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Elizabeth Warren says Trump is right about 1 thing

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/22/investing/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-wall-street/index.html

Trump thinks hedge-funds on Wall Street should pay more taxes than they currently do, and Elizabeth Warren concurs.

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2seaoat



So does HIllary and Bernie......but I would like to see them get a transaction tax passed in Congress. Right now.....not a snowball's chance in hell.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:So does HIllary and Bernie......but I would like to see them get a transaction tax passed in Congress.  Right now.....not a snowball's chance in hell.

That is not what is being discussed.

Hedgefund managers do have a loophole and I too would like to see that closed. However, the pittance that would add to our revenues would do nothing.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

How to Repeal the Tax Loophole That Allows Companies to Hide Their Profits in Offshore Accounts

If we want to address the inequality crisis, we must prevent corporations from sitting on hoards of untaxed cash.

By David Cay Johnston AUGUST 4, 2015

"More than a third of a century after Ronald Reagan led America down a costly and unnecessary path into extreme income and wealth inequality, the opportunity to restore broad prosperity is rising before us. This is a moment not for despair, but resolve—and hard work.

Income inequality has become so outrageous that even Republicans vying for their party’s presidential nomination are talking about it, though not their party’s role in creating it or any workable solutions. On television the talking heads wring their hands, saying, “If only we could afford the costs of digging ourselves out of the economic hell most Americans have been shoved into.”

Actually, America has an immense pool of money that can be put to work closing the nation’s extreme inequality gap. Doing so will also improve our health, longevity, level of education, and knowledge.

Before getting to that, though, let’s take a quick look at the latest data.

In June, for the first time, the Internal Revenue Service released data on not just the top 1 percent, but also the top one-thousandth of 1 percent. The report excludes dependent children who file their own tax returns because they have a trust fund or work.

Even for those who know that the average income reported by nine out of 10 households has fallen back to the level it stood at in 1966, this is a shocking report.

My analysis shows that from 2003 through 2012, the bottom 90 percent of Americans saw their incomes decline by 6 percent, or about $200 a month.

Every penny of increased income went to the top 10 percent, but even there it was heavily skewed to the very few at the very top. Slightly more than half of all the increased income in the country went to the 1.36 million taxpayers who make up the top 1 percent. The most shocking detail: Just one in 1,000 of those top taxpayers collected 8 percent of all the increased income in the entire nation.

Think about that. America has 136 million primary taxpayer households. Over those ten years just 1,361 households raked in 8 percent of all the increased income in America.

Those one in 100,000 households averaged $161 million each in 2012. They paid 17.6 percent of their money in federal income taxes, about the same share as a single worker making just $80,000.

The awful truth is that the great industrial engine that once created rising prosperity for the vast majority has been converted into a mining operation. Instead of creating new wealth by making ever more useful widgets and services ever more efficiently, today’s economic titans mine the pockets of the many.

Public policy—laws passed by Congress, regulatory agency rules, and lax oversight of business—makes this mining economy possible.

We see this in the private-equity, high-speed trading, and hedge-fund operators who combine scads of borrowed money, favorable accounting rules, and offshore companies that block taxes to report huge profits. They rarely create new enterprises or improve existing ones. Instead they strip companies of their assets and froth the stock exchanges so they can collect profitable bubbles.


The biggest multinational corporations don’t even pay corporate income taxes. Rather they profit off them, something I exposed 13 years ago and that a three-volume study by the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation later confirmed.

What makes this possible are a few seemingly innocuous words slipped into the 1986 Tax Reform Act that hardly anyone noticed at the time. Those words allow multinational corporations to evade the caps on how much cash and near-cash domestic companies can hold by simply moving their profits offshore.

Since 1909 Congress has limited cash hoarding because it damages the economy. Just as the economy would collapse if everyone cashed their paychecks and stuffed greenbacks in their mattresses, so too is economic growth damaged when corporations hoard cash instead of reinvesting.

But under the 1986 law American companies pay royalties, rents, and fees to their offshore subsidiaries, using accounting alchemy to convert profits into expenses. As long as those profits are held in so-called deferral accounts with an offshore mailing address, no taxes are due.

You would get the same deal if Congress let you take a deduction for every dollar in your right pocket that you moved to your left pocket and kept there.

The next part, though, is even more perverse: the multinationals buy the Treasury bonds that the federal government sells because it didn’t collect those corporate taxes right away. The government then pays these multinationals interest on their deferred taxes.

Do this for long enough and the magic of compound interest will result in more money than the value of the taxes owed, which are eroded by inflation. In effect Uncle Sam loans these companies their taxes at 0 percent interest and then pays them interest on the loan. If you could get a bank to do that for you when you buy a house, after three decades with no payments you would have enough money to pay the bank the deferred purchase price and enjoy three to four times the house’s price in cash.

Of course, no banker is dumb enough to give you that deal. But Congress gives it to multinationals like Apple and GE and to billionaires like Warren Buffett every day. So when their shareholder reports indicate that they paid a tiny percentage of their profits in taxes, they really made a profit and paid Uncle Sam a small fee on their profits from deferring payment.

Here’s the good news buried in that outrage: These huge corporate deferral accounts can be tapped to pay for investments that will move us away from extreme inequality, generate millions of new jobs, and create future wealth through basic research and improved infrastructure.

The 2004 American Jobs Creation Act gave multinationals an 85 percent discount on offshore profits brought home. When the proposal was being discussed, proponents said it would create 660,000 jobs. But as soon as the law took effect its biggest beneficiary, Pfizer, started firing 40,000 workers. Pfizer escaped about $10 billion in taxes. Like some other companies, Pfizer used the tax savings to buy back its own stock, which increased the value of stock options held by executives.

Instead of letting companies bring this offshore money home after paying little or no tax, as Congress did in 2004, those deferrals can be ended in a way that will stimulate the economy.

This is nothing new. Since the first corporate income tax was enacted in 1909, Congress has imposed a penalty tax on corporations that hoard cash. The current penalty for domestic firms found to be hoarding cash is 20 percent on top of the 35 percent corporate tax rate. Tens of thousands of small businesses have paid this in the past century, but no large publicly traded companies have done so.

The same penalty used to apply to profits held offshore, but three decades ago Congress gave multinationals a way to defer taxes by converting profits into royalties paid to corporate affiliates. Section 531 waives the excess earnings for “a passive foreign investment company.”

Repealing the exemption for profits moved offshore would force companies to close these deferral accounts and repatriate the funds. That action cannot, as corporate lobbyists tell Congress, damage investment for two reasons. First, new laws cannot affect past behavior, only future conduct. Second, Congress can let corporations avoid the penalty tax provided the repatriated profits are invested in new plants, equipment, and research. Even better, it could also waive the penalty on repatriated funds paid broadly as bonuses to nonexecutive employees. That would generate income and payroll taxes and infuse the economy with spending money, which in turn would generate more economic activity.

Congress can also tailor the rules to make sure the money is not wasted through stock buybacks—which buoy the holdings of senior executives, who get about two-thirds of their compensation from stock and stock options—or from dividends that will flow to a minority of Americans.

In 2012 American corporations worldwide held $14.6 trillion in cash and other liquid assets, IRS data show. That cushion was so plush that it equaled the entire output of the US economy from January through Thanksgiving that year. It also totaled more than four years of federal spending.

Take away the liquid assets held by banks and other financial institutions and the figure is still bloated: almost $6.7 trillion of idle cash. That’s more than $21,200 for every man, woman, and child in America. There is no possible economic or business argument for holding that much cash idle..."

Guest


Guest

Money/profit that is produced/manufactured by overseas operations... sold to foreign markets... is none of our business... literally. If you want to keep business here then quit taxing and regulating them out of here... period. It's that simple.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Money/profit that is produced/manufactured by overseas operations... sold to foreign markets... is none of our business... literally. If you want to keep business here then quit taxing and regulating them out of here... period. It's that simple.

No, it's anything but simple. But leave it to you to have a one-line "answer" to a complex question.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/tax-reform/report/2014/01/09/81681/offshore-corporate-profits-the-only-thing-trapped-is-tax-revenue/

"...The only thing trapped offshore is federal revenue


Unrepatriated profits are already being put to use in the American economy, and “bringing them home” for tax purposes will not affect investment and growth. But that does not mean the corporate tax code is working the way it should. The average effective tax rate for America’s largest, most profitable corporations now stands at 12.6 percent, lower than what many middle-class families pay. What’s more, some huge multinationals have gone years without paying any tax at all. In fact, General Electric and Apache have both paid a negative average tax rate over the past five years, while holding billions of dollars in unrepatriated earnings. And governments all over the world are struggling to shore up their corporate tax bases as multinationals abuse international tax rules to shift profits into tax-haven jurisdictions.

It is important to understand that U.S. corporations owe tax on their profits wherever those profits originate. Under deferral, multinationals can put off paying that tax for years at a time, but these profits are not exempt from corporate taxation. It is also important to remember that deferral is not a normal part of the corporate tax; it is an enormous tax break that multinationals are able to take advantage of.

The Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the U.S. Treasury will lose approximately $50 billion a year because of the deferral of corporate taxes on foreign profit. The projected cost from 2013 to 2017 is more than $265 billion. To put that in perspective, $265 billion is more than three times the full cost of President Barack Obama’s early childhood investment proposal over 10 years. Furthermore, the one-year cost—$50 billion—is equal to the entire cost of the job-creation initiatives in the president’s “grand bargain” for jobs.

This tax break is extremely valuable to the large multinational corporations that are able to take advantage of it, and they have responded by reporting more and more income on the books of their foreign subsidiaries. Some of this foreign income comes from real offshore activity, but a growing portion comes from complicated, arguably abusive, tax-avoidance schemes.

This trend has hastened as firms have moved more income and operations abroad following the 2004 repatriation holiday. In 2004, Congress created a one-year repatriation tax holiday that lowered the rate that America’s largest corporations would have to pay to return income from controlled foreign subsidiaries. The change in law made the effective tax rate on repatriated funds 5.25 percent for corporations in the highest tax bracket, down from the 35 percent statutory rate.

Proponents sold the tax giveaway as a means to increase employment and investment in the U.S. economy, but economic researchers have found that the holiday had no effect on employment or investment. In the end, corporations that repatriated profits just used that money for dividends and other payouts to investors. This is not surprising given that, as explained above, repatriation of profits that are offshore for tax purposes should not be expected to spur economic growth.

What’s worse, not only did the repatriation holiday fail to spur investment and create new jobs, but it also introduced an even greater incentive for firms to move profits overseas. The holiday showed multinationals that profits can be brought back under very low tax rates if corporations wait and advocate for a second tax holiday. Firms that repatriated foreign profits during the 2004 repatriation holiday increased their average annual overseas profits from $60 billion to $122 billion between 2003 and 2007, according to tax experts Lee Sheppard and Martin Sullivan. The 2004 repatriation tax holiday failed to stimulate the economy, cost the federal government substantial revenue at the time, and contributed to the rising revenue cost of deferral. The Joint Committee on Taxation found that instituting a second “one-time-only” repatriation tax holiday would cost the U.S. government $79 billion over 10 years..."

Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:Money/profit that is produced/manufactured by overseas operations... sold to foreign markets... is none of our business... literally. If you want to keep business here then quit taxing and regulating them out of here... period. It's that simple.

Yes, it really is that simple.

Progressives cannot or refuse to explain WHO pays corporate taxes.

Progressives cannot or refuse to explain WHY a corporation should pay taxes in the country where the profits are earned, and then pay punitive TAXES again if they bring that money into this country.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


You're lying, Markle. Corporations pay taxes in foreign countries, and those taxes are an offset to taxes they pay in the US. There is no double taxation.

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