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No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush

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Markle

Markle

NO BOMBSHELL: Afghanistan-Iraq Vets Prefer George W. Bush over Obama by Two to One Ratio

Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, March 30, 2014,

This won't come as a surprise to anyone, not even our far left Progressive friends. Respect begets respect.

Buried deep in the lengthy article by Post reporter Rajiv Chandrasekaran, who spent two years in Iraq as the Post’s bureau chief, is this bombshell:

“When it comes to their most-senior commander, the vets decisively prefer George W. Bush to Obama. Only a third approve of the way Obama is handling his job, and 42 percent of them think he has been a good commander in chief despite his decisions to bring troops home from Iraq, wind down the war in Afghanistan and increase resources for veterans. By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief.

“Their views of the two presidents appear to be shaped less by political affiliation than by concern over the Obama administration’s plans to reduce the size of the military, trim benefits for future service members and curtail the purchase of some costly new weapons systems. Nearly half of vets regard themselves as political independents. Among those who identify with a party, the Republican-Democratic split is only 27 percent to 17 percent.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/03/29/a-legacy-of-pride-and-pain/

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

"...By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief...."

George W. Bush's finest moment!

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Ex-President-George-Bush-reading-My-Pet-Goat

Reading 'My Pet Goat' as the worst terrorist mass-killing in world history was underway on American soil.

That one kind of out-does the 'Fatal Islamic Attacks' meme that poster Markle likes to periodically lay on everyone (blaming Democrats, of course). Rolling Eyes

And of course, Markle is citing from a blog that is associated with the Washington Post; not anything that was actually published in that newspaper.  Razz

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"...By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief...."

George W. Bush's finest moment!

Reading 'My Pet Goat' as the worst terrorist mass-killing in world history was underway on American soil.

That one kind of out-does the 'Fatal Islamic Attacks' meme that poster Markle likes to periodically lay on everyone (blaming Democrats, of course).

And of course, Markle is citing from a blog that is associated with the Washington Post; not anything that was actually published in that newspaper.

You're making a joke of yourself. As you well know, President George Walker Bush waited 10 minutes after being told that A plane had struck the World Trade Center. Whereupon he left, went to the airport and was in the air within minutes.

PLEASE, share with us where President Barack Hussein Obama was while the attack on Benghazi was being carried out. Where was he? What was he doing? That's a question President Obama, and his staff, have refused to answer.

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Benghazi_cloud_white_house_10-28-12-2

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"...By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief...."

George W. Bush's finest moment!

Reading 'My Pet Goat' as the worst terrorist mass-killing in world history was underway on American soil.

That one kind of out-does the 'Fatal Islamic Attacks' meme that poster Markle likes to periodically lay on everyone (blaming Democrats, of course).

And of course, Markle is citing from a blog that is associated with the Washington Post; not anything that was actually published in that newspaper.

And of course, ZVUGKTUBM, once again, doesn't do his homework in his rush to denigrate me. That's okay, I love the respect he has for me.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/03/30/National-Politics/Polling/release_305.xml

As ZVUGKTUBM also knows is that the Washington Post is a far left leaning publication.

Keep up the good work!

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

You're making a joke of yourself.
 
I know you are, Markle. This whole thread is nothing but a joke!!!!!!
 
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No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Ha_ha_18



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knothead

knothead

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:You're making a joke of yourself.

I know you are, Markle. This whole thread ia nothing but a joke!!!!!!

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Ha_ha_18
No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Ha_ha_18

AMEN . . . . back to the game! Basketball Basketball Basketball 

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Get real Herr Markle: Vets who volunteered to fight, get maimed or die for Bush's WMD claims were taken in, the same as all of us. Of course they prefer Bush -- if they turned on Bush it would mean their sacrifice was horribly meaningless -- which it was. Maybe that accounts for the unprecedented rise in Vets who take their own lives.

They went off to war believing they were doing something meaningful and doubly patriotic for America. When they returned they knew their efforts were meaningless. America was no safer, and the roll our troops were forced to play was that of a hated occupying force in a country where some of the people were enemy, and others were not.

Afghanistan is no better. Are our troops brave and patriotic? Of course. Are they politically sophisticated -- of course not. Most are between the ages of 19 and 25 -- what should we expect of their political judgement acuity?

Yet, in his zeal to find some new way to insult our most recent president, Herr Markle can't pass up the opportunity to use our veterans as his foil. He wants us to believe that their postwar political acumen and intellectual ability to judge presidents is somehow profound and worthwhile.

Thanks Markle for another perfect example of just how shallow you really are.

Reality.

What else would you expect from a pro-Nazi agent of plutocracy?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"...By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief...."

George W. Bush's finest moment!

Reading 'My Pet Goat' as the worst terrorist mass-killing in world history was underway on American soil.

That one kind of out-does the 'Fatal Islamic Attacks' meme that poster Markle likes to periodically lay on everyone (blaming Democrats, of course).

And of course, Markle is citing from a blog that is associated with the Washington Post; not anything that was actually published in that newspaper.

You're making a joke of yourself.  As you well know, President George Walker Bush waited 10 minutes after being told that A plane had struck the World Trade Center.  Whereupon he left, went to the airport and was in the air within minutes.

PLEASE, share with us where President Barack Hussein Obama was while the attack on Benghazi was being carried out.  Where was he?  What was he doing?  That's a question President Obama, and his staff, have refused to answer.

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Benghazi_cloud_white_house_10-28-12-2

Now we're supposed to equate the attack on Benghazi with the Twin Tower disaster.  Benghazi 4, Twin Tower 2,000 +.  And Bush's revenge, foisted upon Iraq (who had nothing to do with 9-11) instead of Saudi Arabia where most all the hijackers came from, and all the money that financed their operation. That Bush fiasco brought us another 4,000 dead Americans.

By body count alone, give me Obama any day!

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:You're making a joke of yourself.

I know you are, Markle. This whole thread ia nothing but a joke!!!!!!

Interesting...but not surprising. Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Pathetic

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Benghazi 4, Twin Tower 2,000 +
 
I think it was more like 3,000+....

No worries, the CIC (Bush) was at the helm, hands firmly on the tiller.....  Embarassed 

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Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"...By contrast, nearly two-thirds of them think Bush, who launched both wars, was a good commander in chief...."

George W. Bush's finest moment!

Reading 'My Pet Goat' as the worst terrorist mass-killing in world history was underway on American soil.

That one kind of out-does the 'Fatal Islamic Attacks' meme that poster Markle likes to periodically lay on everyone (blaming Democrats, of course).

And of course, Markle is citing from a blog that is associated with the Washington Post; not anything that was actually published in that newspaper.

You're making a joke of yourself.  As you well know, President George Walker Bush waited 10 minutes after being told that A plane had struck the World Trade Center.  Whereupon he left, went to the airport and was in the air within minutes.

PLEASE, share with us where President Barack Hussein Obama was while the attack on Benghazi was being carried out.  Where was he?  What was he doing?  That's a question President Obama, and his staff, have refused to answer.

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Benghazi_cloud_white_house_10-28-12-2

Now we're supposed to equate the attack on Benghazi with the Twin Tower disaster.  Benghazi 4, Twin Tower 2,000 +.  And Bush's revenge, foisted upon Iraq (who had nothing to do with 9-11) instead of Saudi Arabia where most all the hijackers came from, and all the money that financed their operation.  That Bush fiasco brought us another 4,000 dead Americans.

By body count alone, give me Obama any day!

Cute try!

Where did I equate the 9/11 Act of War with the Benghazi attack of which we know we had warning?

How's that body count working out since President Barack Hussein Obama took office?

Please tell us again how many 9/11 Acts of War we should have absorbed before fighting back? You never have come up with a figure. Go figure....

knothead

knothead

Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Now this takes the cake . . . . YOU of all people have the balls to post your comment above . . . now coming from you who has NO respect for the Commander In Chief . . . . that is really really hilarious!!!

Priceless . . . .

Markle

Markle

knothead wrote:Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Now this takes the cake . . . . YOU of all people have the balls to post your comment above . . . now coming from you who has NO respect for the Commander In Chief . . . .  that is really really hilarious!!!

Priceless . . . .

I have respect for him as a husband and a father. I have no respect, whatsoever for what he is doing to our country.

The difference is that YOU and your comrades profess respect for what President Barack Hussein Obama is doing to our country.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Why don't you go perform a sexual act on yourself, Markle? No one else is interested.

http://crooksandliars.com/heather/andrew-napolitano-bush-and-cheney-should-h

Well, this is something you don't see every day. Ralph Nader hosted this interview segment with Fox News' Judge Andrew Napolitano and discussed his book, Lies the Government Told You. I'm surprised the judge is going to be allowed on Fox after making the statements he did about Bush and Cheney during the interview.

Nader: What about the more serious violations of habeas corpus. You know after 9-11 Bush rounded up thousands of them, Americans, many of them Muslim Americans or Arabic Americans and they were thrown in jail without charges, they didn't have lawyers, some of them were pretty mistreated in New York City. You know they were all released eventually.

Napolitano: Correct.

Nader: Is that what you mean also about throwing people in jail without charges violating habeas corpus?

Napolitano: Well that is so obviously a violation of the natural law, the natural right to be brought before a neutral arbiter within moments of the government taking your freedom away from you. And the Constitution itself, as the Supreme Court in the Boumediene case pretty much said, wherever the government goes, the Constitution goes with it and wherever the Constitution goes are the rights of the Constitution as a guarantee and habeas corpus cannot be suspended by the president ever. It can only be suspended by the Congress in times of rebellion which in read Milligan says meaning rebellion of such magnitude that judges can't get into their court houses. That has not happened in American history.

So what President Bush did with the suspension of habeas corpus, with the whole concept of Guantanamo Bay, with the whole idea that he could avoid and evade federal laws, treaties, federal judges and the Constitution was blatantly unconstitutional and is some cases criminal.

Nader: What's the sanction for President Bush and Vice President Cheney?

Napolitano: There's been no sanction except what history will say about them.

Nader: What should be the sanctions?

Napolitano: They should have been indicted. They absolutely should have been indicted for torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrants. I'd like to say they should be indicted for lying but believe it or not, unless you're under oath, lying is not a crime. At least not an indictable crime. It's a moral crime.

Nader: So you think George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should even though they've left office, they haven't escaped the criminal laws, they should be indicted and prosecuted?

Napolitano: The evidence in this book and in others, our colleague the great Vincent Bugliosi has amassed an incredible amount of evidence. The purpose of this book was not to amass that evidence but I do discuss it, is overwhelming when you compare it to the level of evidence required for a normal indictment that George W. Bush as President and Dick Cheney as Vice President participated in criminal conspiracies to violate the federal law and the guaranteed civil liberties of hundreds, maybe thousands of human beings.

They go on to discuss how these crimes have gone on unpunished and how the practices have continued under Obama and that as long as our citizens are willing to accept government deception and as long as the Justice Department and the lawyers in this country are not going to pursue these cases in court it's never going to stop. It's a topic that our media is happy to help brush under the rug as well.

UPDATE: If you would like to watch the entire hour long interview from Book TV, C-SPAN has it available in their video library here.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

knothead wrote:Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Now this takes the cake . . . . YOU of all people have the balls to post your comment above . . . now coming from you who has NO respect for the Commander In Chief . . . .  that is really really hilarious!!!

Priceless . . . .

I think we have a major thread failure going on here......

Who started this thread? Oh, yeah! Markle did....

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knothead

knothead

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
knothead wrote:Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Now this takes the cake . . . . YOU of all people have the balls to post your comment above . . . now coming from you who has NO respect for the Commander In Chief . . . .  that is really really hilarious!!!

Priceless . . . .

I think we have a major thread failure going on here......

Who started this thread? Oh, yeah! Markle did....

Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black huh?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush Freedom_fascism

Guest


Guest

Zvug,

How many hours after ambassador Stevens asked for help did Obama get around to turning him down and leaving him to die along with three other Americans at Benghazi?

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Now it looks like even PaceDog has gotten on this failboat......  Razz 

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knothead

knothead

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Now it looks like even PaceDog has gotten on this failboat......  Razz 

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You'd think he would've had enough this weekend Z . . . . LOLOL

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:You're making a joke of yourself.

I know you are, Markle. This whole thread ia nothing but a joke!!!!!!

Interesting...but not surprising.  Respect for the Commander in Chief, to you and your fellow Progressives here is a laughing matter.

Pathetic



No, what's really pathetic, is that you started this thread to express disrespect for the President of the USA. LOL

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

We should ask instead the parents, brothers and sisters and wives, of men and women who gave their lives in Bush's Iraq war.  Ask them how THEY feel about George W. Bush!!!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle. Ones an "act of war." The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again? The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi. But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch. Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans. In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.


Don't confuse Markle with facts, Wordslinger. He even has a narrative (one of his famous cut-and-pastes [eyes rolling]) that somehow manages to blame Dubya's failure on 9/11 on Bill Clinton. Markle always finds a way to allow his fellow Republicans to weasle-out from any fault.

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.


Don't confuse Markle with facts, Wordslinger. He even has a narrative (one of his famous cut-and-pastes [eyes rolling]) that somehow manages to blame Dubya's failure on 9/11 on Bill Clinton. Markle always finds a way to allow his fellow Republicans to weasle-out from any fault.

Here you go. Once again for my Progressive good friends and your consternation. PLEASE, instead of your childish games, prove what is NOT true in my post. Grow up. Try hard now. Wordslinger has never even tried either. He too just comes back with more childish name calling too.

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable. To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information. That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we had since?

Keep up the good work! Wordslinger, God bless him, is on drugs but what's your excuse?

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