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2seaoat wrote:What a joke with the talking heads trying to create the reality of what just happened. They are making it sound like that Trump got skewered by the punk and the worm.....were they watching the same debate. Trump showed strength and was dismissive of the two boyz. Kasich clearly is the best man on that stage and not one talking head is talking about Kasich.
Maybe they aren't talking about Kasich because he's a lost cause. Sorry, but I'm afraid he doesn't stand a chance -- JMHO.
Look, I watched the debate but not the talking heads. Based on Sea's comments, though, I'm thinking maybe they actually did see the same debate I did. And maybe it's because I don't like any of the contenders but least of all Trump -- the super-inflated, pathologically lying narcissist -- that I have to respectfully disagree with you guys about Trump's having won this debate. Personally I don't know if anyone won, but if I had to pick somebody it sure wouldn't be Trump. As usual he didn't say ANYTHING of substance, had NO coherent details whatsoever for his grandiose plans -- only that everything will be beautiful (right). And he only continued to show his total and complete ignorance of how things really work.
Just as a for-instance, ppaca is absolutely right; to say as Trump did that he's going to eliminate the individual mandate while still requiring coverage of pre-existing conditions, and claiming that the health insurance companies are making tons of money under Obamacare, is simply ludicrous. The man doesn't know beans about what he's talking about on almost ANY issue.
And what do you say about someone who is told outright by the powers that be in Mexico that there's no way in heck they're ever going to pay for his "f-ing" wall, and he just keeps saying they'll pay for it anyway?? Because he says so, they're going to back down?? This man is DELUSIONAL, people! How in the world can you say he won the debate? I just do not get it.
That mystifies me as much as the love affair this nation apparently has for the man -- at least the primary voters so far, though I take some comfort in his national highly unfavorable ratings as delineated by the Telemundo person, if those stats are correct. I sure hope they are.
Cruz totally turned me off but then he always does. He's every bit as dangerous as Trump, just in a different way and for different reasons. He impresses me as a shoot-from-the-hip type, big time, with iron clad, small-minded opinions and an imagined mandate from his lord. I wonder if he'd ever even listen to his WH advisors about anything whatsoever. I doubt it, because he already knows it all. Very perilous person to have his hand on the red phone (or whatever the nuclear trigger is these days)!!
And believe me, there's no love lost between this house and Rubio, either, and we agree that he's likely easily bought by special interests, but if the talking heads gave him at least a few points tonight, I have to agree. I thought he did better than previously and really stood up to Trump with what were mostly valid comebacks to Trump's attacks, or so it seemed to me.
Still in all, I doubt Trump's followers will be dissuaded in the least. They're blinded by the light of his money and power and stardom, somehow thinking, even if subconsciously, that he can make everybody wealthy (this is my pet theory), plus he gives them a vehicle by which to safely and even nastily express their own anger, hatred, fear and bigotry. The phenomenon is positively terrifying.
Look, this is a person who never, ever admits he's wrong or that he ever spoke an untruth on any substantive issue or ever needs forgiveness on anything. How in the world can we put our trust in a person with not a shred of humility, but a universe's share of braggadocio??
And though I'm admittedly not the best one to judge, it seems to me Trump's supposed Christian faith is totally and completely phony, craftily designed to woo the evangelicals, period end of story. The scary thing is, from what I've read, they don't believe his faith is real either, but they figure he can win and that's the more important thing.
The country is going topsy-turvy nutso.
And now I'm finally off to bed and out of your hair. Wonder if anyone agrees with me on any of the above, but if not, that's OK, too.
Heaven (or The Force, or somebody or something, PLEASE!!) help us all.
