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TEOTWAWKI wrote:
raising taxes
othershoe1030 wrote:Yes, the cleaver retort often heard on right wing talk radio is the statement (supposedly based in common sense?) that "a poor man has never given me a job!"
Actually, that's the only person who has ever given anyone a job because if the poor man or middle class family isn't going out and buying things there is no need to hire more people to build more things and that's what runs 70% of our economy.
No amount of "reducing uncertainty" or roll back of "strangling government regulations" will stimulate a company to expand if there is no demand and that comes from the poor and/or middle classes.
othershoe1030 wrote:One thing that would help would be to pay people a living wage so they'd have enough money left over to buy something besides the bare essentials. That is not taking money from the rich it is paying someone a living wage. It worked for Henry Ford. The workers bought his cars, he sold more, the company grew and everyone was getting ahead. what's wrong with that idea?
othershoe1030 wrote:What?
Some do that to be sure but if the middle class only has enough money to get by they can't buy those other things that make the economy grow. Saying what you said is not a solid argument when we know that the 70% of the economy is consumer driven.ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
othershoe1030 wrote:Some do that to be sure but if the middle class only has enough money to get by they can't buy those other things that make the economy grow. Saying what you said is not a solid argument when we know that the 70% of the economy is consumer driven.ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
There is no justification for not paying a living wage for a full time job other than greed on the part of the business owners.
The problem is they are shooting the economy and themselves in the proverbial foot because this practice is undermining the entire economic recovery.
ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
2seaoat wrote:At some point cutting taxes and not paying our bills has a diminishing return. The absurdity of the logic that all we need to do is cut taxes to have prosperity, makes as much sense as a five year old deciding to have nothing but banana splits for food. The truth is that the supply side economics and trickle down has been a disaster for the average american, and they are now being fooled by the idea that some people are getting something for nothing.........yep.....the middle class is being decimated, and too many will vote against their economic interests because they have been fooled like children.........it is a sad day in America when people do not wake up and realize that we all need to be paying more taxes, cutting the size of government, and giving real tax credits for the creation of American jobs.
ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Ghandi, why don't you go look up the time limit for welfare before you stick your foot in your mouth?
ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Ghandi, why don't you go look up the time limit for welfare before you stick your foot in your mouth?
Why don't you? I never needed to. Did you?
Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Ghandi, why don't you go look up the time limit for welfare before you stick your foot in your mouth?
Why don't you? I never needed to. Did you?
I already know but apparently you're not informed enough to know Clinton signed the "Wefare Reform Act" in 1995! !995, Ghandi! Guess what? You can only collect welfare for 5 years max lifetime. Two years at a time.
ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Ghandi, why don't you go look up the time limit for welfare before you stick your foot in your mouth?
Why don't you? I never needed to. Did you?
I already know but apparently you're not informed enough to know Clinton signed the "Wefare Reform Act" in 1995! !995, Ghandi! Guess what? You can only collect welfare for 5 years max lifetime. Two years at a time.
5 is more than the 1 or 2 that I suggested. You ain't very bright, are you?
Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:ghandi wrote:othershoe1030 wrote:What?
What do you think poor people buy? Why do you think they're poor?
They buy lotto scratchers, beer, cigs, dope, and pay child support. That's all.
They don't buy new cars from a certified car dealer or TV's from best buy.
You must have been very poor growing up.You have an enormous disdain for poor people.
I was poor. Ever try to live on E-1 pay with a newborn? I did.
Ever say to yourself that you want a better life and the people that you hang out with won't help you get there? I did.
So if I have no respect for people who can't take advantage of the 100's of programs out there and make their own way, then yes, I hate the poor.
Hand up is one thing but making a career out of being lazy and stupid is another. Welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing should have a time limit. A year or two. Not a lifetime.
Ghandi, why don't you go look up the time limit for welfare before you stick your foot in your mouth?
Why don't you? I never needed to. Did you?
I already know but apparently you're not informed enough to know Clinton signed the "Wefare Reform Act" in 1995! !995, Ghandi! Guess what? You can only collect welfare for 5 years max lifetime. Two years at a time.
5 is more than the 1 or 2 that I suggested. You ain't very bright, are you?
No,you said they collected for a lifetime which is typical of your knowledge about most things. I realize you're not an informed or educated man no matter how much money you brag you have.You should at least try to make statements that are factual.
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