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1Bergdahl Empty Bergdahl 9/7/2015, 1:43 pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/military-selects-rarely-used-charge-bergdahl-case-144326544.html

His lawyer is crying. I wonder if the lawyer ever considered the families of the six men who died looking for this piece of trash? I would hope the military charges him six times for each charge they have against him. That's how it should go down. This is an open and shut case and only because O is POTUS has it dragged on this long. Bergdahl was a cherry in the hand, or so the COWH thought it to be, when the trade of five Taliban generals was made for one private in the army. Even in reiterating this after many years, it still boggles the mind of why we made this trade. We weren't rescuing someone who had been captured as he left his post on his own free will. Men died trying to rescue him. he was given treatment by the enemy much like Garwood was in Vietnam- a serious violation of the Code of Conduct. For Bergdahl to continue to walk free after fellow service members(dead and wounded) and their families still suffer is the most tragic issue about this case. I don't care if this isn't PC, but he deserves the death penalty for what he has done and anything less is a sham.

2Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/7/2015, 1:55 pm

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This is a perfect example of obama's negotiating skills... I seriously wouldn't let him buy me a car.

3Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/7/2015, 2:52 pm

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Those soldiers that died looking for Bergdahl in the few hours after his desertion were

Second Lieutenant Darryn Andrews
Private First Class Morris Walker
Staff Sergeant Clayton Bowen
Staff Sergeant Kurt Curtiss
Private First Class Matthew Martinek
Staff Sergeant Michael Murphrey.

4Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 3:44 am

Vikingwoman



"The Pentagon says nobody died searching for Bergdahl". How much does this guy have to suffer?

He spent 5 goddamn years as a POW.

WTH is wrong w/ people who have to inflict so much suffering on people? You're one sick effer PD!

5Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 4:05 am

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He brought this upon himself... and obama brought home a known coward, traitor, and defector.

The deaths upon each of their heads isn't over either... the high ranking terrorists exchanged are back in business.

6Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 4:58 am

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Vikingwoman wrote:"The Pentagon says nobody died searching for Bergdahl".  How much does this guy have to suffer?

He spent 5 goddamn years as a POW.

WTH is wrong w/ people who have to inflict so much suffering on people? You're one sick effer PD!

As you know, Bergdahl DESERTED and I thought I heard that his military trial will be starting soon.

7Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 5:22 am

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Vikingwoman,
You can't ,in the coldest parts of your heart, even believe what you are spitting out and posting about five dead men in regards to Bergdahl. So, the Pentagon always tells the trying when it is convenient for you to say so, but any other time, they lie through their treeth about everything else huh? Been a hypocrite much lately? Lol.

8Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 12:20 pm

polecat

polecat

Sarah Palin
“Todd and I are praying for Private First Class Bowe Bergdahl, his family, and all of his fellow soldiers who are putting their lives on the line to defend our freedom and protect democracy abroad,” Governor Palin said. “The capture of Private Bergdahl and the bombings in Jakarta prove that we have not defeated terrorism, and that radical extremists will stop at nothing to attack Westerners and our ideals.”

Uncle Allan "TOM" west

Then there is Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl still held by the Islamic terrorist Haqqani network, probably in Pakistan, in the same place where Osama Bin Laden was hiding. This past POW/MIA national day of recognition, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reiterated a pledge to secure the young Army NCO being held captive, but have there been any actions? Any time, attention, or even mention from the Commander-in-Chief? Nah, no camera highlights in it for him.”

Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft


Horrible. Obama to Leave US POW to Rot in Afghanistan After Withdrawal

Sgt. Bowe Robert Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban in 2009 in Afghanistan. Four months ago, his family in Idaho received a letter from their son through the Red Cross. He was still alive. But sadly it looks like Barack Obama is going to leave US POW Sgt. Bowe Robert Bergdahl behind.

9Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 12:41 pm

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RACIST..!!

10Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 1:45 pm

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Go look up definition of Uncle Tom.
Trump liberated me no more time to be PC

WALL

11Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 2:00 pm

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That was a tough call by Obama but we can't knowingly leave a POW behind regardless of the circumstances of how he was captured. Giving up 5 terrorist weenies seems excessive but they can always be killed later.

Bergdahl will get his day before a military judge and regardless of what happens there he will be known as a cowardly deserter forever.

12Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 2:05 pm

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polecat wrote:Go look up definition of Uncle Tom.
Trump liberated me no more time to be PC

WALL

Labeling a black man an uncle tom because you disagree with his politics is despicable and designates you as a racist.

An asshole racist at that.

13Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 2:09 pm

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gatorfan wrote:That was a tough call by Obama but we can't knowingly leave a POW behind regardless of the circumstances of how he was captured. Giving up 5 terrorist weenies seems excessive but they can always be killed later.

Bergdahl will get his day before a military judge and regardless of what happens there he will be known as a cowardly deserter forever.

EVERYONE knew that he had deserted and joined the enemy before obama bent over and gave away the farm...

again.

14Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 2:49 pm

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http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/06/03/hating-on-bowe-bergdahl/

Hating on Bowe Bergdahl
What’s behind the vicious campaign against the last American POW in Afghanistan?

by Justin Raimondo, June 04, 2014
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Embittered by double defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan, driven out of both countries with their tails between their legs, the War Party is looking for scapegoats, and has found one in the least likely place – the ranks of the US Army. That’s right: the "support the troops" contingent is now intent on re-torturing Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, a 26-year-old Idaho native held captive by the Taliban for five horrific years.

A concerted campaign, stage-managed by "Republican strategists" – i.e. Richard Grenell, former Romney foreign policy consultant fired for being too gay – is pitting some of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s former comrades against the just-released prisoner-of-war. The former claim Bergdahl is a "traitor" who deserted his post: a 2012 Rolling Stone piece by Michael Hastings implies as much. Yet we really don’t know what happened: in a Taliban propaganda video Bergdahl says he was caught after he "lagged behind" on patrol. And this US government cable posted by WikiLeaks contains intercepted Taliban communications hailing his capture and claiming it occurred in the course of an attack on Bergdahl’s base while he was using a latrine.

We don’t yet know the circumstances of his capture, and so these calls for prosecution are premature, to say the least. Not that legal niceties like evidence matter to the baying wolves of the neocon media: they want vengeance for the war they lost and were widely blamed for. Having lost on the battlefield in Afghanistan, the War Party is seeking a victory on the home front.

The persecution of Bowe Bergdahl is just the first chapter in the neocons’ ongoing revisionist history of the Afghan war. And we know the theme of this work of fiction from the very first act: it’s a tired replay of the old "we-were-stabbed-in-the-back" myth promulgated by failed Napoleons in every country. In the American version, they said – and still say – the same thing about the Vietnam war – we were prevented from winning by squeamish liberals and anti-American war protesters, who secretly (and not so secretly) supported the Commie cause.

In Bergdahl’s case, his alleged desertion becomes a metaphor for all opposition to the war, with his angry emails to his father appearing to be his real "crime." Yet amid all the speculation and unseemly clamor, one weird anomaly stands out: soldiers don’t usually go AWOL while they’re in Afghanistan. They wait until they get back to the US on leave: Bergdahl’s case is, to my knowledge, a first. Did he really think he was going to walk to India, as he half-jokingly remarked to his former comrades? None of this makes much sense.

Which leads to the main question: if he did desert, what triggered him? A gung ho idealistic pro-military guy from Idaho doesn’t volunteer for the military, go to Afghanistan, and suddenly wake up one morning determined to walk away. In 2012 the New York Times reported:

"At first his e-mails home were effusive. ‘He was happy as a clam," Mr.[Robert] Bergdahl [Bowe’s father] said. He wrote of ‘how beautiful it was, how wonderful the people were.’ But the tone of his son’s e-mails soon darkened, Mr. Bergdahl said, although he declined to say specifically what set off the change."

In the Hastings account of Bergdahl’s emails, however, a bit more of the story comes out:

"He then referred to what his parents believe may have been a formative, possibly traumatic event: seeing an Afghan child run over by an MRAP. ‘We don’t even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks… We make fun of them in front of their faces, and laugh at them for not understanding we are insulting them.’”

This seems fairly straightforward: Bergdahl clearly witnessed war crimes which had not only gone unpunished but were openly acknowledged and treated as jokes. He is, perhaps, capable of pointing an accusing finger at some of those who are being dredged up to label him a traitor. Whether their campaign of calumny is a preemptive strike, it’s too early to say: we have yet to hear from Bowe Bergdahl, who, it seems, is having difficulty remembering how to speak English.

The more I learn about this case, the less conclusive are the established facts: did he just walk off, alone, or is the latrine story true? Bits of evidence point in opposite directions.

What we do know is that Bergdahl was radically disenchanted with the US military and the war itself: we also know he witnessed at least one specific incident in which a young Afghan girl was run over – deliberately? – by US military personnel. What other atrocities did Bergdahl witness – and was, perhaps, forced to take part in? If these are the facts, then his seemingly crazy decision to set off into the Afghan countryside begins to make at least a modicum of (moral) sense.

In this context, it’s hard to imagine the administration prosecuting him for desertion: does the US State Department really want Bergdahl to testify how US soldiers in an armored truck laughed as they ran down an Afghan girl? As for the Fox News crowd, this could backfire on the War Party, big-time – remember that old adage about fools rushing in? Well, it wouldn’t be the first time, now would it?

They’ll rush in anyway, because this is the kind of thing they enjoy. The Fox News bleach blondes and radio screamers are practically frothing at the mouth: they point suspiciously at the prominence of Robert Bergdahl’s beard, sure signs he’s a "Muslim convert" and Taliban sympathizer! That’s the level of demagoguery we’re seeing around this issue – and, I warn you, it’s going to get worse.

As usual, the tone-deaf Republicans – eagerly seizing on this as their signature foreign policy Benghazi-substitute issue – are their own worst enemies. While the burning question of "who lost Afghanistan?" may be a hot topic of conversation on their busy little blogs, out in the real world the country is sick unto death of hearing about Afghanistan.

The very last thing the American people want to see is some poor kid who got snookered into fighting that worthless war get pilloried for the sins of US policymakers. Yet what we are about to witness, I’m afraid, is the disgusting spectacle of an Idaho farm boy crucified by a gaggle of partisan Pharisees.

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15Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 3:22 pm

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He... of his own free will... chose to desert his american post and join the taliban army.

That should've been the end of it until obama killed him like he did al awiki and his teenage son.

16Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 5:35 pm

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You're a moron,Pkr. He joined the Taliban Army and they kept him as a prisoner of war for 5 years?

17Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 5:44 pm

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He was no prisoner... except as a tool and bargaining chip. He basically aided the enemy by walking to them.

18Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 8:43 pm

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Did you see the condition he was in? He was in a hospital for months. You just think you can make up stuff you want to believe and think other people will believe your stupidity?

19Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 8:50 pm

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He looked like a member of the taliban... probably smelled like one too.

20Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 9:00 pm

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He looked like a member of the taliban... probably smelled like one too.


I know for a fact that PK has some validity in the smell test........at the horseshoe I observed him playing poker......he would get his cards put them down, and then crawl behind each poker player smelling their butts......he was looking for tells......at least that is what I suggested.....you can smell fear and tells......I think he thought I said tails, and when he could not find a tail, he was stuck talking with the Russian.

21Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/9/2015, 10:29 pm

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Vikingwoman wrote:Did you see the condition he was in? He was in a hospital for months. You just think you can make up stuff you want to believe and think other people will believe your stupidity?

Bergdahl deserted and semi-retired President Obama saw fit to release 5, handpicked by al Qaida generals. Disgusting and cowardly.

Bergdahl looked like all the other Taliban members. No better, no worse. Whatever condition he was in, came of his own making.

He has been charged with two counts of desertion under the Military Code of Justice. Unless it is postponed again, he has a hearing coming up the middle of this month.

Why did President Obama NOT negotiate for the release of the 4, possibly 5 hostages being held by Iran when Obama caved on everything for Iran? Could he have at LEAST done that?

22Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/10/2015, 2:37 am

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They were not generals. I don't know why you insist on lying about everything? There were due to be released anyway. You'd think by your age you'd have developed some character? Geez!

23Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/10/2015, 7:02 am

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Yes Viking they were Taliban leadership and two have already went back got heir jihad against the US.

24Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/10/2015, 7:05 am

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Read and heed chick -

http://www.ibtimes.com/where-are-taliban-five-now-commanders-bowe-bergdahl-swap-getting-royal-treatment-1859320

25Bergdahl Empty Re: Bergdahl 9/10/2015, 7:07 am

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Here's some brief info-


In this photo reviewed by the military, an American flag waves within the razor wire-lined compound of Camp Delta prison, at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba, June 27, 2006. The five former detainees exchanged for Bowe Bergdahl are now in Qatar. Reuters
Since they were swapped for U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl last year, five former Taliban commanders are now living in quarters quite unlike their Guantanamo Bay jail cells. The leaders, known as the Taliban Five or the Guantanamo Five, are getting “royal treatment” in Qatar, the Persian Gulf state where they were sent following the swap, according to Newsweek.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Noori, Muhammad Nabi, Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa and Abdul Haq Wasiq were mid- to high-ranking Taliban officials who were captured by U.S. forces in the early days of the war in Afghanistan, according to CNN. Critics of the Bergdahl swap said the men are dangerous and will eventually return to attack the U.S. once their year of surveillance in Qatar is up. One intelligence agency said one of the men contacted the Taliban after his release, according to the network. More far-fetched rumors -- that three of the former detainees were now commanders with the Islamic State group -- were given a “Pants on Fire” rating by the fact-checking site Politifact.

But the five men are enjoying cushy conditions in Qatar, Newsweek reported. None of the five are from the wealthy Gulf nation and they are feeling “homesick,” according to the publication. Their handlers have accommodated them by allowing them to each bring five other Taliban families to help them in Doha, the capital of Qatar where the men are staying. About 35 Taliban households with connections to the Guantanamo Five are in Doha, according to Newsweek.


Some of the former detainees aren’t content. At least two of them want to return to fight in Afghanistan. Some current commanders fear a leadership struggle should the men eventually return.

Fazl, who is either 46 or 47 years old, was identified as the Taliban deputy minister of defense during the war in Afghanistan, NPR reported. Noori, around the same age, was a senior military commander in Mazar-e-Sharif, a strategic city in the north of Afghanistan. Nabi, either 45 or 46 years old, was a “senior Taliban official in multiple leadership roles.” Khairkhwa, either 46 or 47 years old, was the minister of interior, governor of Herat and a military commander. Wasiq, either 42 or 43 years old, was the Taliban deputy minister of intelligence.

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