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Ireland Points the Way Toward Common Sense Drug Abuse Policy

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Sal

Sal

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who is set to announce the radical move in a speech to the London School of Economics on Monday, told The Irish Times that medically supervised injection rooms "will happen next year." His address he will also outline plans to decriminalise the possession of small amounts of drugs, including heroin, cocaine and cannabis, for personal use, as part of a "radical cultural shift" in the approach to drug addiction. "I am firmly of the view that there needs to be a cultural shift in how we regard substance misuse if we are to break this cycle and make a serious attempt to tackle drug and alcohol addiction," said Mr Ó Ríordáin. He added that compassion had to be brought to the issue, and that as far as possible drug addiction should be removed from the criminal justice system.

The Minister’s address comes in the wake of leaked report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime indicating it will call for the decriminalisation of consumption of drugs on public health and human rights grounds. Mr Ó Ríordáin says the heads of a new Misuse of Drugs Bill are being drawn up which will “unblock” the legislative obstacles to opening injection rooms.

Mr Ó Ríordáin said he wanted to remove the "stigma" from drug addiction and the key to this will be preventing, as much as possible, those caught up in addiction ending up with criminal convictions. He added that the "shame" that dominates the discourse around drug use "disrupts the capacity of families and individuals" to seek help…This will be a wider discussion under the next government but once people get their head around the argument, about what decriminalisation actually means, that policy won't be about the drug but about the individual. Then regardless of the drug the individual needs an intervention and society will be saying, 'the substance is illegal, but you are not a criminal for taking it'."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/injection-rooms-for-addicts-to-open-next-year-in-drug-law-change-says-minister-1.2413509

Guest


Guest

An entire nation of once proud badasses has turned into a cesspool of drug usage making the country totally irrelevant....

Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who is set to announce the radical move in a speech to the London School of Economics on Monday, told The Irish Times that medically supervised injection rooms "will happen next year." His address he will also outline plans to decriminalise the possession of small amounts of drugs, including heroin, cocaine and cannabis, for personal use, as part of a "radical cultural shift" in the approach to drug addiction. "I am firmly of the view that there needs to be a cultural shift in how we regard substance misuse if we are to break this cycle and make a serious attempt to tackle drug and alcohol addiction," said Mr Ó Ríordáin. He added that compassion had to be brought to the issue, and that as far as possible drug addiction should be removed from the criminal justice system.

The Minister’s address comes in the wake of leaked report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime indicating it will call for the decriminalisation of consumption of drugs on public health and human rights grounds. Mr Ó Ríordáin says the heads of a new Misuse of Drugs Bill are being drawn up which will “unblock” the legislative obstacles to opening injection rooms.

Mr Ó Ríordáin said he wanted to remove the "stigma" from drug addiction and the key to this will be preventing, as much as possible, those caught up in addiction ending up with criminal convictions. He added that the "shame" that dominates the discourse around drug use "disrupts the capacity of families and individuals" to seek help…This will be a wider discussion under the next government but once people get their head around the argument, about what decriminalisation actually means, that policy won't be about the drug but about the individual. Then regardless of the drug the individual needs an intervention and society will be saying, 'the substance is illegal, but you are not a criminal for taking it'."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/injection-rooms-for-addicts-to-open-next-year-in-drug-law-change-says-minister-1.2413509

Once again, Salinsky goes out of his way to prove that Progressives are not only uninformed but go out of their demonstrate their ignorance of drug laws in the U.S..

Salinsky, have you heard of Drug Courts?

What percentage of criminals are in Federal Prisons due to simple possess of drugs?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Salinsky wrote:Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who is set to announce the radical move in a speech to the London School of Economics on Monday, told The Irish Times that medically supervised injection rooms "will happen next year." His address he will also outline plans to decriminalise the possession of small amounts of drugs, including heroin, cocaine and cannabis, for personal use, as part of a "radical cultural shift" in the approach to drug addiction. "I am firmly of the view that there needs to be a cultural shift in how we regard substance misuse if we are to break this cycle and make a serious attempt to tackle drug and alcohol addiction," said Mr Ó Ríordáin. He added that compassion had to be brought to the issue, and that as far as possible drug addiction should be removed from the criminal justice system.

The Minister’s address comes in the wake of leaked report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime indicating it will call for the decriminalisation of consumption of drugs on public health and human rights grounds. Mr Ó Ríordáin says the heads of a new Misuse of Drugs Bill are being drawn up which will “unblock” the legislative obstacles to opening injection rooms.

Mr Ó Ríordáin said he wanted to remove the "stigma" from drug addiction and the key to this will be preventing, as much as possible, those caught up in addiction ending up with criminal convictions. He added that the "shame" that dominates the discourse around drug use "disrupts the capacity of families and individuals" to seek help…This will be a wider discussion under the next government but once people get their head around the argument, about what decriminalisation actually means, that policy won't be about the drug but about the individual. Then regardless of the drug the individual needs an intervention and society will be saying, 'the substance is illegal, but you are not a criminal for taking it'."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/injection-rooms-for-addicts-to-open-next-year-in-drug-law-change-says-minister-1.2413509

Once again, Salinsky goes out of his way to prove that Progressives are not only uninformed but go out of their demonstrate their ignorance of drug laws in the U.S..

Salinsky, have you heard of Drug Courts?

What percentage of criminals are in Federal Prisons due to simple possess of drugs?

Answer: Too Many.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Salinsky wrote:Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who is set to announce the radical move in a speech to the London School of Economics on Monday, told The Irish Times that medically supervised injection rooms "will happen next year." His address he will also outline plans to decriminalise the possession of small amounts of drugs, including heroin, cocaine and cannabis, for personal use, as part of a "radical cultural shift" in the approach to drug addiction. "I am firmly of the view that there needs to be a cultural shift in how we regard substance misuse if we are to break this cycle and make a serious attempt to tackle drug and alcohol addiction," said Mr Ó Ríordáin. He added that compassion had to be brought to the issue, and that as far as possible drug addiction should be removed from the criminal justice system.

The Minister’s address comes in the wake of leaked report from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime indicating it will call for the decriminalisation of consumption of drugs on public health and human rights grounds. Mr Ó Ríordáin says the heads of a new Misuse of Drugs Bill are being drawn up which will “unblock” the legislative obstacles to opening injection rooms.

Mr Ó Ríordáin said he wanted to remove the "stigma" from drug addiction and the key to this will be preventing, as much as possible, those caught up in addiction ending up with criminal convictions. He added that the "shame" that dominates the discourse around drug use "disrupts the capacity of families and individuals" to seek help…This will be a wider discussion under the next government but once people get their head around the argument, about what decriminalisation actually means, that policy won't be about the drug but about the individual. Then regardless of the drug the individual needs an intervention and society will be saying, 'the substance is illegal, but you are not a criminal for taking it'."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/injection-rooms-for-addicts-to-open-next-year-in-drug-law-change-says-minister-1.2413509

Once again, Salinsky goes out of his way to prove that Progressives are not only uninformed but go out of their demonstrate their ignorance of drug laws in the U.S..

Salinsky, have you heard of Drug Courts?

What percentage of criminals are in Federal Prisons due to simple possess of drugs?

Answer:  Too Many.  

Boasting once again of total ignorance.

Sal

Sal

Ol' Man Markle is still all in with the War on Drugs.

Here ya go, Ol' Man Markle ....


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Guest


Guest

Sal wouldn't know truth if it hits him in booty

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Drugs and addicts should be a medical issue...the feds just don't like losing their monopoly and control.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152715628181.html

Mexican official: CIA 'manages' drug trade
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Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:Ol' Man Markle is still all in with the War on Drugs.

Here ya go, Ol' Man Markle ....

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

If markle had lived in 1920 he would have been a staunch supporter of Prohibition.   There were plenty of pied pipers like Bill O'Reilly for markle to listen to back then.

But even worse,  I'm convinced markle would have been just as zealous with his opposition to the repeal of Prohibition in 1933.
He wouldn't have give a shit about Al Capone and all the gangsters just like he doesn't give a shit about all the drug gangsters today.
None of that matters to him.  All that matters to him is getting bill o'reilly and the nanny government to keep the reefer madness going so we all won't turn into drug crazed lunatics from smoking a joint.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

What unbelievable hypocrites.  They spew out all this shit about not wanting the federal government to be meddling in our business.
But boy when it comes to smoking a joint,  all of a sudden they want obama to ride herd on the states and tell them what they can and cannot do.

Markle

Markle

Still as with Kate's Law, our Progressive friends here demand to remain uninformed and chug the Kool Aid given to them by their masters by the buckets and chug it down as fast as they possibly can.

Come on my good friends, what percent of prisoners in Federal Prisons are there for simple possession of narcotics.

And not a one of you know what makes up Drug Court and what states have Drug Courts.

Did all of you learn this from the Clinton's?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle,

Unless the laws were written by Bill O'Reilly,  I would want to think that hardly anybody is serving a prison term for possessing a token amount of marijuana.
I don't think that's a felony much of anywhere anymore and people don't normally go to prison for a misdemeanor.  But not being an expert on the marijuana laws and Kates Law like only you are,  correct me if I'm wrong.

But buddyro people ARE in prison for possessing larger amounts of marijuana even if they only have it for themselves.

But that's not even the point.  The point is NOBODY is in doing time in prison for possessing alcohol.  The reason for that is it was already tried and all it did was give birth to organized crime and murderous gangsters and hoodlums.  It didn't stop people from drinking.
Same as the Prohibition on marijuana has done.  It's time to repeal that Prohibition alltogether for the same reason.

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:Markle,

Unless the laws were written by Bill O'Reilly,  I would want to think that hardly anybody is serving a prison term for possessing a token amount of marijuana.
I don't think that's a felony much of anywhere anymore and people don't normally go to prison for a misdemeanor.  But not being an expert on the marijuana laws and Kates Law like only you are,  correct me if I'm wrong.

But buddyro people ARE in prison for possessing larger amounts of marijuana even if they only have it for themselves.

But that's not even the point.  The point is NOBODY is in doing time in prison for possessing alcohol.  The reason for that is it was already tried and all it did was give birth to organized crime and murderous gangsters and hoodlums.  It didn't stop people from drinking.
Same as the Prohibition on marijuana has done.  It's time to repeal that Prohibition altogether for the same reason.

It takes so little to learn about marijuana laws and Kate's that I'm embarrassed for you boasting of your ignorance. It seems that you did some looking and are trying to slightly walk back your former statements.

The Drug Courts are the reason there are so few prisoners in Federal Prisons for simple possession. You may be interested in knowing that Florida was the first state to fund and try Drug Courts.

"Drug courts are judicially supervised court dockets that handle cases of non-violent substance-abusing offenders under the adult, juvenile, family and tribal justice systems. Drug courts are problem-solving courts that operate under a specialized model in which the judiciary, prosecution, defense bar, probation, law enforcement, mental health, social service, and treatment communities work together to help non-violent offenders find restoration in recovery and become productive citizens. In the USA, there are currently over 2,459 drug courts representing all fifty states and the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands and 111 tribal drug court programs.

Operations[edit]
Drug courts operate under a model that combines intensive judicial supervision, mandatory drug testing, escalating sanctions and treatment to help substance abusing offenders break the cycle of addiction and the crime that accompanies it. In 1997 the National Association of Drug Court Professionals published Defining Drug Courts:

The Key Components designed to provide courts with a model which can be adapted to fit the specific needs of the community.

Key components[edit]

Drug courts integrate alcohol and other drug treatment services with justice system case processing

Using a non-adversarial approach, prosecution and defense counsel promote public safety.

Participants must waive their due process rights to a speedy trial and sign a pre-emptive confession before being allowed to participate

Eligible participants are identified early and promptly placed in the drug court program

Drug courts provide access to a continuum of alcohol, drug, and other related treatment and rehabilitation services

Abstinence is monitored by frequent alcohol and other drug testing

A coordinated strategy governs drug court responses to participants compliance

Ongoing judicial interaction with each drug court participant is essential

Monitoring and evaluation measure the achievement of program goals and gauge effectiveness

Continuing interdisciplinary education promotes effective drug court planning, implementation, and operations

Forging partnerships among drug courts, public agencies, and community-based organizations generates local support and enhances their effectiveness[2]

Not knowing about this should be embarrassing to all Progressives since this is what they constantly whine to be put in place instead of putting people in prison.

Markle

Markle

FACTS about the number of prisoners incarcerated in Federal Prisons for simple drug possession. Wild eyed Progressives, such as Bernie Sanders say our prisons are filled with people guilty of simple possession of marijuana. Thus proving he is just a typical, old white guy with no current...or decades old information.

A bipartisan failure in talking about prisons and the ‘war on drugs’

[...]

In 2014, there were 1.56 million prisoners in federal and state prisons. The rate of imprisonment is actually at its lowest rate in a decade, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Of the inmates, more than 50 percent were convicted of violent offenses, while only 15.7 percent were incarcerated on drug charges. (Just 3.6 percent were in prison for drug possession, while 12.1 percent were jailed for trafficking or other serious drug offenses.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/05/a-bipartisan-failure-in-talking-about-prisons-and-the-war-on-drugs/

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Markle wrote:FACTS about the number of prisoners incarcerated in Federal Prisons for simple drug possession.  Wild eyed Progressives, such as Bernie Sanders say our prisons are filled with people guilty of simple possession of marijuana.  Thus proving he is just a typical, old white guy with no current...or decades old information.

A bipartisan failure in talking about prisons and the ‘war on drugs’

[...]

In 2014, there were 1.56 million prisoners in federal and state prisons. The rate of imprisonment is actually at its lowest rate in a decade, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Of the inmates, more than 50 percent were convicted of violent offenses, while only 15.7 percent were incarcerated on drug charges. (Just 3.6 percent were in prison for drug possession, while 12.1 percent were jailed for trafficking or other serious drug offenses.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/05/a-bipartisan-failure-in-talking-about-prisons-and-the-war-on-drugs/


that's still 54000 people in jail for possession...

Markle

Markle

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Markle wrote:FACTS about the number of prisoners incarcerated in Federal Prisons for simple drug possession.  Wild eyed Progressives, such as Bernie Sanders say our prisons are filled with people guilty of simple possession of marijuana.  Thus proving he is just a typical, old white guy with no current...or decades old information.

A bipartisan failure in talking about prisons and the ‘war on drugs’

[...]

In 2014, there were 1.56 million prisoners in federal and state prisons. The rate of imprisonment is actually at its lowest rate in a decade, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Of the inmates, more than 50 percent were convicted of violent offenses, while only 15.7 percent were incarcerated on drug charges. (Just 3.6 percent were in prison for drug possession, while 12.1 percent were jailed for trafficking or other serious drug offenses.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/05/a-bipartisan-failure-in-talking-about-prisons-and-the-war-on-drugs/


That's still 54,000 people in jail for possession...

Not true.

3.6% AND you have no clue what higher crimes they plead down to in order to get a conviction for possession.

From the Bureau of Prisons.

198,953
Total Federal Inmates
Last Updated November 5, 2015.

Data refreshed every Thursday at 12:00 A.M.
Generate Reports  |  View Past Totals

http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/population_statistics.jsp


198,953 Total Federal Inmates
X 3.6%  =

198.953
X  .036
7,162  Plead down from more serious charges to possession.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wants to quibble about statistics.

The facts are, nobody should be in prison for possession of narcotics.  Nobody.

Legalize drugs and end the war on drugs with a big win.  Without the profits, there's no incentive for drug crime.

Treat addicts as medical problems, nor as criminals.  

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Wordslinger wrote:

... nobody should be in prison for possession of narcotics.  Nobody.

Legalize drugs and end the war on drugs with a big win.  Without the profits, there's no incentive for drug crime.

Treat addicts as medical problems, nor as criminals.  

After reading this in your post,  I just want to clarify something.

In the past,  now and in the future,  whenever I write anything about marijuana,  it's confined only to specifically marijuana.

I never refer to "drugs",  only marijuana. 

The term "drugs" lumps literally thousands of different substances into one thing.  Prescription drugs,  street drugs,  prescription drugs sold on the street,  nicotine,  alcohol, marijuana and all the rest of it.

Or "drugs" means heroin,  cocaine,  crack,  meth, ecstasy, marijuana, etc. (conveniently leaving out the prescription drugs,  the alcohol, and the tobacco because those are the "legal" drugs).

Marijuana is marijuana.  It's not any of the rest of that.

Cheech and Chong appeared on Hannity.  They confined their remarks to only marijuana too.  And that's the reason they both look so healthy at their advanced age.
Keith Richards indulged in all of it.  He don't look so good.

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