Sheriff Morgan

Good article. Bob you may want to read the whole article, sort of goes along with the world leader thing.

http://conjuringjusticeblog.com/2016/01/20/former-chief-deputy-under-morgan-speaks-out/

I have had reason to interact with the Sheriff over issues on PB regarding their handling of traffic exiting Casino Beach parking lot. The SO were forcing people to turn right on Ft. Pickens Rd even though they lived west on Ft. Pickens Rd. I worked with Buck Lee on the same issue. The Sheriff was receptive but on Blue Angel day nothing changed . . . . . . i turned left anyway! Never voted for him never will . . . . . . . . he dresses like General Noriega!

Damn,  ppaca,  that is really some hard hitting stuff.

By the way,  last year I came up on a yard sale in Cordova Park.
I walked up to the door and the homeowner was standing inside selling his stuff.
I had to do a double take because he looked familiar,  but after a second glance I recognized him as Sheriff Morgan.

I bought his two pink flamingos.  He said he and his wife named them "Fred and Ethel".
They are now among my most prized objects in my courtyard.  As you walk onto the patio of the courtyard,  they're on one side and the pissing boy statute is on the other.  lol

This is just a wild guess,  but somehow I really don't think Ronnie Mac has any pink flamingos in his yard.  He aint the type.  lol

Just in the interest of full disclosure,  Morgan demoted Chavers in 2010.

http://ricksblog.biz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Chavers_ltr.pdf

Morgan spoke at the funeral of a good friend of ours. Our friend was the Lieutenant in charge of the beach. Morgan spoke at the funeral and again at the burial. I was very impressed...he spoke from the heart and it was obvious he knew Lt. Rod Eddins personally as well as professionally.

I will add, I believe the beach was well patrolled with Rod supervising.

I always supported him on the PNJ when people took cheap shots. I think he has done a pretty good job. I have never met him, although I was accused of being one of his lackeys. He has made mistakes, but he has always seemed honest and hardworking to me. I could point to many mistakes, but overall he has been going in the right direction.

I believe he's much better than McNesby ever was. If that Chief, now Captain was in my command, I'd fire him...period. I know there are a few McNesby supporters still on the force, but that boat has sailed...and the county is better for it. I saw him at jury duty...he looked tired...like he'd been putting in long hours. I don't care what he wears...just makes no difference to me.

Escambia County Sheriff-elect David Morgan has asked veteran deputy Lt. Bill Chavers to be his chief deputy.
Chavers, 57, said he will accept the position when Morgan, who takes office Jan. 6, formally offers him the job.
“This is a career high for me,” Chavers said. “It’s everything that I have ever wanted. For me, this is the star on the tree.”
Chavers, who has been a patrol officer, detective and motorcycle officer, has been a law enforcement officer since 1974 when he joined the Pensacola Police Department. He became a deputy in 1982.
“He has the confidence of the rank and file,” Morgan said. “They know he is an individual that can be depended on.”
Larry Smith was the last chief deputy at the Sheriff’s Office. He retired earlier this year.



then this follows in post #8...

"I worked with Chavers for many years. Many don't like him. He has always been a good officer. He has been in a slump for the last eight years and for good reason. He got a lot of grief from the McNesby administration. Some of it was deserved but most was just messing with him."

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/showthread.php?131099-Chavers-named-Chief-Deputy-11-24-08

It's just a guess.  But it's starting to sound like this to me.
After Morgan carried Chavers over from the McNesby run Sheriff's Office and named Chavers his Chief Deputy,  a personality conflict started brewing between the two.  And that resulted in Morgan demoting Chavers.  And that was so embarrassing for Chavers that he really developed a serious grudge against Morgan. 
And now Chavers is using the election to get his revenge on Morgan.

What say you?

Bob wrote:It's just a guess.  But it's starting to sound like this to me.
After Morgan carried Chavers over from the McNesby run Sheriff's Office and named Chavers his Chief Deputy,  a personality conflict started brewing between the two.  And that resulted in Morgan demoting Chavers.  And that was so embarrassing for Chavers that he really developed a serious grudge against Morgan. 
And now Chavers is using the election to get his revenge on Morgan.

What say you?

He ran against Morgan and lost. And, if I remember correctly, he called on me at the time...was going door to door with his young son. Yeah...I think you're right, Bob...a personality conflict...or the failure of a subordinate to follow instructions...but to actively write against your boss in a blog...and some of the things he said...sour grapes...and grounds for dismissal.

No, it is not grounds for dismissal. It is your section 7 rights to speak out against your employer and conditions at work. It is under the Fair Labor Standards Act and enforced by the National Labor Relations Board.It is his right.

Vikingwoman wrote:No, it is not grounds for dismissal. It is your section 7 rights to speak out against your employer and conditions at work. It is under the Fair Labor Standards Act and enforced by the National Labor Relations Board.It is his right.

It may or may not be. It definitely would NOT apply in the private sector, but there is leeway for government employees...he could sue, but his First Amendment rights would be weighed against the employer's right to continue working without disruption. He's on a slippery slope.

It absolutely applies in the private sector.Go take a gander at the NLRB'S website of all the private sector employers charged w/ section 7 violations. From McDonalds to Walmart to Krispy Kreme donuts. Many people are not familiar w/ this law and their rights under it but the NLRB is a powerful federal agency that enforces that right. You can even go on Facebook and criticize your employer and terms and conditions at work and be fully protected.If they fire you the NLRB makes them reinstate you w/ back pay and all benefits. They are no joke and totally different from the state labor board who don't do much of anything.

Vikingwoman wrote:It absolutely applies in the private sector.Go take a gander at the NLRB'S website of all the private sector employers charged w/ section 7 violations. From McDonalds to Walmart to Krispy Kreme donuts. Many people are not familiar w/ this law and their rights under it but the NLRB is a powerful federal agency that enforces that right. You can even go on Facebook and criticize your employer and terms and conditions at work and be fully protected.If they fire you the NLRB makes them reinstate you w/ back pay and all benefits. They are no joke and totally different from the state labor board who don't do much of anything.

http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1163&context=dltr

There are limits.

I agree there are limits but that was not the scope of your statements. You said it wouldn't apply to private sector employees and I just corrected your assertions. Am I wrong?

Vikingwoman wrote:I agree there are limits but that was not the scope of your statements. You said it wouldn't apply to private sector employees and I just corrected your assertions. Am I wrong?

In the public sector there are fewer restrictions than in the private sector. A private sector employee would have to show that an employer actually broke one of a set of laws...as in restricting the employee's access to a union. A public sector employee has rights both as an employee and as a citizen...thus more leeway in speaking out...but no employee, public or private, can knowingly lie or otherwise impugn the integrity of the employer without the facts to back up said accusations in a court of law.

I don't think I ever implied an employee can slander an employer and the NLRB will protect him. He can criticize an employer and give his opinion on terms and conditions of employment, policies etc and be protected,however. No one is immune civilly from making false and slanderous statements.

The real reason that Chavers lost his job was that he was using his position as Chief Deputy to make advantageous transfers and assignments for his wife and her daughter who also worked at ECSO. He was asked to discontinue the practice and would not do so.

As to job rights, the Chief Deputy position at a Sheriff's office comes under the definitions and rules regarding Executive Exempt employees which are significantly different than cover other employees, either private or public. He was removed from that position but remained a mid-level supervisor until that was no longer tenable either.

Thank you, grandpa.

grandpa wrote:The real reason that Chavers lost his job was that he was using his position as Chief Deputy to make advantageous transfers and assignments for his wife and her daughter who also worked at ECSO. He was asked to discontinue the practice and would not do so.

As to job rights, the Chief Deputy position at a Sheriff's office comes under the definitions and rules regarding Executive Exempt employees which are significantly different than cover other employees, either private or public. He was removed from that position but remained a mid-level supervisor until that was no longer tenable either.

It doesn't matter what definitions and rules he comes under he is still covered under federal section 7 law.