Why does our healthcare cost so much more than every other country's?

In Spain, a hip replacement can be had for $7,000.

Here, the average cost is $40,000.

Our healthcare costs much more than healthcare in countries that provide FREE healthcare to their citizens.

Screw America Inc.!!

Wordslinger wrote:In Spain, a hip replacement can be had for $7,000.

Here, the average cost is $40,000.

Our healthcare costs much more than healthcare in countries that provide FREE healthcare to their citizens.

Screw America Inc.!!

every thing cost more here. We dont have a socialist or communist country where prices are fixed and we can use slave labor to help lower cost.

But dont worry. we are going to make sure we get slave labor at a lower cost, then fix those prices by government control, then reduce services and take away your free will. Then all will be equally miserable except the filthy rich

Chrissy has become an apologist for the 1% who have used the health care of American citizens as another profit center. She thinks all healthcare in Every country in the world is inferior. She thinks big Pharm making a trillion over the next ten years with inflated prices over what drugs are sold for in Canada and Western Europe is because those healthcare systems are inferior. She believes that sick people ALWAYS are a second consideration to the 1% making obscene profits off sick people. Why do other nations have better health care and lower prices........because those nations find it obscene to profit on illness and the care of its citizens..........there are simple and common sense solutions which will make those who profit in blood sad, but will make Americans celebrate.

Yep things costs more here because we actually have a standard of living

The European Union countries you use as an example are near bankrupt

PACEDOG#1 wrote:The European Union countries you use as an example are near bankrupt

And we are not? 

Have we declared insolvency like Greece and other EU states along the Med?

Chrissy* wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:In Spain, a hip replacement can be had for $7,000.

Here, the average cost is $40,000.

Our healthcare costs much more than healthcare in countries that provide FREE healthcare to their citizens.

Screw America Inc.!!

every thing cost more here. We dont have a socialist or communist country where prices are fixed and we can use slave labor to help lower cost.

But dont worry. we are going to make sure we get slave labor at a lower cost, then fix those prices by government control, then reduce services and take away your free will. Then all will be equally miserable except the filthy rich

Fact: Spain is a democracy and the standard of living is high. Norway and Sweden and the Netherlands have overall healthcare costs less than 40% of those of the U.S. They are also democracies, with a much higher standard of living (and better education too) than the U.S. Reality.



You right wing wingnuts need to change your news input to another channel.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:The European Union countries you use as an example are near bankrupt

Bullshit, lies and ignorance.

How bout Australia and Japan.  I don't think they're communist.
They spend less than half what we do per capita on health care.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_%28PPP%29_per_capita

Not in any other economic endeavor would we accept that one thing is double the price,  and everything else is half the price or less.
If one bottle of ketchup was $2 and every other brand was $1,  that $2 ketchup would disappear from the market.  But our double priced health care is a monopoly.  lol

2seaoat wrote:Chrissy has become an apologist for the 1% who have used the health care of American citizens as another profit center.  She thinks all healthcare in Every country in the world is inferior.   She thinks big Pharm making a trillion over the next ten years with inflated prices over what drugs are sold for in Canada and Western Europe is because those healthcare systems are inferior.  She believes that sick people ALWAYS are a second consideration to the 1% making obscene profits off sick people.  Why do other nations have better health care and lower prices........because those nations find it obscene to profit on illness and the care of its citizens..........there are simple and common sense solutions which will make those who profit in blood sad, but will make Americans celebrate.

No, I do not support the 1%. That would be those pushing QE and allowing Insurance companies bailouts for bribes to make a good show for a failed plan.

I am for the working class person who is involved with providing health CARE. And I know the effects of squeezed staff who are not equipped with the best equipment or talent because of cost.

Obama is clever an Ive always said this. Because he pushed back a bunch of stuff ILLEGALLY BTW, so as to not effect the dems precious elections.

But as the employer mandate starts and the ins bailouts end, so will the reduced Medicaid payments from the feds to states who expanded.

2017

But I personally already see the effects.

I know major hospitals that have shifted many of their staff to PRN and PT. And the hiring of more "low skilled" workers being weaved into the system. This to me is not acceptable because I have the highest of standards.

You and many here however, live in unicorn world where you think you insert a insurance card in a hole and out pops great CARE....

Here America....put Chrissy's two buck ketchup on your burger and hold your nose........for a buck less and better quality......I think I want some of that European Ketchup......admit it Chrissy....you are a union shill for a broken healthcare system, and you and the Macburgler are teaming up to screw America. Where is Ronald Mac when you need him?

2seaoat wrote:Here America....put Chrissy's two buck ketchup on your burger and hold your nose........for a buck less and better quality......I think I want some of that European Ketchup......admit it Chrissy....you are a union shill for a broken healthcare system, and you and the Macburgler are teaming up to screw America.  Where is Ronald Mac when you need him?

Our system isn't broken.

well it wasn't until you unicorns started crapping on it.

but I understand, anything that isn't FREE, is broke to you GOV loons

Where other than health care did we allow a monopoly double digit inflation for twenty years, and to listen to you bitch because folks are gouging the American Public........the two buck ketchup is done.....your failed world is done.......in 2018 we will begin the path to sanity. Medicaid for all.

2seaoat wrote:Where other than health care did we allow a monopoly double digit inflation for twenty years, and to listen to you bitch because folks are gouging the American Public........the two buck ketchup is done.....your failed world is done.......in 2018 we will begin the path to sanity.  Medicaid for all.

LMAO

You guys get funnier and funnier lolololololololol

I guess ignorance is bliss

Chrissy* wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Where other than health care did we allow a monopoly double digit inflation for twenty years, and to listen to you bitch because folks are gouging the American Public........the two buck ketchup is done.....your failed world is done.......in 2018 we will begin the path to sanity.  Medicaid for all.

LMAO

You guys get funnier and funnier lolololololololol

I guess ignorance is bliss

You should know.

Floridatexan wrote:

Chrissy* wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Where other than health care did we allow a monopoly double digit inflation for twenty years, and to listen to you bitch because folks are gouging the American Public........the two buck ketchup is done.....your failed world is done.......in 2018 we will begin the path to sanity.  Medicaid for all.

LMAO

You guys get funnier and funnier lolololololololol

I guess ignorance is bliss

You should know.

I know it when I see it. So yes I know. And I see a lot of it here.

America will have universal health care within five years. It may be implemented over time, but it is coming and it will save trillions.

2seaoat wrote:America will have universal health care within five years.  It may be implemented over time, but it is coming and it will save trillions.

NO IT WONT

How much has obamacare saved LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

a dime?

Billions and more coming as it expands.....pay attention to the midterms....they were supposed to be a referendum on the ACA until Republicans gave a big oooops six months ago.....America likes it.

2seaoat wrote:Billions and more coming as it expands.....pay attention to the midterms....they were supposed to be a referendum on the ACA until Republicans gave a big oooops six months ago.....America likes it.

LOL America doesn't like it.

btw

http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/14/hospitals/index.html

and

even in California, obamacare favorability DOWN

46 percent harbor unfavorable opinions
Meanwhile, of the 1 in 5 who said they have been harmed by the law, more than half reported it led to higher costs while about 20 percent say it made it more difficult to get coverage.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/09/23/6730622/poll-obamacare-support-sliding.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/09/23/6730622/poll-obamacare-support-sliding.html

the same thing occurring in all states.

Why don't you think MSM is not all over it?

because its NOT GOOD

dims are NOT running on it

maybe they are the only ones who can afford it in this economy

California...I am shocked...SHOCKED I SAY!

From Rasmussen...a NATIONAL survey.

Voters Still Expect Health Care System to Suffer Under Obamacare
Monday,
September 22, 2014

Voters continue to give lackluster reviews to the U.S. health care system despite positive opinions of their own insurance coverage and care. Half still think the system will get worse under the new health care law.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 32% of Likely U.S. Voters rate the nation’s health care system as good or excellent. Just as many (32%) give it poor marks, up from 29% in August but still below the 35% who felt that way in June. (To see survey question wording, click here)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, really the gold standard when it comes to polling and information about health care coverage and especially about the uninsured, systematically reports how health insurance coverage has changed since the implementation of the ACA. Six in 10 people who now have coverage through the ACA previously were uninsured, according to another Kaiser survey. The number of Americans without insurance is dropping. In states that expanded Medicaid, even more people have coverage. The people who are left the worst off are poor people living in states without Medicaid expansion.

And what about health care costs? Again, the news from the implementation of the ACA is positive. There are many factors that affect health care costs, but growth in Medicare and Medicaid costs has slowed. The projections from a report by Social Security and Medicare trustees about the future of Medicare have improved — the fund is expected to be solvent until 2030. The ACA is projected to cut $716 billion in expected increases to providers and insurers between 2013 and 2022.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/04/1319121/-Americans-like-Obamacare-They-just-don-t-know-it#

As the article states many people are ignorant about the law. They did a poor job in promoting this but as time goes on the approval will increase dramatically and the American people will embrace it like medicare and social security. Guarantee it.

What we've established thus far on this subject, is that America's standard of living is below that of the majority of western European countries that offer free healthcare.

Which, of course, demolishes the idiotic initial responses of Chrissy and Pacedog, desperately trying to justify why a hip replacement in Spain costs $7,000 and the same procedure here carries a $40,000 price tag.

Eliminating standard of living as an excuse for unconscionable patient gauging, maybe someone else can explain why our healthcare costs are so high ...

While your at it, tell us why a month's supply of Lipitor costs $7.00 in New Zealand and more than $90 here. Same drug. Same manufacturer.

Part of the real answer: The drug companies and medical equipment companies have bought of legislators and have established a monopoly -- one that, among other things, prevents State and Federal government from negotiating better pricing through open bidding.

Screw America Inc.!