How is it even possible for Trump to win a general election when 75% of women won't vote for him?

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

I disagree....Obama was elected President to serve ALL the people he has pitted democrats/ republicans against each other more than any other President. It started day 1 and never let up.

RealLindaL wrote:

I have no respect for the man whatsoever.  NONE.  He's an ignorant bigot, an arrogant misogynist, and a pathological liar about things both big and small.  And that's just for starters.

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

I disagree....Obama was elected President to serve ALL the people he has pitted democrats/ republicans against each other more than any other President. It started day 1 and never let up.

knothead wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

I disagree....Obama was elected President to serve ALL the people he has pitted democrats/ republicans against each other more than any other President. It started day 1 and never let up.

I disagree with that statement . . . Day 1 began with Mitch McConnell meeting with GOP party leaders and essentially said their purpose going forward would be to deny Obama any semblance of cooperation and/or coordination with the express intent to make Obama a one term President! Now we can blame Obama for poor judgement or pushing legislation not favored by the right wing radio group I get that . . . . I am proud Obama stood up to this righteous position and lo and behold he got re-elected!

PkrBum wrote:Yet talk radio and fox cable news are a tiny percentage of the networks and multitude of left internet news sources.

Many stories would never see the light of day if not for that tiny percentage.

RealLindaL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Yet talk radio and fox cable news are a tiny percentage of the networks and multitude of left internet news sources.

Many stories would never see the light of day if not for that tiny percentage.

Pkr, there are percentages of air time, and then there are degrees of hate-filled vitriol. I'm sure I don't need to spell it out for you any further.

RealLindaL wrote:
Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Bob wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:
Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Do you ever listen to WEBY 1330 AM?  That's the craziest ultra-right wing blather you've ever heard.  The theme of it is uber right-wing politics comibined equally with bible thumping. 
Better than wrastlin.  lol

PkrBum wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Yet talk radio and fox cable news are a tiny percentage of the networks and multitude of left internet news sources.

Many stories would never see the light of day if not for that tiny percentage.

Pkr, there are percentages of air time, and then there are degrees of hate-filled vitriol.    I'm sure I don't need to spell it out for you any further.

Then perhaps you could spell out viewership and advertising. A big leftist venture was created to challenge the right's talk radio... it failed. On cable there is one fox news and many that Lean left... which is leading in ratings? Why? What gives?

I think there is plenty of air time and wavelength... and every opinion deserves a fair chance to reach an audience.

Many leftists would prefer censorship... or a govt forced distribution of viewership (fairness?). What do you suggest?

knothead wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Yet talk radio and fox cable news are a tiny percentage of the networks and multitude of left internet news sources.

Many stories would never see the light of day if not for that tiny percentage.

Pkr, there are percentages of air time, and then there are degrees of hate-filled vitriol.    I'm sure I don't need to spell it out for you any further.

Then perhaps you could spell out viewership and advertising. A big leftist venture was created to challenge the right's talk radio... it failed. On cable there is one fox news and many that Lean left... which is leading in ratings? Why? What gives?

I think there is plenty of air time and wavelength... and every opinion deserves a fair chance to reach an audience.

Many leftists would prefer censorship... or a govt forced distribution of viewership (fairness?). What do you suggest?

My guess is that there is little audience for moderation in the body politic; hence, there is a huge audience for hate and divisiveness non-stop broadcasts, it's not complicated . . . . . . . been going on since like forever!

polecat wrote:Think being paid to bake a cake violates your rights?
Imagine being forced to have your rapist's baby.  - LOLGOP

RealLindaL wrote:
Don't know about "forever," nor am I a ratings expert or a sociologist, but it certainly seems true of modern U.S. society that what sells is loud, angry contentiousness.  From video games to TV shows (especially the reality variety, but certainly not only that genre) to talk radio to movies, what a significant portion of  the people seem to want -- what succeeds --  is greater and greater escalation of conflict (including the violent kind), a continual raising of the bar on interpersonal battles. (And Trump, from The Apprentice to the presidential campaign, has tapped right into that wellspring and encouraged it, now hasn't he?)

Hell, as I may've told y'all before, I even wrote to HGTV last year and advised them I was losing it for one of my long time favorite shows, "House Hunters," because they couldn't seem to film one episode lately without pitting one half of a couple against the other, to the point where couples were not just arguing but actively disrespecting each other on screen.  Disgustingly obvious that most if not all of that ugliness was manufactured just to generate ratings.  And what does that say about the viewership? Scary.

I can sympathize/empathize with my husband who, when he listens to conservative talk radio and the continual negative characterizations made thereon, the daily ration of anti-liberal, anti-Obama B.S., says he wishes there could be a law against coming on the air and influencing thousands if  not millions of people with often-blatant falsehoods about our president and/or harshly insulting generalizations about other millions of their fellow Americans.  

Look, this is certainly not a trend in my country that I'm proud of nor feel happy and comforted to see occurring.  On the contrary, it's deeply disturbing to me.  But do I want censorship, Pkr?  Of course not, and I question your assumption that "many leftists" would.  (Look instead to some of the religious right folks if you want to see censorship moves in action.)

No, what I would heartily wish for instead is a simple return to civility, to measured discourse, in our nation, but I'm sorely afraid it's a lost cause.   We have unleashed the verbal savagery amongst us, and it is ours.

SheWrites wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:
Don't know about "forever," nor am I a ratings expert or a sociologist, but it certainly seems true of modern U.S. society that what sells is loud, angry contentiousness.  From video games to TV shows (especially the reality variety, but certainly not only that genre) to talk radio to movies, what a significant portion of  the people seem to want -- what succeeds --  is greater and greater escalation of conflict (including the violent kind), a continual raising of the bar on interpersonal battles. (And Trump, from The Apprentice to the presidential campaign, has tapped right into that wellspring and encouraged it, now hasn't he?)

Hell, as I may've told y'all before, I even wrote to HGTV last year and advised them I was losing it for one of my long time favorite shows, "House Hunters," because they couldn't seem to film one episode lately without pitting one half of a couple against the other, to the point where couples were not just arguing but actively disrespecting each other on screen.  Disgustingly obvious that most if not all of that ugliness was manufactured just to generate ratings.  And what does that say about the viewership? Scary.

I can sympathize/empathize with my husband who, when he listens to conservative talk radio and the continual negative characterizations made thereon, the daily ration of anti-liberal, anti-Obama B.S., says he wishes there could be a law against coming on the air and influencing thousands if  not millions of people with often-blatant falsehoods about our president and/or harshly insulting generalizations about other millions of their fellow Americans.  

Look, this is certainly not a trend in my country that I'm proud of nor feel happy and comforted to see occurring.  On the contrary, it's deeply disturbing to me.  But do I want censorship, Pkr?  Of course not, and I question your assumption that "many leftists" would.  (Look instead to some of the religious right folks if you want to see censorship moves in action.)

No, what I would heartily wish for instead is a simple return to civility, to measured discourse, in our nation, but I'm sorely afraid it's a lost cause.   We have unleashed the verbal savagery amongst us, and it is ours.

Keep a hammer in this woman's hand.  She nailed it!

RealLindaL wrote:

Bob wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:
Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Do you ever listen to WEBY 1330 AM?  That's the craziest ultra-right wing blather you've ever heard.  The theme of it is uber right-wing politics comibined equally with bible thumping. 
Better than wrastlin.  lol

Bob, I'm sure you don't recall but you and I have talked about this (and about the "Reverend" Carl Gallups) in the past.  Yes, WEBY is on my list of right wing stations to listen to -- when I can stand it, and lately that means no Gallups because he virtually makes me physically ill -- even though I know it's sad and laughable and all that -- because I realize he has a FOLLOWING, Bob, in the area we live in!!  People who BELIEVE in him!!  I'm an agnostic but I wish there were a just god because I'd love to see Gallups brought down big time for his spitting hatred, bigotry, and PRIDE.  His congregation must be really something to see.  Thank heaven I don't live in Milton or anywhere near there.

Vikingwoman wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Luckily for hillary... nothing negative  about their dear leaders matters to leftists.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/08/hillary-clintons-honest-and-trustworthy-numbers-are-lower-than-ever-it-might-not-matter/

In a brand new Washington Post ABC News national poll, just 37 percent of people believe Hillary Clinton is honest and trustworthy while 57 percent say they don't think she is.

That should be terrible news for Clinton, who still finds herself enmeshed in a primary fight against Bernie Sanders, and for Democrats more broadly who long ago put all their eggs in the Clinton basket. And, it might be in the long run. But, as of today, Clinton's desultory scores on being honest and trustworthy don't seem to be impacting her broader appeal to the electorate in any meaningful way.

I think when the FBI closes the email investigation and the less intelligent see it was all propaganda her numbers will change.

Bob wrote:There are now three major sources of broadcast "news" (whatever the term "news" means nowadays).
One for the older "conservatives/republicans" and one for the older "liberals/democrats" (or "progressives" or whatever). And one for the youth.

Fox News Channel for the one group
PBS/NPR for the other group
Comedy/"news" programs for the youthful

At least this is true for most of the people I know.

Telstar wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Bob...I can't in my wildest imagination tell what's going on inside the mind of Trump.  

That's easy, he's a winner. He says it all the time. He says everybody loves him. Don't you agree?

polecat wrote:
Think being paid to bake a cake violates your rights?
Imagine being forced to have your rapist's baby.
- LOLGOP

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

I disagree....Obama was elected President to serve ALL the people he has pitted democrats/ republicans against each other more than any other President. It started day 1 and never let up.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

knothead wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

VectorMan wrote:I'm voting for whoever runs against the liberal/socialist. They have serious mental disorders.

Remember, there is no such thing as moderate liberal. Just saying....

What you're "just saying" is precisely the kind of insulting crap that alienates people from each other and helps cause the tremendous division among the American people.  

For all the continuous, mind-numbing criticism of Obama for supposedly being "divisive," there is nothing more divisive than the very same people who constantly accuse him of this.  

Just spend a few days seriously listening to the pollution of conservative talk radio, droning on and on and on and on and on with their unending talking points, continually bashing "the left," "liberals," "progressives," whatever --  day after day, month after month, year after year, making of non-conservatives a singular, dehumanized group to be despised, disrespected and hated.  

And y'all say Obama is the divisive factor in this nation?  Are you kidding me???   This is blindness in the nth degree.

Linda, you speak the truth . . . . the right wing machine working to demonize and disrespect the Obama administration NEVER sleeps, 24/7/365 dehumanize and tear down  . . . . . . . so well said . . . . thank you!!

I disagree....Obama was elected President to serve ALL the people he has pitted democrats/ republicans against each other more than any other President. It started day 1 and never let up.

That's pure bullshit Joani and you damned well know it.  It was your idol Mitch McConnell who started the ball rolling with his initial post Obama inaugurational statement:  Our principle goal will be to replace Obama.  

No matter what the issue, even when it was one which originated with the republicans, your hate team shut off Obama at every step.

Your game was to make sure that Obama got nothing worthwhile done.  And you failed miserably.  He's accomplished more than either of the two Bushes.  

While you're digging for a response, tell us please, just what the republicans who control both houses of congress this year have accomplished, other than the 9,547th bill to do away with Obamacare.  LOL