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Senator Elizabeth Warren Has An Idea, Y'all ...

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Sal

Sal

Can we just dispense with the Clintons and Bushs nonsense, and move this lady straight into the Oval Office posthaste?

The poor pay more.

According to a report put out this week by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) of the U.S. Postal Service, about 68 million Americans -- more than a quarter of all households -- have no checking or savings account and are underserved by the banking system. Collectively, these households spent about $89 billion in 2012 on interest and fees for non-bank financial services like payday loans and check cashing, which works out to an average of $2,412 per household. That means the average underserved household spends roughly 10 percent of its annual income on interest and fees -- about the same amount they spend on food.

Think about that: about 10 percent of a family's income just to manage getting checks cashed, bills paid, and, sometimes, a short-term loan to tide them over. That's more than a full month's income just to try to navigate the basics.

The poor pay more, and that's one of the reasons people get trapped at the bottom of the economic ladder.

But it doesn't have to be this way. In the same remarkable report this week, the OIG explored the possibility of the USPS offering basic banking services -- bill paying, check cashing, small loans -- to its customers. With post offices and postal workers already on the ground, USPS could partner with banks to make a critical difference for millions of Americans who don't have basic banking services because there are almost no banks or bank branches in their neighborhoods.

Families rely on financial services more than ever, but those who need them most -- who struggle to make ends meet -- too often must contend with sky-high interest rates and tricks and traps buried in the fine print of their loan products.

This is not a new problem, and policymakers in Washington have long sounded the alarm. Michael Barr -- an assistant secretary of the Treasury under President Obama and law professor at University of Michigan -- has pushed on this issue for years. As Chair of the FDIC, Sheila Bair put in place a Committee on Economic Inclusion to generate ideas for expanding access to lower-cost banking services. (I had the honor of serving as a committee member.) And we've taken some important steps forward. The new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), for example, is a cop on the beat that is putting in place commonsense rules to protect consumers and ensure that payday lenders are held accountable when they break the law.

There has been momentum in the right direction, but there is so much more work to do to make sure that families have access to affordable and fair financial services.

That is why the OIG report is so interesting. If the Postal Service offered basic banking services -- nothing fancy, just basic bill paying, check cashing and small dollar loans -- then it could provide affordable financial services for underserved families, and, at the same time, shore up its own financial footing. (The postal services in many other countries, it turns out, have taken steps in this direction and seen their earnings increase dramatically.) The report has provoked a great deal of discussion, and it is worth reading David Dayen's article about it at the New Republic -- "The Post Office Should Just Become a Bank: How Obama can save USPS and ding check-cashing joints."

The Postal Service is huge -- employing more than a half million people -- and its history is long and complicated. Any change will take time. But this is an issue I am going to spend a lot of time working on -- and I hope my colleagues join me. We need innovative ways to create pathways for struggling families to build economic security, and this is an idea that falls in that category.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/coming-to-a-post-office-n_b_4709485.html

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Guest

The postal service can't even deliver the mail so why add to the list of things of which they can be incompetent?

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If these people wanted a banking account they would have one.

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Rocket psychiatry...

another day

another diagnosis

another govt pill

to fix the social ills.

come one come all

shed foolish pride

hold out your hand

govt helps you stand.

Sal

Sal

Glibertarians support predatory lending practices ...

... this comes as no surprise.

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Predatory is the leftist subversion of human nature... fostering dependence and exploiting weakness for the State.

Good strategy... until you can't deliver.

Sal

Sal

I understand your program - America's problem is there aren't enough hungry children.

It's amazing you haven't been more successful with that.

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Guess what people did to keep from starving to death before marx?

Bad ideas fail... eventually... certainly. You can't fix that.

Markle

Markle

Socialist Senator Elizabeth Warren proposing a National Bank, run by the POSTAL SERVICE. They've done so well all these years.

Another loony bin proposal by the loony's.

dumpcare



These people simply do not want a bank account so no one can get to it when they default on their bills and some lack of trust, but they could have one if they wanted.

2seaoat



Socialist Senator Elizabeth Warren proposing a National Bank, run by the POSTAL SERVICE. They've done so well all these years.

Another loony bin proposal by the loony's.


However, some of you folks raise no complaint about subsidizing banks to big to fail to the tune of 85 billion a year by providing federal loan guranantees, and when Wall Street does this it is not socialism, but free market capitalism.

I believe in government efficiency and the government working for the common welfare of its citizens. Ben Franklin started this great institution we call the post office, and I think this idea has a huge upside. It utilizes current brick and mortar footprints, and it gives the stability to people below the poverty level to find reliable and fair rates which will allow the postal service to show a profit, and will kill the predatory lending practices for all but the most desperate American citizens. If Mr. Markle and others think it is socialism, then simply allow 10 free enterprise corporations bid to put bank operations in leased space at American post offices. Collect rents and allow the private companies to compete against the predatory lenders, with guidelines for each leasee as to mandated dynamic loan rates, just like government controls the same with title and auto insurance in America.

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This is the stupidest idea I ever heard.

grow a part of the gov that is bankrupt to help people get something for free because they wont go get something for free aka checking account.  Rolling Eyes 

im literally amazed at the amount of stupidity in this. shocked even.

2seaoat



It is hardly stupid to better utilize postal assets and turn a profit. Instead of 33% monthly interest rate on a payday loan to an elderly couple, the postal service with lending limits of perhaps 10k could offer 8-14% rates or roughly half of what the payday loan sharks are getting. These operations are really profitable, but in order to guarantee the rates staying low, congress can pass a law which assigns tax refunds to the postal service to justify lower loan rates. I am excited about this concept, and I do not care if it is done by private contractors, or postal service employees.......the economy of scale and cost savings are an incredible revenue enhancer without raising postal rates.

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2seaoat wrote:It is hardly stupid to better utilize postal assets and turn a profit.  Instead of 33% monthly interest rate on a payday loan to an elderly couple, the postal service with lending limits of perhaps 10k could offer 8-14% rates or roughly half of what the payday loan sharks are getting.  These operations are really profitable, but in order to guarantee the rates staying low, congress can pass a law which assigns tax refunds to the postal service to justify lower loan rates.  I am excited about this concept, and I do not care if it is done by private contractors, or postal service employees.......the economy of scale and cost savings are an incredible revenue enhancer without raising postal rates.  

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lol... apologists for open socialists now. I wonder how this will turn out?

Sal

Sal

I'm not an apologist. 


I'm a Socialist. 


Any right thinking American is. 


Fuck you. 

Guest


Guest

Are we aiming for china or russia? That middle european crap is a cop out. Where do you see o enlightened one.

2seaoat



lol... apologists for open socialists now. I wonder how this will turn out?

Like America.....the greatest country to ever rule under the principles of liberty, freedom, and equality under the law. Ben Franklin was a socialist when he formed the postal service and Ronald Reagan was a socialist when he protected Social Security.........your concepts are simply fractured and utterly circular, and you challenge America as to how it will turn out.......like the people want!

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:It is hardly stupid to better utilize postal assets and turn a profit.  Instead of 33% monthly interest rate on a payday loan to an elderly couple, the postal service with lending limits of perhaps 10k could offer 8-14% rates or roughly half of what the payday loan sharks are getting.  These operations are really profitable, but in order to guarantee the rates staying low, congress can pass a law which assigns tax refunds to the postal service to justify lower loan rates.  I am excited about this concept, and I do not care if it is done by private contractors, or postal service employees.......the economy of scale and cost savings are an incredible revenue enhancer without raising postal rates.  

So then the tax payers would subsidize all the bad loans. BRILLIANT!

Even you can't believe this has any merit. You only wish to stir the pot. Keep up the good work!

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:lol... apologists for open socialists now. I wonder how this will turn out?

Like America.....the greatest country to ever rule under the principles of liberty, freedom, and equality under the law.  Ben Franklin was a socialist when he formed the postal service and Ronald Reagan was a socialist when he protected Social Security.........your concepts are simply fractured and utterly circular, and you challenge America as to how it will turn out.......like the people want!

Obviously you are not aware that the postal service is one of the very few services the U. S. Constitution requires of the Federal Government.

Try something new, read the U.S. Constitution.

2seaoat



So then the tax payers would subsidize all the bad loans. BRILLIANT!

Even you can't believe this has any merit. You only wish to stir the pot. Keep up the good work!


Wrong. If they were all bad loans.....payday loan places would not be filling every corner and store in America. There are huge profits in title loans. I know someone who is making a fortune, and they have gps on the cars,and take them back....get paid.....take them back......get paid. All I am suggesting is an end to usery and better utilization of post office properties with ancillary bank services. You may not like the lady, but as a fiscal conservative republican I want a well ran postal service without government subsidy.....all these crank theorist who think everything is a zero sum game never had to run a business, let alone a government. We do not need more crazy republicans.....we need main street republicans looking out for Americans.....the senator from Ma has a damn good idea.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:So then the tax payers would subsidize all the bad loans. BRILLIANT!

Even you can't believe this has any merit. You only wish to stir the pot. Keep up the good work!


Wrong.  If they were all bad loans.....payday loan places would not be filling every corner and store in America.  There are huge profits in title loans.  I know someone who is making a fortune, and they have gps on the cars,and take them back....get paid.....take them back......get paid.  All I am suggesting is an end to usery and better utilization of post office properties with ancillary bank services.  You may not like the lady, but as a fiscal conservative republican I want a well ran postal service without government subsidy.....all these crank theorist who think everything is a zero sum game never had to run a business, let alone a government.  We do not need more crazy republicans.....we need main street republicans looking out for Americans.....the senator from Ma has a damn good idea.

So you think it is a brilliant idea, to give a broken, dying system, the Postal Service, ANOTHER way to LOSE MONEY! I have to give it to you, you're a hoot.

All for pay day loans? Loans which carry incredible risk along with title loans which are just as risky. The tax payer is going to under write those losses in addition to the losses from the shrinking Postal Service.

She is a well know Socialist with a Socialist idea you love. Have the GOVERNMENT transfer more money from tax payers to tax receivers.

Just what President Barack Hussein Obama promised.

2seaoat



Why is cooperation and utilization of American assets for Americans considered socialism. I call it good old American common sense. I do not consider the post office a failure, rather I believe it is a huge success. I have given a christmas gift to my postal carrier since I have been an adult. I will talk with him or her briefly everyday, and the man or woman carrying that mail is not the evil thing folks like you try to portray.....I had friends parents who were letter carriers and they supported their family and were good people. Why is it better to gut the postal service with these fantasy pension contributions with the intent of breaking the same up to give sweetheart deals to special interests and leave rural america without service.

I do not care what label you put on Elizabeth Warren.....native American, or Scotch Irish.........capitalist or socialist, what I care about are the merits of her proposal and how it helps the American middle class. Ancillary services including banking products originating out of postal locations provides greater services to the American public at less cost, and enhances the postal service bottom line. You are talking abstractions and fantasy, and for the rest of us who use the postal service, we want efficiency and independence from taxpayer subsidy, or high stamp prices.

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Guest

Sal wrote:I'm not an apologist. 


I'm a Socialist. 


Any right thinking American is. 


Fuck you. 

Americans are NOT socialist. Get the fuck out of our country!

and

Fuck you! and this stupid idea crack head.

2seaoat



Americans are NOT socialist. Get the fuck out of our country!


Where is your integrity and doctrinal consistency? You insist the President Obama is a socialist, and the American people almost gave him two landslide proportion elections, and now you say the majority of folks who elected President Obama need to leave OUR country.......sorry the nutball fringe lost, and OUR country elected your socialist president......so which way do want your eggs?.......my guess.......scrambled.

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