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obamacare starting to look like medicaid ............ surprise!

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Those signing up for private health care coverage on the ObamaCare exchanges may be in for an unpleasant surprise -- they'll have insurance, but they might have trouble getting the doctor to see them.




As hundreds of thousands enroll for coverage beginning Jan. 1, analysts are warning that the plans are likely to give them access to fewer doctors and hospitals. So much so, they warn, that the system could begin to resemble Medicaid, the health care program for low-income Americans.

"Indeed, I think this will eventually be like Medicaid," said Merrill Matthews, director of the Council for Affordable Health Insurance.

Matthews said the only way many insurers are going to be able to control costs is by "simply clamping down on the amount they are willing to pay."

Just as with Medicaid, analysts warn that if payments get too low, many doctors might start refusing to see patients. That will leave more and more patients jockeying to see fewer and fewer doctors.

They emphasize, then, that having health insurance won't necessarily translate into access to health care.

"About half of the physicians in many communities refuse to take Medicaid patients because the payment system is just too low," said James Capretta, of the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

Doug Holtz-Eakin, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, suggested some of the plans on the exchanges are going in the same direction.

"If you look at something where you get a dollar by treating a private payer, you get about 70 cents out of Medicare for that same treatment, you get about 55 cents out of Medicaid for that," he said.

He added: "You know, ObamCare started to look like Medicaid of the future, and in the Medicaid in the present, you can have the insurance but a doctor won't see you."

By the end of March, the Obama administration hopes to increase the number of people on Medicaid by 9 million, and the number in private plans by 7 million. New Medicaid enrollments so far have far outpaced enrollments in private plans on the exchanges.

But since Medicaid patients already have access to relatively few doctors, expanding that population while opening the door to lower payments for private insurance raises the prospect of rationing, as too many people chase too few doctors.

"These networks are going to be jammed with people," Robert Laszewski, president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, said. "Far more than they're treating now, and I don't doubt that we're going to have problems with access to these doctors. There just aren't going to be enough of them."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/26/doctor-wont-see-analysts-warn-obamacare-plans-could-resemble-medicaid/?intcmp=latestnews

FYI.. this is what you call success LOL

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Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming. The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

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2seaoat wrote:Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming.  The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

You really are a pompous ignorant fella arnt ya? I bet you don't know anyone on Medicaid. Medicaid is NOT GOOD seaoat lol

don't trust my word on how bad it is, fine. and then you don't trust a former DIRECTOR of the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. then you don't trust the DIRECTOR OF THE AFORDABLE HEALTH INS who says these people will be having fewer and fewer doctors.

You really are just in la la land making it up as you go. facts have no meaning to you.

and your not going to get medicare for all. we can never afford it. even sebelis said not long ago that it IS NOT obamas goal to create a single payer. go look it up. im tired of spoon feeding you when you just don't comprehend the subject. you are ignorant of your own choosing.

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Chrissy wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming.  The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

You really are a pompous ignorant fella arnt ya? I bet you don't know anyone on Medicaid. Medicaid is NOT GOOD seaoat lol

don't trust my word on how bad it is, fine. and then you don't trust a former DIRECTOR of the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. then you don't trust the DIRECTOR OF THE AFORDABLE HEALTH INS who says these people will be having fewer and fewer doctors.

You really are just in la la land making it up as you go. facts have no meaning to you.

and your not going to get medicare for all. we can never afford it. even sebelis said not long ago that it IS NOT obamas goal to create a single payer. go look it up. im tired of spoon feeding you when you just don't comprehend the subject. you are ignorant of your own choosing.

So you're trying to say the people on BC/BS who pay the full price are going to have less access to Dr.'s? You went on and on about Obama before the election posting thread after false thread w/ the same doom and gloom and you've been wrong on every single thing. Every one. Now you're doing it on the healthcare law. Why anyone would even read your posts is beyond me?

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Dreamsglore wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming.  The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

You really are a pompous ignorant fella arnt ya? I bet you don't know anyone on Medicaid. Medicaid is NOT GOOD seaoat lol

don't trust my word on how bad it is, fine. and then you don't trust a former DIRECTOR of the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. then you don't trust the DIRECTOR OF THE AFORDABLE HEALTH INS who says these people will be having fewer and fewer doctors.

You really are just in la la land making it up as you go. facts have no meaning to you.

and your not going to get medicare for all. we can never afford it. even sebelis said not long ago that it IS NOT obamas goal to create a single payer. go look it up. im tired of spoon feeding you when you just don't comprehend the subject. you are ignorant of your own choosing.

So you're trying to say the people on BC/BS who pay the full price are going to have less access to Dr.'s? You went on and on about Obama before the election posting thread after false thread w/ the same doom and gloom and you've been wrong on every single thing. Every one. Now you're doing it on the healthcare law. Why anyone would even read your posts is beyond me?

Chrissy is right. There will be less access just because more people will now have insurance. The uptick in insured guarantees that. Then the number of docs leaving the field double guarantees that and the ones left to practice who are not cherry picking patients with things like MDVIP will have an overload.

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Dreamsglore wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming.  The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

You really are a pompous ignorant fella arnt ya? I bet you don't know anyone on Medicaid. Medicaid is NOT GOOD seaoat lol

don't trust my word on how bad it is, fine. and then you don't trust a former DIRECTOR of the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. then you don't trust the DIRECTOR OF THE AFORDABLE HEALTH INS who says these people will be having fewer and fewer doctors.

You really are just in la la land making it up as you go. facts have no meaning to you.

and your not going to get medicare for all. we can never afford it. even sebelis said not long ago that it IS NOT obamas goal to create a single payer. go look it up. im tired of spoon feeding you when you just don't comprehend the subject. you are ignorant of your own choosing.

So you're trying to say the people on BC/BS who pay the full price are going to have less access to Dr.'s? You went on and on about Obama before the election posting thread after false thread w/ the same doom and gloom and you've been wrong on every single thing. Every one. Now you're doing it on the healthcare law. Why anyone would even read your posts is beyond me?

what have I been wrong on? ive been wrong on nothing pertaining to this. show me.

Im not saying it these,experts are. does your pea brain understand that?

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Medicaid for All..!! I've been saying this for a long time. Just wait till next summer when ins corps adjust premiums.

I wonder how obama will delay that until after the elections?

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2seaoat wrote:Absolute success and growing by the day.....take a deep breath.....in five years you will be hating on Medicare for all........like an avalanche you are going to be swept away with what is coming.  The demographics and template make it as certain as the Yankees having the biggest payroll in the majors.....some things are cast in stone.

Anyone who thinks the ACA roll-out has been an "absolute success" has a low threshold for success. Reality points that the ACA has been -- ahem -- less than successful.

boards of FL

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"Hey! The website doesn't work! Look everyone! It's a failure! The website doesn't work!"


"Hey, no one is signing up! That means this is a failure! Nobody wants this!"


"Hey, look! So many people are signing up that there will be a doctor shortage! This is a failure!"


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boards of FL wrote:"Hey!  The website doesn't work!  Look everyone!  It's a failure!  The website doesn't work!"


"Hey, no one is signing up!  That means this is a failure!  Nobody wants this!"


"Hey, look!  So many people are signing up that there will be a doctor shortage!   This is a failure!"

Your avatar explains it all.

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:
boards of FL wrote:"Hey!  The website doesn't work!  Look everyone!  It's a failure!  The website doesn't work!"


"Hey, no one is signing up!  That means this is a failure!  Nobody wants this!"


"Hey, look!  So many people are signing up that there will be a doctor shortage!   This is a failure!"

Your avatar explains it all.


Really? What does my avatar explain for you?


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boards of FL wrote:"Hey!  The website doesn't work!  Look everyone!  It's a failure!  The website doesn't work!"


"Hey, no one is signing up!  That means this is a failure!  Nobody wants this!"


"Hey, look!  So many people are signing up that there will be a doctor shortage!   This is a failure!"

boards, youre a smart man. You know very well this thing is a disaster. The only reason they are talking about doctor shoratage is because half of the doctors in the country DO NOT take medicaid. and these plans they are rolling out are resembling reimbursments of medicaid.

and yes, people never wanted this, not by a majority anyway. and its even less now. when you dont have the very people on board with a project aimed at them, beware.

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This is such a boondoggle 2seaoat doesn't even believe what he is posting.  He just wants to stir the pot.  NO ONE can be so foolish as to believe this will work.

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