U.S. Healthcare system ranks dead last

Dreamsglore wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Ti wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
-Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)

perfect. give them more ideas, now they will want to live like the French. Oh wait most of them already do. I hear lots of liberals don't shave or wear deodorant just like the French don't lol

I take your references to "liberals" as direct personal attacks.  I really don't give a damn if I offend you.  I find you narrow minded, bigoted, and ignorant.

That's all? Don't forget she lives w/ an alien too. Can we say bipolarmama?

Dreamsglore wrote:We know who you are. The barn door's been open a long time.

Floridatexan wrote:Nope.  We can't even come close to debating the fine points of governance when people are constantly trying to demean the President and "conservatives".  Some people, whose ideology I don't exactly share can actually define their positions and provide some type of reasoning to justify them.  Others just work for the DNC and state whatever they're told to say.  And some just parrot what they hear.  

ppaca wrote:

Ti wrote:awe, a left wing group does a survey on how much we spend on healthcare and all of a sudden we have poor healthcare instead of just expensive healthcare, two different things might I add.

People love to go to the doctor in this country, especially to get pain pills.

But I have a idea. Why don't we get rid of our healthcare system and let the mother fucking politicians and insurance salesmen wipe your asses.

Not a left wing group:

The Commonwealth Fund is a private nonpartisan foundation that supports independent research on health and social issues and makes grants to improve ...

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Markle wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Chrissy I don't think too many people begrudge the actual care givers and support techs. It's those damned CEOs and administrators that make such a killing poorly running hospital services to maximize their profits.

Before you make that statement, you need to check to see how many of our hospitals are NON-PROFIT.  You may be surprised.

It's easy to make a hospital non profit..you just pay the Administrators any extra profit...

Ti wrote:Hey FT

That paperwork your daughter has to do is called " documentation"

And it's required by the government regulatory agencies and insurances to get paid for services

It's always been part of healthcare now under Obamacare it's MUCH worse

Sorry your daughter doesn't feel like she can handle it

It's hard out here

Gunz wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:Nope.  We can't even come close to debating the fine points of governance when people are constantly trying to demean the President and "conservatives".  Some people, whose ideology I don't exactly share can actually define their positions and provide some type of reasoning to justify them.  Others just work for the DNC and state whatever they're told to say.  And some just parrot what they hear.  

 Fixed it for ya. works both ways

Floridatexan wrote:

Ti wrote:Hey FT

That paperwork your daughter has to do is called " documentation"

And it's required by the government regulatory agencies and insurances to get paid for services

It's always been part of healthcare now under Obamacare it's MUCH worse

Sorry your daughter doesn't feel like she can handle it

It's hard out here

There is documentation and there is overkill.  I'm sorry the distinction escapes you.

ppaca wrote:http://www.benefitspro.com/2014/06/16/us-health-care-system-ranks-dead-last?eNL=53a08585160ba08c033e54be&utm_source=BenefitsBrokerPro&utm_medium=eNL&utm_campaign=BenefitsPro_eNLs&_LID=80597255

Despite having the most expensive health care system, the United States ranks dead last in the quality of its health care system when compared with 10 other western, industrialized nations, according to new analysis out Monday.

“The U.S. performance on insurance coverage and access to care should begin to improve, particularly for low-income Americans,” Davis said. “[PPACA is] expanding the availability and quality of primary care, which should help all Americans have better care and better health outcomes at lower cost.”

Floridatexan wrote:

Gunz wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:Nope.  We can't even come close to debating the fine points of governance when people are constantly trying to demean the President and "conservatives".  Some people, whose ideology I don't exactly share can actually define their positions and provide some type of reasoning to justify them.  Others just work for the DNC and state whatever they're told to say.  And some just parrot what they hear.  

 Fixed it for ya. works both ways

It might work both ways if the GOP hadn't shown it's cards early on in the game, if you get my drift...and if the last GOP president hadn't been such a complete disaster for the country.  Which is a huge reason no member of your party will see the White House for, hopefully, as long as I live...and my children live, and my grandchildren live.  Are you a card-carrying Republican or just a right-wing fringer?

Floridatexan wrote:

One might wish that a person engaged in delivering health care have a minimum of a high school education.  Sadly, that appears not to be the case.

Floridatexan wrote:

I take your references to "liberals" as direct personal attacks.  I really don't give a damn if I offend you.  I find you narrow minded, bigoted, and ignorant.

Dreamsglore wrote:We know who you are. The barn door's been open a long time.

Ti wrote:Hey FT

That paperwork your daughter has to do is called " documentation"

And it's required by the government regulatory agencies and insurances to get paid for services

It's always been part of healthcare now under Obamacare it's MUCH worse

Sorry your daughter doesn't feel like she can handle it

It's hard out here

Gunz wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:Nope.  We can't even come close to debating the fine points of governance when people are constantly trying to demean the President and "conservatives".  Some people, whose ideology I don't exactly share can actually define their positions and provide some type of reasoning to justify them.  Others just work for the DNC and state whatever they're told to say.  And some just parrot what they hear.  

 Fixed it for ya. works both ways

Markle wrote:

ppaca wrote:

Ti wrote:awe, a left wing group does a survey on how much we spend on healthcare and all of a sudden we have poor healthcare instead of just expensive healthcare, two different things might I add.

People love to go to the doctor in this country, especially to get pain pills.

But I have a idea. Why don't we get rid of our healthcare system and let the mother fucking politicians and insurance salesmen wipe your asses.

Not a left wing group:

The Commonwealth Fund is a private nonpartisan foundation that supports independent research on health and social issues and makes grants to improve ...

Oh give us all a break.  Even you couldn't say that with a straight face.

An example would be their former head of the Commonwealth Fund was Karen Davis.  She stepped down at the end of 2012.  Karen Davis, is a Jimmy Carter leftover and self-identified “progressive” economist who has long peddled single payer. Her 2009 annual report proclaims:

The Commonwealth Fund marshaled its resources this year to produce timely and rigorous work that helped lay the groundwork for the historic Affordable Care Act, signed by President Obama in March 2010.

You're fellow far left Progressives will willingly swallow that swill, but no one who looks at the FACTS will look twice.

Ti wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

Ti wrote:Hey FT

That paperwork your daughter has to do is called " documentation"

And it's required by the government regulatory agencies and insurances to get paid for services

It's always been part of healthcare now under Obamacare it's MUCH worse

Sorry your daughter doesn't feel like she can handle it

It's hard out here

There is documentation and there is overkill.  I'm sorry the distinction escapes you.

Actually, you don't get to make that distinction. I understand that way more than you or your daughter.

While you and her whine about it being overkill, it doesn't make one damn bit of difference what you whine about, ITS THE LAW. And there are way more of those little inconveniences now under obamacare than there was before.

I am laughing my ass off at you right now because now your daughter cant handle the heat of all this extra damn strangulation regulation and she wants to quit. I suppose I should have sympathy and I do for other people in that situation, because I am a advocate of patients first. But

Ti wrote:Yes I  do

And if you think having to do documentation is something staff doesn't do then i highly doubt you've ever been in any hospital position

Now get back to whining be aide your man has created a law that has increased that documentation part of all of our jobs due to consolidation of staff and more regulations

Floridatexan wrote:

Ti wrote:Yes I  do

And if you think having to do documentation is something staff doesn't do then i highly doubt you've ever been in any hospital position

Now get back to whining be aide your man has created a law that has increased that documentation part of all of our jobs due to consolidation of staff and more regulations

Again, you are stupid beyond belief.  I never said documentation wasn't required.  And if Florida is having problems (which I know to be the case), it's because Scott refused to expand Medicaid, which would have covered virtually everyone and eased the burden on non-profit hospitals.

Floridatexan wrote:

Ti wrote:Yes I  do

And if you think having to do documentation is something staff doesn't do then i highly doubt you've ever been in any hospital position

Now get back to whining be aide your man has created a law that has increased that documentation part of all of our jobs due to consolidation of staff and more regulations

Again, you are stupid beyond belief.  I never said documentation wasn't required.  And if Florida is having problems (which I know to be the case), it's because Scott refused to expand Medicaid, which would have covered virtually everyone and eased the burden on non-profit hospitals.