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What happened to the middle class?

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Much to the delight of Herr Markle and his Robber Baron friends, we got screwed.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/23492-elizabeth-warren-what-happened-to-the-middle-class

It's time for payback!

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Actually it's where all the other people's money was coming from for progressive social programs...alas


“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Oh and beginning with Clinton all our middle class making manufacturing jobs were sent to Mexico and China...that sucking sound Perot spoke of...

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You just have to love QE. No 

And a economy that isn't compatible with creating middle class jobs.
 
Welcome to unicorn world results.

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Guest

Liberals ..... Sucking the economy dry

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Liberals ..... Sucking the economy dry

No sweetheart -- it isn't the cost of welfare or social programs that broke the middle class. Cast your bad eyes in the direction of multi-national corporations who keep zillions of profits overseas to avoid paying taxes.

Our problem is that you and all the republican whores in Washington want to strangle the poor in favor of the Robber Barons.

And the writing's on the wall kiddo -- it's going to take more than big money to win the coming elections.

We saw that when Romney lost.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:Much to the delight of Herr Markle and his Robber Baron friends, we got screwed.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/23492-elizabeth-warren-what-happened-to-the-middle-class

It's time for payback!

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

What happened to the middle class? ElizabethWarren_zps75f20dc9

Reliable source! She also wrote the bogus "study" which supposedly showed that more people were going bankrupt from medical bills than anything else.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Actually it's where all the other people's money was coming from for progressive social programs...alas


“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Oh and beginning with Clinton all our middle class making manufacturing jobs were sent to Mexico and China...that sucking sound Perot spoke of...

http://withoutwriting.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-death-of-a-murderous-fraud/

Good readers, step right up! Listen if you will to the tumult of supine, servile, utterly vomitive tributes to the recently deceased Maggie in the mainstream media today.

Marvel at the astonishingly convenient forgetfulness of myriad toffee-nosed hacks as they trample riotously over the graves of the British manufacturing base, public services and- literally- working people in their rush to praise this dear departed demoness; wonder at the sheer gall of the crypto-fascist swine that form orderly, oinking queues to take turns stepping into the spotlight and raising a glass to their moral and political idol… Thrill to the sight of roving gangs of neo-conservatives  slapping down any dissent or deviation from the party line!

In the news today, Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (from 1979 to 1990) has passed away. Bereft of life, she rests in peace. This, is, an ex-premiere.

Now, I could wax (on and wax off) lyrical about who Margaret Thatcher really was. I could explore the fact that despite her regularly wheeled out piffle about being a grocer’s daughter she was in fact brought up as a relatively priveliged right-wing zealot of an unremarkable sort… one who would not have made any impact in the world were it not for the fact that she married a millionaire who financed her insane ambition to plunge our nation back into the dark ages from whence it crawled.

But someone has done it better here: Death of a Class Warrior by Tom Mills

I could talk about how her legacy is a combination of producing two ghastly overly-monied children (one literal criminal, one obvious racist), waging a war for votes , gleefully snuggling up to some of the most horrific and murderous regimes the earth has ever SEEN (the  Khmer Rouge and Augusto Pinochet, to name but two), persecuting gay folk, and demolishing the lives of several generations of Britain’s poor people (an act continuing to this day).

But you know all that already, surely.

Instead, why don’t I talk about the fact that Thatcher represented the dark side of human nature. Whenever someone barges in front of you in a queue, that’s Thatcherism. Whenever someone mugs another person for their mobile phone, that’s Thatcherism. Whenever someone manipulates others for personal gain, that’s Thatcherism. Thatcher was very much about selfishness, ego and contempt for the rights of others. Her concept of “freedom” was a hellish one indeed: Freedom to Thatcher was freedom to take whatever you wanted, from whomever you were capable of victimizing.

Everyone you’ll ever have to defend yourself from in your life… is a little bit of a Thatcher.

As for the comment in the press… Hack journos often wrongly accuse a man as blameless as Noam Chomsky of crimes as nefarious as supporting the Khmer Rouge. But this is someone who ACTUALLY DID support the Khmer Rouge. You wouldn’t know it from the coverage today. One of history’s greatest monsters is dead. You wouldn’t be made aware of this simple fact by reading, watching or listening to the mainstream media. As ever, by disguising the crimes of the powerful, journalists make themselves complicit in those crimes.

These fawning media moral vacuums disgust me. They should disgust you too. They should disgust themselves.

I’ll finish with the sentiments of several people who have dared to speak the truth at a time when the professed sanctity of one woman’s death is used as a bludgeon to silence the truth.

Gerry Adams: “Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people”
Lindsey German: “Margaret Thatcher laid the basis for policies which wrecked the lives of millions in Britain. But she should also be remembered as a warmonger.”
Frankie Boyle: “Thatcher being dead is a lot less tragic than Cameron being alive”
Ken Livingstone: “It’s a tragedy she ever came to power”
Peter Tatchell: “she showed no empathy for the victims of her harsh, ruthless policy decisions”
George Galloway:  “Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a “terrorist”. I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in the hellfires”
(edit)
Mark Steel: “Thanks to everyone who’s asked over the last two days, but I’m bearing up despite the news and managing to soldier on.”
Russell Brand: “Her death must be sad for the handful of people she was nice to and the rich people who got richer under her stewardship. It isn’t sad for anyone else.”
(/edit)

But perhaps the most incisive line was from Paul Kenny, a union leader (GMB):

“Her legacy involves the destruction of communities, the elevation of personal greed over social values and legitimising the exploitation of the weak by the strong.”

This is what was wrong with Thatcher. This is what is wrong with her devotees, and successors (i.e: most mainstream politicians and virtually all mainstream journalists). When the strong make a creed of dominating the weak, that’s what we call… that’s what we SHOULD call…

“Evil”.

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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

All that because of a little quote that is true no matter who said it ? Petty..very petty. Where the hell do progressives think money comes from ? Their stupid little give a ways will always bankrupt a nation without that nation having a strong hard working middle class. Government can't just crap boat loads of ink and paper and call it money forever...I hope it hits the fan soon and you petty little tyrant's get a face full of reality.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Much to the delight of Herr Markle and his Robber Baron friends, we got screwed.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/23492-elizabeth-warren-what-happened-to-the-middle-class

It's time for payback!

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

What happened to the middle class? ElizabethWarren_zps75f20dc9

Reliable source!  She also wrote the bogus "study" which supposedly showed that more people were going bankrupt from medical bills than anything else.


Oh, look...photoshop. She obviously scares you to death. Why don't you read her work? Oh, I forgot about your lack of comprehension skills.

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Liberals ..... Sucking the economy dry

No sweetheart -- it isn't the cost of welfare or social programs that broke the middle class. Cast your bad eyes in the direction of multi-national corporations who keep zillions of profits overseas to avoid paying taxes.

Our problem is that you and all the republican whores in Washington want to strangle the poor in favor of the Robber Barons.

And the writing's on the wall kiddo -- it's going to take more than big money to win the coming elections.

We saw that when Romney lost.


Corporate tax is just a way to fool liberals into a consumption tax. It works so well that the reality totally escapes you.

It should also surprise no one that when we allow our representatives unfettered contact with monied interests that their oaths are corrupted. We the people will never have real opportunity under this collusion of govt, military, banking, corps.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

TEOTWAWKI wrote:All that because of a little quote that is true no matter who said it ?  Petty..very petty. Where the hell do progressives think money comes from ? Their stupid little give a ways will always bankrupt a nation without that nation having a strong hard working middle class. Government can't just crap boat loads of ink and paper and call it money forever...I hope it hits the fan soon and you petty little tyrant's get a face full of reality.

No, your "little quote" is not true. It's the face of what's gone wrong in this country, and I'm not going to stand for any more of the lies. What almost led our country into bankruptcy was Bush's tax cuts and Bush's "Holy Wars" of aggression. HE was the "petty little tyrant". I agree with your assessment that we need a strong, hard-working middle class. Unfortunately, you're ignoring the real reasons for that decline.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Floridatexan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:All that because of a little quote that is true no matter who said it ?  Petty..very petty. Where the hell do progressives think money comes from ? Their stupid little give a ways will always bankrupt a nation without that nation having a strong hard working middle class. Government can't just crap boat loads of ink and paper and call it money forever...I hope it hits the fan soon and you petty little tyrant's get a face full of reality.

No, your "little quote" is not true.  It's the face of what's gone wrong in this country, and I'm not going to stand for any more of the lies.  What almost led our country into bankruptcy was Bush's tax cuts and Bush's "Holy Wars" of aggression.  HE was the "petty little tyrant".  I agree with your assessment that we need a strong, hard-working middle class.  Unfortunately, you're ignoring the real reasons for that decline.  

It's amazing how blind you are in your partisan cheer-leading. It pains me to say you are terminally ill politically speaking.  There is no good party ..sure warfare has exhausted our resources but so equally has welfare.

Obama was on watch as many more of our jobs went to China and he shut down our power companies and is placing a huge burden on the poor with higher energy costs...like Pkr says.. the useful idiots cheer their own demise...

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Much to the delight of Herr Markle and his Robber Baron friends, we got screwed.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/23492-elizabeth-warren-what-happened-to-the-middle-class

It's time for payback!

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

What happened to the middle class? ElizabethWarren_zps75f20dc9

Reliable source!  She also wrote the bogus "study" which supposedly showed that more people were going bankrupt from medical bills than anything else.


Oh, look...photoshop.  She obviously scares you to death.  Why don't you read her work?  Oh, I forgot about your lack of comprehension skills.


I did read her "work".  It was a snow job of the first degree.

She has openly lied for decades. She used those lies to advance her career. Why is that a good thing? Why would that frighten anyone and why would you believe what she says?

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan, how is this NOT a fact?

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Was the economy better at the end of the Reagan administration than it is today? Was the economy better, at this point in the Bush administration or now during the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama?

How many people are NOT working today who were in the past?

Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Liberals ..... Sucking the economy dry

No sweetheart -- it isn't the cost of welfare or social programs that broke the middle class.  Cast your bad eyes in the direction of multi-national corporations who keep zillions of profits overseas to avoid paying taxes.

Our problem is that you and all the republican whores in Washington want to strangle the poor in favor of the Robber Barons.

And the writing's on the wall kiddo -- it's going to take more than big money to win the coming elections.

We saw that when Romney lost.


Corporate tax is just a way to fool liberals into a consumption tax. It works so well that the reality totally escapes you.

It should also surprise no one that when we allow our representatives unfettered contact with monied interests that their oaths are corrupted. We the people will never have real opportunity under this collusion of govt, military, banking, corps.


We are in complete accord on this issue!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Floridatexan,  how is this NOT a fact?

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Was the economy better at the end of the Reagan administration than it is today?  Was the economy better, at this point in the Bush administration or now during the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama?

How many people are NOT working today who were in the past?

Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?

[size=18]Right, why help your country when costs bucks? Fuck Americans!

Golly, Herr Markle and I are almost agreeing, I say: Screw Amerika Inc.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Floridatexan,  how is this NOT a fact?

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Was the economy better at the end of the Reagan administration than it is today?  Was the economy better, at this point in the Bush administration or now during the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama?

How many people are NOT working today who were in the past?

Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?

[size=18]Right, why help your country when costs bucks?  Fuck Americans!

Golly, Herr Markle and I are almost agreeing, I say:  Screw Amerika Inc.

Why give money to a government which squanders and wastes money like it grows on trees?

You're hatred of America is well known.  Why?  Who knows?  I do pity you though. Anyone so filled with hate for a country who gave them so much is, indeed, sad and pathetic.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Floridatexan,  how is this NOT a fact?

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

Was the economy better at the end of the Reagan administration than it is today?  Was the economy better, at this point in the Bush administration or now during the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama?

How many people are NOT working today who were in the past?

Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?

[size=18]Right, why help your country when costs bucks?  Fuck Americans!

Golly, Herr Markle and I are almost agreeing, I say:  Screw Amerika Inc.

Why give money to a government which squanders and wastes money like it grows on trees?

You're hatred of America is well known.  Why?  Who knows?  I do pity you though.  Anyone so filled with hate for a country who gave them so much is, indeed, sad and pathetic.


I don't hate America, Herr Markle, I hate you and the Robber Barons ... and it's clear by your attempt to avoid responding to my factual charge against huge corps keeping their money overseas and screwing Americans at the same time, that you've let your bosses down again ....

What I hate, Herr Markle, is Amerika Inc. The Amerika you love so much -- where the government is owned outright by the oligarchy.

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

Reality.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Herr Markle's justification for huge American corporations keeping their billkions of profits overseas in order to avoid paying taxes. The result, of course, is that we have to get along without that tax income, and America is made to suffer. It's Herr Markle and his Robber Barons who not only hate Americans, but are laughing as our middle class is decimated. Here's Herr Markle's own words on the issue:

"Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?"

Why indeed! I hate Amerika Inc. Markle hates America!

Guest


Guest

Obama promised to renegotiate nafta and other trade agreements... but then he promised alot of shit.

Yea team..!!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Obama promised to renegotiate nafta and other trade agreements... but then he promised alot of shit.

Yea team..!!

You keep falling back on the party vs. party bullshit. Nobody's happy with Obama's promises, not the left or the right.

Still, do you think for a moment under Romney we would see NAFTA and other trade agreements modified? Hardly!

Elizabeth Warren ... you've got my vote baby!

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:Herr Markle's justification for huge American corporations keeping their billkions of profits overseas in order to avoid paying taxes.  The result, of course, is that we have to get along without that tax income, and America is made to suffer.  It's Herr Markle and his Robber Barons who not only hate Americans, but are laughing as our middle class is decimated.  Here's Herr Markle's own words on the issue:  

"Why would you bring money you earned in another country home and pay the highest corporate tax in the world when you can save and spend it in those other countries?"

Why indeed!  I hate Amerika Inc.  Markle hates America!

What happened to the middle class? HystericallyLaughingmanandboy

Your desperation is becoming a joke.

Why give money to a government which squanders and wastes money like it grows on trees?

You're hatred of America is well known. Why? Who knows? I do pity you though. Anyone so filled with hate for a country who gave them so much is, indeed, sad and pathetic.

Markle

Markle

Here's what happened to the middle class. President Barack Hussein Obama's war on Women and the Middle Class. Make them dependent on the government, you know, like your Socialist/Communist goal.

What happened to the middle class? Womenq6andOlderNotinLaborForce_zpsaa3e92d6

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ZVUGKTUBM

Poster Markle: "...Why give money to a government which squanders and wastes money like it grows on trees?..."

But Markle is okay with big government's spending, so long as it squanders the money on things he approves of, such as the Military Industrial Complex, military invasions of sovereign countries which get in our way, etc., and all of the trappings that go with that.....

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by Floridatexan Yesterday at 4:02 pm
TEOTWAWKI wrote:
“
All that because of a little quote that is true no matter who said it ? Petty..very petty. Where the hell do progressives think money comes from ? Their stupid little give a ways will always bankrupt a nation without that nation having a strong hard working middle class. Government can't just crap boat loads of ink and paper and call it money forever...I hope it hits the fan soon and you petty little tyrant's get a face full of reality.
”
No, your "little quote" is not true. It's the face of what's gone wrong in this country, and I'm not going to stand for any more of the lies. What almost led our country into bankruptcy was Bush's tax cuts and Bush's "Holy Wars" of aggression. HE was the "petty little tyrant". I agree with your assessment that we need a strong, hard-working middle class. Unfortunately, you're ignoring the real reasons for that decline.
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And now Obama is taxing the middle class right off the cliff.

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