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The real truth about American socialism ...

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

It ain't Amerika Inc.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42917.htm

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote: It ain't Amerika Inc.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42917.htm[/b]


The real truth about American socialism ... Hitlers-train-Amerika_zpseebd91bd

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Once again, confronted with the truth, Markle dives into his cliche file. Thanks dear Markle, for confirming your inadequacies.

Guest


Guest

Socialism - another step towards being communist

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obamasucks wrote:Socialism - another step towards being communist

Hey SucksObama ... you gonna drive on a road today? Who the fuck do you think paid for that road? LOL

Guest


Guest

Every productive citizen... to promote constitutional general welfare... meaning that it benefits every citizen.

Guest


Guest

I oaid for the road ahole

Guest


Guest

All of it ... As I ride down it to Hurlburt

Guest


Guest

Word is easily confused

Guest


Guest

Onset of dementia

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Hey SucksObama: The government collected money from the people (they call it taxation) and then it built the road. That qualifies it 100% as socialism. LOL

Guest


Guest

Negative

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obamasucks wrote:Negative

What, pray tell, does qualify as socialism? Social Security? Medicare? Tunnels and Bridges? What's your definition?

The fire department and all its equipment are paid through funds collected by taxes. Socialism?

What is your definition?

Guest


Guest

I'd say it's a mix of corporate and socialism... there's an ideology for that.Obamacaid is the largest. Guess what it is?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:I'd say it's a mix of corporate and socialism... there's an ideology for that.Obamacaid is the largest. Guess what it is?

You're saying a road built and paid for by a government agency is partly corporate? Explain please.

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'd say it's a mix of corporate and socialism... there's an ideology for that.Obamacaid is the largest. Guess what it is?

You're saying a road built and paid for by a government agency is partly corporate? Explain please.

No... I explained earlier that the collaboration of the productive for the common good is constitutional. Meaning a benefit to all. What you propose constantly is redistributive... meaning it only benefits certain specific segments that you deem worthy.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I'd say it's a mix of corporate and socialism... there's an ideology for that.Obamacaid is the largest. Guess what it is?

You're saying a road built and paid for by a government agency is partly corporate?  Explain please.

No... I explained earlier that the collaboration of the productive for the common good is constitutional. Meaning a benefit to all. What you propose constantly is redistributive... meaning it only benefits certain specific segments that you deem worthy.

So you're against Social Security? Medicare? The GI Bill?

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:Socialism - another step towards being communist

Hey SucksObama ... you gonna drive on a road today?  Who the fuck do you think paid for that road?  LOL

Tax payers in that community through their property taxes. Most certainly not the "GOVERNMENT".

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Are you saying the government has no money of it's own but must instead pilfer it from the populace ?

Guest


Guest

Taxpayers pay for roads and such. It isn't taken from those who work and things be given to those not working

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obamasucks wrote:Taxpayers pay for roads and such. It isn't taken from those who work and things be given to those not working

I presume you will eventually get some sort of retirement check, perhaps for your time in service. Is that socialism? It will, of course, be taken from the pay of workers to pay for you. And while we're on the subject, why is your retirement any different from Social Security -- another means by which government takes from one group and gives to another. No matter how you pretend and dance around it, America has always been a socialist-capitalist nation. Public hospitals, schools, emergency services ... all furnishing services to taxpayers as well as the unemployed, etc., using funds collected from the pay of workers for the public good. Clearly a form of socialism.



Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obamasucks wrote:Taxpayers pay for roads and such. It isn't taken from those who work and things be given to those not working

Right. The unemployed aren't allowed to use the roads paid for with taxes collected from workers ... get real!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

"Socialists do not sacrifice the weak and the vulnerable, especially children, on the altars of profit. And the measure of a successful society for a socialist is not the GDP or the highs of the stock market but the right of everyone, especially children, never go to bed hungry, to live in safety and security, to be nurtured and educated, and to grow up fulfill his or her potential. Work is not only about a wage, it is about dignity and a sense of self-worth."

The simple truth is, socialists care about people and their feelings, capitalists care ONLY about profits. Under the capitalism we now have here in Amerika Inc., 1% control more than half of all the money. Eventually, they hope to have it all. Reality.

Guest


Guest

Word is butt hurt he has not retirement

Markle

Markle

My Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger simply WANTS to believe so badly that we already have Socialism that he is happy to re-define the word. Talk about desperation.

He needs to review the definition again. Perhaps that will help him...but that is severely in doubt.

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership and/or social control[1] of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[2][3] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[4][5] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership (achieved by nationalization), citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[6] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[7]

A socialist economy is based on the principle of production for use, to directly satisfy economic demand and human needs, and objects are valued by their use-value, as opposed to the principle of production for profit and accumulation of capital.[8] In the traditional conception of a socialist economy, coordination, accounting and valuation are performed in kind (using physical quantities), by a common physical magnitude, or by a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.[9][10] For distributing output, two alternative principles have been proposed: to each according to his contribution and from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The advisability, feasibility and exact way of allocating and valuing resources are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

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