Study finds organic food is no better on vitamins, nutrients

WASHINGTON – Patient after patient asked: Is eating organic food, which costs more, really better for me?

Unsure, Stanford University doctors dug through reams of research to find out -- and concluded there's little evidence that going organic is much healthier, citing only a few differences involving pesticides and antibiotics.

Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children -- but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday.

Nor did the organic foods prove more nutritious.

"I was absolutely surprised," said Dr. Dena Bravata, a senior research affiliate at Stanford and long-time internist who began the analysis because so many of her patients asked if they should switch.

"There are many reasons why someone might choose organic foods over conventional foods," from environmental concerns to taste preferences, Bravata stressed. But when it comes to individual health, "there isn't much difference."

Her team did find a notable difference with antibiotic-resistant germs, a public health concern because they are harder to treat if they cause food poisoning.

Specialists long have said that organic or not, the chances of bacterial contamination of food are the same, and Monday's analysis agreed. But when bacteria did lurk in chicken or pork, germs in the non-organic meats had a 33 percent higher risk of being resistant to to multiple antibiotics, the researchers reported Monday in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine.

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I call BS on this. What kind of research is being paid for out there for what purposes? I was highly suspicious when they came out and said PSA test were not useful, now this.

Chrissy8 wrote:

Oh really?

Yomama wrote:

Chrissy8 wrote:

Oh really?

Thats a very BIG hadron you got . Its very particular

I just read about the same study, Chrissy! For the handful of folks who frequent this forum that find Fox News untrustworthy or distasteful for whatever reason, see if this suits you all's tastes (and for crap's sake, the study was done by STANFORD!):

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/science/earth/study-questions-advantages-of-organic-meat-and-produce.html

I sent this to a few members of my family and some friends yesterday.

riceme wrote:I just read about the same study, Chrissy! For the handful of folks who frequent this forum that find Fox News untrustworthy or distasteful for whatever reason, see if this suits you all's tastes (and for crap's sake, the study was done by STANFORD!):

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/science/earth/study-questions-advantages-of-organic-meat-and-produce.html

I sent this to a few members of my family and some friends yesterday.

just becasue a article is on fox news doesnt mean it was written by them. I hope people know that? Your story is the same story.

and yes, it suprises me about this and I call BS on it. I know people are going to say oh your just a dummy, these people are smarter than you blah blah blah...

I dont care, you would have to be a dummy to buy this. what and who is paying them to find crap like this. they are purposly trying to mislead us.

Thats why i mentioned the PSA test too, they were purposly mis leading men and men will die because of it. Now this. somethings NOT right.

Im not being a conspirist on this. im serious as a heart attack. This information is a LIE and millions of people are going to beleive it and may not eat as healthy. A article and push like this could deginerate our eating habits further as a culture and its already pretty damn bad.

There are a lot of people -- mostly not here -- who disregard anything put out by Fox News, Chrissy. That's why I provided an alternate source for the same story. It may not be "right" but it "is".

I respectfully disagree with your position regarding organics. For many years I have only drank fat free organic milk because it just tastes better to me, and I will continue to pay more to enjoy my organic milk. Aside from that, I might buy an occasional organic fruit or veggie if something looks particularly tasty, but that is no change to how I currently shop.

For me, this confirms what I have always believed . . . . that there is little if any difference between organic foods and non organic. I enjoy gardening and avoid the use of pesticides when possible only out of a sense of caution.

knothead wrote:For me, this confirms what I have always believed . . . . that there is little if any difference between organic foods and non organic. I enjoy gardening and avoid the use of pesticides when possible only out of a sense of caution.

No offense to Chrissy, 'cos she's our resident scientist, but I feel the same way. Although I DO rinse the crap out of my produce to get any residual pesticides or whatever off. Mostly because I don't trust whoever is responsible for doing that to actually do it.

Its ok to disagree with me.

But years of studies have shown that pesiticides do effect our health and also hormones that are put into our foods all have been proven unhealthy for us.

I dont have time to debate it right now and Im sure everybody wants this to be true because organics are so expensive, but we are tossing the baby out with the bath water here.

Think about what you are saying.

do you honestly beleive that the use of pesticides and hormones in our food doesnt harm us?

Chrissy8 wrote:Its ok to disagree with me.

But years of studies have shown that pesiticides do effect our health and also hormones that are put into our foods all have been proven unhealthy for us.

I dont have time to debate it right now and Im sure everybody wants this to be true because organics are so expensive, but we are tossing the baby out with the bath water here.

Think about what you are saying.

do you honestly beleive that the use of pesticides and hormones in our food doesnt harm us?

Count me as one of those fools who believe in science . . . and to riceme's admonition a good washing to remove surface residue is practical advice. I have never known of anyone who got sick from inter cellular or molecular pollution of these chemicals in sufficient quantities to do harm . . . . I could very well be wrong but I'm healthy as a horse. Just saying . . . .

http://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html

(NaturalNews) If you read the mainstream news headlines today, you might be shocked to see headlines that say things like, "Organic foods no healthier than conventional foods" or "Organic foods may not be healthier for you." You'll see these headlines all across the usual disinfo outlets: NPR, Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, WebMD and elsewhere.

The problem with these headlines is that they are flatly false. The study these news outlets are quoting actually confirms that organic foods are far healthier for you than conventional foods.

So how is the mainstream media lying about this? By fudging the facts, of course.

For starters, the "study" isn't even a study. It was just a review of other studies. No new laboratory analysis was done whatsoever!

The "review" was conducted at Stanford University and published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. You can read the abstract here:
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1355685

As the study itself concludes:

• Exposure to chemical pesticides was significantly lower in organic foods (roughly 30% less than conventional foods).

• Exposure to "superbugs" in meat (antibiotic-resistant bacteria) was also significantly lower in organic foods (roughly a 33% risk difference).

• The study conclusion says, right out, that "Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria."

How the media lied

Somehow, the mainstream media took this study and then lied to their readers, claiming organic food is "no different" than conventional food. That is a flat-out lie, of course. Because it fails to mention all the following:

• GMOs are not allowed in organic foods. So GMO exposure is many orders of magnitude higher in conventional foods, where GMOs are commonplace.

• Artificial chemical sweeteners are not allowed in organic foods. But conventional foods are often sweetened with toxic chemicals such as aspartame or saccharin.

• The study completely failed to look at the use of genetically-modified bovine growth hormones (rBGH) in conventional milk versus organic milk.

• The environmental impact of conventional food production is devastating to the planet. Chemical pesticides aren't just found in the crops; they also run off into the streams, rivers and oceans. No mainstream media article that covered this story even bothered to mention this hugely important issue -- it's one of the primary reasons to buy organic!

• The funding source of the study is listed as "None." Does anybody really believe that? All these scientists supposedly volunteered their time and don't get paid to engage in scientific endeavors? It's absurd. The money for the study had to come from somewhere, and the fact that the Annals of Internal Medicine is hiding the source by listing "none" is just further evidence of scientific wrongdoing.

A total psyop to confuse the public and push GMOs

Ultimately, this study comes down to being a total psyop pushed by the mainstream media for the purpose of confusing the public and ultimately promoting GMOs.

The media's coverage of this is pure disinfo along the lines of other health disinfo campaigns such as:

• Mercury in vaccines is actually GOOD for you and makes vaccines work better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyR2XeLjYTU

• GMOs shouldn't be labeled on foods: it should be a huge corporate secret!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151004427426316&set=pb.35590531315....

• Flu shots are great! Take more flu shots and you'll be protected from the flu (total disinfo, a complete lie).
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influenza_vaccines_effectiveness.ht...

• West Nile Virus is a huge danger to everyone. Run! Run! Spray yourself with deadly chemicals to be "safe!"
http://www.naturalnews.com/037039_West_Nile_virus_chemical_spraying_f...

• Vitamins are dangerous! Don't take vitamins! They might kill you!
http://www.naturalnews.com/033883_vitamins_mortality_risk.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033893_mainstream_media_vitamins.html

Anthony Gucciardi, by the way, has published an excellent video overview of the deception regarding this issue:
http://naturalsociety.com/ridiculous-study-claims-organic-same-as-con...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html#ixzz25cPaGV7y

BP wrote:http://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html

(NaturalNews) If you read the mainstream news headlines today, you might be shocked to see headlines that say things like, "Organic foods no healthier than conventional foods" or "Organic foods may not be healthier for you." You'll see these headlines all across the usual disinfo outlets: NPR, Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, WebMD and elsewhere.

The problem with these headlines is that they are flatly false. The study these news outlets are quoting actually confirms that organic foods are far healthier for you than conventional foods.

So how is the mainstream media lying about this? By fudging the facts, of course.

For starters, the "study" isn't even a study. It was just a review of other studies. No new laboratory analysis was done whatsoever!

The "review" was conducted at Stanford University and published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. You can read the abstract here:
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1355685

As the study itself concludes:

• Exposure to chemical pesticides was significantly lower in organic foods (roughly 30% less than conventional foods).

• Exposure to "superbugs" in meat (antibiotic-resistant bacteria) was also significantly lower in organic foods (roughly a 33% risk difference).

• The study conclusion says, right out, that "Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria."

How the media lied

Somehow, the mainstream media took this study and then lied to their readers, claiming organic food is "no different" than conventional food. That is a flat-out lie, of course. Because it fails to mention all the following:

• GMOs are not allowed in organic foods. So GMO exposure is many orders of magnitude higher in conventional foods, where GMOs are commonplace.

• Artificial chemical sweeteners are not allowed in organic foods. But conventional foods are often sweetened with toxic chemicals such as aspartame or saccharin.

• The study completely failed to look at the use of genetically-modified bovine growth hormones (rBGH) in conventional milk versus organic milk.

• The environmental impact of conventional food production is devastating to the planet. Chemical pesticides aren't just found in the crops; they also run off into the streams, rivers and oceans. No mainstream media article that covered this story even bothered to mention this hugely important issue -- it's one of the primary reasons to buy organic!

• The funding source of the study is listed as "None." Does anybody really believe that? All these scientists supposedly volunteered their time and don't get paid to engage in scientific endeavors? It's absurd. The money for the study had to come from somewhere, and the fact that the Annals of Internal Medicine is hiding the source by listing "none" is just further evidence of scientific wrongdoing.

A total psyop to confuse the public and push GMOs

Ultimately, this study comes down to being a total psyop pushed by the mainstream media for the purpose of confusing the public and ultimately promoting GMOs.

The media's coverage of this is pure disinfo along the lines of other health disinfo campaigns such as:

• Mercury in vaccines is actually GOOD for you and makes vaccines work better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyR2XeLjYTU

• GMOs shouldn't be labeled on foods: it should be a huge corporate secret!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151004427426316&set=pb.35590531315....

• Flu shots are great! Take more flu shots and you'll be protected from the flu (total disinfo, a complete lie).
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influenza_vaccines_effectiveness.ht...

• West Nile Virus is a huge danger to everyone. Run! Run! Spray yourself with deadly chemicals to be "safe!"
http://www.naturalnews.com/037039_West_Nile_virus_chemical_spraying_f...

• Vitamins are dangerous! Don't take vitamins! They might kill you!
http://www.naturalnews.com/033883_vitamins_mortality_risk.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033893_mainstream_media_vitamins.html

Anthony Gucciardi, by the way, has published an excellent video overview of the deception regarding this issue:
http://naturalsociety.com/ridiculous-study-claims-organic-same-as-con...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html#ixzz25cPaGV7y

AGREED.

I read natural news and everything they just mentioned there is a fact.

and I really dont understand other than someone is trying to promote something less than healthy for us why they would do this.

I am at a loss as to why any of the fair minded health concious people on this forum would toss away every single thing they know to be true about pesticides, growth hormones and GMO's all because the MSM puts out one stupid summary like this.

"I am at a loss as to why any of the fair minded health concious people on this forum would toss away every single thing they know to be true about pesticides, growth hormones and GMO's all because the MSM puts out one stupid summary like this. "


The contaminated food they eat addles their brains. Terrible. Just terrible.

BP wrote:"I am at a loss as to why any of the fair minded health concious people on this forum would toss away every single thing they know to be true about pesticides, growth hormones and GMO's all because the MSM puts out one stupid summary like this. "


The contaminated food they eat addles their brains. Terrible. Just terrible.

Hell must have froze over. you and I are agreeing on something.

I have been a strict vegetarian since 1990 and have tried to stick with organic foods. They are very separate choices, though..

I've always known that the nutrition of organic and non-organic foods would be similar in nutrition. The nutrients in produces has more to do with when they are picked and how they are processed and stored before farm vegetables reach your plate.

My choice to go organic was initially inspired to avoid the pesticides that I would ingest over concerns about long-term health risks, including cancer. After all, if you are a vegetarian you are going to eat a lot more veggies than animal eaters. Once I became a mom it was also more about the use of "horrormones. The jury is still out on some of that but better safe than sorry.

As far as dairy products being organic, the animals tend to be treated more humanely that the large mega-industrial farm animals so the extra cost is worth it to me.

I just don't want a DDT laden tasteless tomato picked green that spent more the hull of a rat-infested ship than on the vine before reaching my plate. Farmers markets with organic foods are still the best way to go.

SheSurfs wrote:I have been a strict vegetarian since 1990 and have tried to stick with organic foods. They are very separate choices, though..

I've always known that the nutrition of organic and non-organic foods would be similar in nutrition. The nutrients in produces has more to do with when they are picked and how they are processed and stored before farm vegetables reach your plate.

My choice to go organic was initially inspired to avoid the pesticides that I would ingest over concerns about long-term health risks, including cancer. After all, if you are a vegetarian you are going to eat a lot more veggies than animal eaters. Once I became a mom it was also more about the use of "horrormones. The jury is still out on some of that but better safe than sorry.

As far as dairy products being organic, the animals tend to be treated more humanely that the large mega-industrial farm animals so the extra cost is worth it to me.

I just don't want a DDT laden tasteless tomato picked green that spent more the hull of a rat-infested ship than on the vine before reaching my plate. Farmers markets with organic foods are still the best way to go.

agreed. I add as much of organic as I can to my families diet. its expensive but I try. ai dont think a misleading article like this is going to help people make better choices, it might harm some who simply go oh well why am i paying that when they are the same. its a shame really that someone would do this.

id like ot know who funded this.