Folks murdered by police in 2014 (thus far)

Wordslinger wrote:Whatever happened "To protect and to serve?"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/12/3601771/people-police-killed-in-2014/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=tptop3&utm_campaign=tptop3&elq=~~eloqua..type--emailfield..syntax--recipientid~~&elqCampaignId=~~eloqua..type--campaign..campaignid--0..fieldname--id~~

Fess up, admit you're scared when approached by a cop with his hand near his gun.

With good reason!!

nadalfan wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Whatever happened "To protect and to serve?"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/12/3601771/people-police-killed-in-2014/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=tptop3&utm_campaign=tptop3&elq=~~eloqua..type--emailfield..syntax--recipientid~~&elqCampaignId=~~eloqua..type--campaign..campaignid--0..fieldname--id~~

Fess up, admit you're scared when approached by a cop with his hand near his gun.

With good reason!!

It is a bit scary that it can happen to anyone.  I also know there are good cops out there, and some face some pretty difficult situations.  If they held those trigger happy cops accountable and weeded out the bad ones instead of protecting them, this growing distrust would not exist.

2seaoat wrote:Training, appointment of special prosecutors and state wide grand jury, and consistent prosecution of those who shoot unarmed citizens.   The trial will be fair and probably most will be found not guilty, but with training and the reality that negligent actions which harm citizens will have consequences, the numbers will go down.

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Training, appointment of special prosecutors and state wide grand jury, and consistent prosecution of those who shoot unarmed citizens.   The trial will be fair and probably most will be found not guilty, but with training and the reality that negligent actions which harm citizens will have consequences, the numbers will go down.

Good plan ... but who in congress would dare put a bill forward to change the existing corrupt police oversight system?

nadalfan wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Training, appointment of special prosecutors and state wide grand jury, and consistent prosecution of those who shoot unarmed citizens.   The trial will be fair and probably most will be found not guilty, but with training and the reality that negligent actions which harm citizens will have consequences, the numbers will go down.

Good plan ... but who in congress would dare put a bill forward to change the existing corrupt police oversight system?

Wisconsin already passed a law that requires an outside agency to investigates deaths at police hands. Every state should pass that kind of law.
The DOJ is also getting involved. Call me overly optimistic, but I do believe that this time, people are listening.

Wordslinger wrote:Whatever happened "To protect and to serve?"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/12/3601771/people-police-killed-in-2014/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=tptop3&utm_campaign=tptop3&elq=~~eloqua..type--emailfield..syntax--recipientid~~&elqCampaignId=~~eloqua..type--campaign..campaignid--0..fieldname--id~~

Fess up, admit you're scared when approached by a cop with his hand near his gun.

With good reason!!

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Whatever happened "To protect and to serve?"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/12/3601771/people-police-killed-in-2014/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=tptop3&utm_campaign=tptop3&elq=~~eloqua..type--emailfield..syntax--recipientid~~&elqCampaignId=~~eloqua..type--campaign..campaignid--0..fieldname--id~~

Fess up, admit you're scared when approached by a cop with his hand near his gun.

With good reason!!

Bogus.

In the past my good friend and Socialist/Communist Wordslinger has tried to pawn off a list of supposed Islamic Terrorist murders which were not terrorist murders.  His phony list included honor killings which are NOT terrorist attacks.   His list included any crime where a death was involved and one of those involved was Islamic.

Facts are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant to Wordslinger.  He loves anything which damages and hurts AMERICA AND AMERICANS.
Shameful.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:I think if a well armed citizenry were to start seeing THEIR children blown to bits in the process of killing enemies of the state on American soil you would soon have a million or so very angry "terrorists"...

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

He didn't seem too concerned when he charmingly waves at the camera while Eric Garner is on the ground unconscious