporters are wont to point out, is an establishment candidate. Staid. Pantsuit. Wall Street. More of the same. She should have been able to bridge that divide, to cross over, far far better than some rich billionaire from New York. But for numerous reasons she couldn’t or didn’t – not even to the degree Obama did in 2008 and 2012 (which as it turned out, was just enough). And again, if you think Bernie Sanders, a guy much further left than Clinton, could have done better with the same demographic, you’re just fooling yourself.

Trump shouldn’t have appealed to any of those in the red zones of that map.

I mean, look at that guy. Billionaire. New Yorker real estate developer. Atlantic City and Las Vegas casino owner. Married to a string of super models. Obnoxious. Uncouth. Foulmouthed.

But it was Trump’s bombastic disorganized campaign – and the man himself – which tapped directly into that fear of change at a visceral level.

Make America great again, and to the white people in the red zone, that means churches and deer season and homecoming and fences and Little League games, build a wall and keep America for Americans.

That’s why the pundits and political scientists and the pollsters got it all wrong.

Those people, if you call them up on the phone and ask if they are racists, they’ll say no. Because they don’t think they are. Because to them racism is burning crosses and lynching and they aren’t doing any of that. But they don’t want brown people moving into their neighborhoods, because on TV people with dark skin are thugs and rappers and terrorists and not like them. If you ask if they hate Muslims they’ll say no, but they love Jesus and they hate terrorists and the sons of bitches who blew up the World Trade Center, just like their grandparent hated the Japs and the Krauts. They don’t hate Mexicans, they hate people who take their jobs.  They go to a Trump rally and who do they meet? People just like them, people who look just like they do, who own farms and small businesses, who lost their jobs to Mexico and Bangladesh, who are angry that they have to pay taxes to support welfare cheats and moochers, who go to the same kind of church they do and worship the same God. They want America to be great again like it used to be for their grandparents, that golden magical time of the 1950s with jobs and traditional marriages and white picket fences and they don’t want to hear about how that time wasn’t a paradise for everybody.

They don’t want change.

They want it the way it was.

And that’s why Hillary Clinton lost.

http://www.stonekettle.com/2016/11/bug-hunt.html

Even the republicans admit had Trump's competition been Bernie, he would have lost.  Your claim that the aging socialist wouldn't have won is pure bullshit -- just like the bullshit you shoveled telling us how wonderful Hillary was ... she was a lying, thieving ambitious bitch who, like her pervert husband figures she's too good to follow rules.  Worse yet, she was in bed with Wall Street and was absolutely, unquestionably representing Obama's policies-- the establishment.

It wasn't white people who were afraid of others who won the game for Trump -- it was everyone, right and left who figures America is headed down the wrong path, and that the economic game for most of us (Bernie's main theme) is rigged for the 1%.  If you don't understand this, don't pretend to tell us why Trump won and Hillary didn't.

Bernie or Elizabeth Warren -- staying on the theme of economic injustice, would have trashed the Pussy Grabber.  Hell, I'm a lifelong democrat and I didn't believe Hillary.  And while I like his style and character, the truth is Obama has been a disaster -- healthcare, the wars continuing, college debt climbing, and he never protested against NAFTA or any of the trade deals that murdered our middle class.

Obama's biggest problem was being a black president in a racist country -- the republicans wouldn't work with him or compromise from day one.  It wasn't Obama's fault.  It was ours for thinking a black president would be treated fairly in a country that still reeks of white
Christian racism.  
Reality.

Sad, you are such an angry little man! You may want to check with your doctor about your heart and blood pressure meds. I'd hate to lose you good friend, you're such fun

Kindly show us the site and link to your allegation that Republicans believed that had Socialist/Communist Bernie Sanders won the nomination, he would have beat President Elect Donald Trump. Please show us those mainstream polls.

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
It wasn't white people who were afraid of others who won the game for Trump --

Sure it was.

Go to the link and look at the maps.

Yes, please look at the gains Trump earned in the 2016 election as opposed to Mitt Romney in the 2012 election.

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Sal

Sal

Wordslinger wrote: the truth is Obama has been a disaster --

I reject your assessment wholesale.

Despite unprecedented obstruction and disrespect of his office by the GOP, President Obama is a highly successful two-term Democratic president who pulled us from the brink of a second Great Depression, got an additional 20 million people access to health care coverage, brought Bin Laden to justice, helped make sure marriage equality became the law of the land, turned a catastrophically high flood of job losses into a stable, less than 5% unemployment economy, and did all of that and much more with nary a scant whiff of scandal and/or corruption.

I am very proud of President Obama and his accomplishments and would kindly request that you grow the fuck up and step the fuck off.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote: the truth is Obama has been a disaster --

I reject your assessment wholesale.

Despite unprecedented obstruction and disrespect of his office by the GOP, President Obama is a highly successful two-term Democratic president who pulled us from the brink of a second Great Depression, got an additional 20 million people access to health care coverage, brought Bin Laden to justice, helped make sure marriage equality became the law of the land, turned a catastrophically high flood of job losses into a stable, less than 5% unemployment economy, and did all of that and much more with nary a scant whiff of scandal and/or corruption.

I am very proud of President Obama and his accomplishments and would kindly request that you grow the fuck up and step the fuck off.

Sal: Stop whining please. And your attack at me personally was childish. I said I liked Obama and respected him. But his reign was and is a disaster -- because America wasn't ready for a black president. The country is more divided than at any time in my life, what he got done was wonderful, but he was unable to do all that we needed. Seeking compromise, Obamacare is a disaster because it had to be approved by the insurers and the drug and medical equipment companies. We still have millions of factory workers unemployed and a middle class that is rapidly diminishing. It was a combination of racism and economic insecurity that elected Trump.

Sal

Sal

Wordslinger wrote:but he was unable to do all that we needed.

No President can possibly do all that is needed, snowflake.

President Obama has been the President of my and your lifetimes.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I agree, Bernie would have beaten the Pussy Grabber,

It was most certainly the Democratic Party’s fault, but not because they didn’t select Bernie Sanders.

Because if you think for one minute some aging hippy intellectual, a declared socialist, from one of those liberal New England states would have fared any better in those red areas on the map with his talk of free college and windmills, you haven’t been paying attention.  And all those hardcore third party voters who wrote in Bernie or blackened the circle for Jill Stein and Gary Johnson simply gave the Electors that much more margin to throw in with Trump.

Now before you get all pissed off, I’m not blaming Bernie supporters or third party voters for how things turned out and as I have said many times previously, you each have the inalienable right to vote your franchise as your conscience dictates.

And you, like the rest of us now, will now have to live with the consequences of it – though I’ll take this opportunity to remind you that those consequences don’t apply to all equally and some are going to pay horribly more than others.

My point here is this: Third party voters didn’t cost the democrats this election.

No, this race was lost by the political parties.

It was lost by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, both of which looked at that map and saw little squares full of numbers instead of people.

The Republicans ended up with Trump because after 30 years of increasingly strident religion-fueled lunacy, after a full eight years of conspiracy theories and obstructionism and childish histrionics, they were unable to produce anything better. They were hoisted on their own ridiculous petard.

More than anything, Republicans ended up with Trump because they could not compromise, they could not bend their sacred principles.

The Democrats ended up with Trump for the same reason.

Look at that map again.

What do you see?

Walk it back for the last 30 years. The blobs of red and blue move a little bit, growing, shrinking, but the overall values change very little – particularly if you adjust for population growth and migration.

What’s that tell you?

Democrats – liberals and progressives – are just as inflexible and just as lousy at reaching out to the other side as Republicans are.

You and I laugh when the GOP declares with all seriousness that they are reaching out to minorities of color. To women. To the LGBT community. To immigrants. We laugh, and rightly so, because it’s ridiculous.

But if you look at that map, you’ll see Democrats – or third parties – aren’t any better at reaching out to rednecks and evangelicals and all those people who listen to radio stations broadcasting endless sermons of fire and divine wrath, Good Ol’ Country Boys singing about flags and trucks and guns, and endless conspiracy theories of doom and betrayal from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones.

Abortion. Trade. Immigrants. Terrorism. Guns. Jobs. Same sex marriage.

All of these things are aspects of the same division: those who embrace change and those who fear it.

Clinton, as Bernie Sanders supporters are wont to point out, is an establishment candidate. Staid. Pantsuit. Wall Street. More of the same. She should have been able to bridge that divide, to cross over, far far better than some rich billionaire from New York. But for numerous reasons she couldn’t or didn’t – not even to the degree Obama did in 2008 and 2012 (which as it turned out, was just enough). And again, if you think Bernie Sanders, a guy much further left than Clinton, could have done better with the same demographic, you’re just fooling yourself.

Trump shouldn’t have appealed to any of those in the red zones of that map.

I mean, look at that guy. Billionaire. New Yorker real estate developer. Atlantic City and Las Vegas casino owner. Married to a string of super models. Obnoxious. Uncouth. Foulmouthed.

But it was Trump’s bombastic disorganized campaign – and the man himself – which tapped directly into that fear of change at a visceral level.

Make America great again, and to the white people in the red zone, that means churches and deer season and homecoming and fences and Little League games, build a wall and keep America for Americans.

That’s why the pundits and political scientists and the pollsters got it all wrong.

Those people, if you call them up on the phone and ask if they are racists, they’ll say no. Because they don’t think they are. Because to them racism is burning crosses and lynching and they aren’t doing any of that. But they don’t want brown people moving into their neighborhoods, because on TV people with dark skin are thugs and rappers and terrorists and not like them. If you ask if they hate Muslims they’ll say no, but they love Jesus and they hate terrorists and the sons of bitches who blew up the World Trade Center, just like their grandparent hated the Japs and the Krauts. They don’t hate Mexicans, they hate people who take their jobs.  They go to a Trump rally and who do they meet? People just like them, people who look just like they do, who own farms and small businesses, who lost their jobs to Mexico and Bangladesh, who are angry that they have to pay taxes to support welfare cheats and moochers, who go to the same kind of church they do and worship the same God. They want America to be great again like it used to be for their grandparents, that golden magical time of the 1950s with jobs and traditional marriages and white picket fences and they don’t want to hear about how that time wasn’t a paradise for everybody.

They don’t want change.

They want it the way it was.

And that’s why Hillary Clinton lost.

http://www.stonekettle.com/2016/11/bug-hunt.html

Even the republicans admit had Trump's competition been Bernie, he would have lost.  Your claim that the aging socialist wouldn't have won is pure bullshit -- just like the bullshit you shoveled telling us how wonderful Hillary was ... she was a lying, thieving ambitious bitch who, like her pervert husband figures she's too good to follow rules.  Worse yet, she was in bed with Wall Street and was absolutely, unquestionably representing Obama's policies-- the establishment.

It wasn't white people who were afraid of others who won the game for Trump -- it was everyone, right and left who figures America is headed down the wrong path, and that the economic game for most of us (Bernie's main theme) is rigged for the 1%.  If you don't understand this, don't pretend to tell us why Trump won and Hillary didn't.

Bernie or Elizabeth Warren -- staying on the theme of economic injustice, would have trashed the Pussy Grabber.  Hell, I'm a lifelong democrat and I didn't believe Hillary.  And while I like his style and character, the truth is Obama has been a disaster -- healthcare, the wars continuing, college debt climbing, and he never protested against NAFTA or any of the trade deals that murdered our middle class.

Obama's biggest problem was being a black president in a racist country -- the republicans wouldn't work with him or compromise from day one.  It wasn't Obama's fault.  It was ours for thinking a black president would be treated fairly in a country that still reeks of white
Christian racism.  
Reality.

Sad, you are such an angry little man!  You may want to check with your doctor about your heart and blood pressure meds.  I'd hate to lose you good friend, you're such fun

Kindly show us the site and link to your allegation that Republicans believed that had Socialist/Communist Bernie Sanders won the nomination, he would have beat President Elect Donald Trump.  Please show us those mainstream polls.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/13/of-course-bernie-sanders-could-have-beaten-donald-trump/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/presidential-election-donald-trump-would-have-lost-if-bernie-sanders-had-been-the-candidate-a7406346.html

And there are ten pages in google of claims Bernie would have won.
Don't worry about my heart, worry about your sanity Markle. LOL

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:but he was unable to do all that we needed.

No President can possibly do all that is needed, snowflake.

President Obama has been the President of my and your lifetimes.

Guantanamo. Iraq. Afghanistan. Yemen. Libya. Syria. Obama care. Rising drug and medical equipment costs. College debt levels. A disappearing middle class. The growth of ISIS. Military Wastage. An onslaught of police brutality against black Americans. Rapidly deteriorating infrastructure. The opening of new oil fields, the approval of fracking, and finally Obama's advocacy for Hillary -- that alone makes Obama a disaster for me and millions like me. I voted for that lying bitch because Trump was the only alternative.

Try dealing with reality once in awhile little boy.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:but he was unable to do all that we needed.

No President can possibly do all that is needed, snowflake.

President Obama has been the President of my and your lifetimes.


That is your opinion. Certainly not a fact!

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