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Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/18/2013, 10:55 pm
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/18/2013, 11:18 pm
When most of us were kids and the nightlight got turned off, we thought the boogeyman was hiding under the bed.knothead wrote:
I'm not sure but this could qualify as one of the most ignorant statements ever . . . . .
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 12:04 am
You threw your support behind everything my far left Progressive Wordslinger posted.knothead wrote:Sadly, I am no longer surprised at how much hate Progressives have for our great country and how little they think of their fellow citizens.
I'm not sure but this could qualify as one of the most ignorant statements ever . . . . .
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 12:31 am Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 12:59 am
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 4:19 am Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:55 amProgressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 6:11 am
What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 9:20 amWhy don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 9:36 amWe need bigger prisons. Maybe we need to make the entire country a prison? It can be called Camp America.PkrBum wrote:Why don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Maybe the gun free zone signs are just too small?
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 4:42 pmChrissy, you're on to something there. Your idea originated with Herbert Hoover and was echoed by several "law enforcement" officials. Robert Bork was all for "camp America," I believe, and the Police Chief of New York would go for such a development in a New York minute.Chrissy wrote:We need bigger prisons. Maybe we need to make the entire country a prison? It can be called Camp America.PkrBum wrote:Why don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Maybe the gun free zone signs are just too small?
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 4:45 pmPkrBum wrote:Why don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Maybe the gun free zone signs are just too small?
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:13 pm
That's why I moved to camp FEMA...I hate camp Amerika I have yet to see a cop out here at FEMA...Wordslinger wrote:Chrissy, you're on to something there. Your idea originated with Herbert Hoover and was echoed by several "law enforcement" officials. Robert Bork was all for "camp America," I believe, and the Police Chief of New York would go for such a development in a New York minute.Chrissy wrote:We need bigger prisons. Maybe we need to make the entire country a prison? It can be called Camp America.PkrBum wrote:Why don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Maybe the gun free zone signs are just too small?
But, look closely at all the police cameras, spy satellites, the eavesdropping of all our phone calls and emails, then look at any of the hundreds of photos of "law enforcement officers," in a long line, armed to the teeth, wearing Ninja masks, etc. Bullying anyone they wish off the streets.
We're already in Camp AmeriKa!!
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:17 pm Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:25 pmIf Count Rothschild and the jews can blow up the world trade center and get away with it, I hope you're not really naive enough to believe they can't find you in the woods outside chumuckla. Get real. Mossad has you under surveillance right now.TEOTWAWKI wrote:
That's why I moved to camp FEMA.
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:27 pmMan I am not taking on DHS or any authoritay with a gun....at least not until the American people declare an open season on them..Wolverines !Mr Ichi wrote:That's why I moved to camp FEMA...I hate camp Amerika I have yet to see a cop out here at FEMA...
They will be at Camp FEMA very soon. They will track down that drone you bought. Lock and load!!!
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 5:51 pmIf every little thing needs a govt solution... I'm very good at problem solving. It just never appealed to me to control people that aren't causing anyone any harm... like the vast majority of gun owners. From the looks of the targets of these rare incidents... they do have some things in common... I guess we're back to the causation/correlation argument.Wordslinger wrote:I thought you were a conservative . . . but you want more government, right?PkrBum wrote:Why don't you just fix the unstable, insane, criminal, radical persons that commit mass-murder?Wordslinger wrote:What a crock of you-know-what. The issue isn't murder statistics -- it's the increasing number of mass-murder incidents like Columbine, Newtown and the Navy Yard. And if your darling, I-love-Jesus, Mom and Apple Pie, America deserves a kick in the ass for it's violent, war-loving, hate the poor and love the rich conduct, so be it. Glad you're shocked. You deserve it.Markle wrote:Progressives are truely offended by the Facts. Results, accountability and such things are irrelevant, immaterial and unimportant.PkrBum wrote:I posted those numbers in the first few resposes of the thread... but it didn't fit the reactionary agenda I guess.
Maybe the gun free zone signs are just too small?
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 6:44 pm Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 6:48 pm
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/19/2013, 7:02 pmIf I remember over 2000 people were shot dead by the Australian cops while trying to take their guns...even the real Crocodile Dundee was killed but not before killing a couple authoritays....There would be a 100 times that number here....but hey go ahead.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/20/2013, 12:08 amYou forgot the rest of the story...as Paul Harvey used to say.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/20/2013, 8:26 amLooks as if you remember incorrectly, way incorrectly. 2,000, REALLY? Actually the public was on board with the buyback and thought it was time to put an end to the shootings. Over 15 years 33 were shot by police. Shootings were not reported to have anything to do with people wanting to keep their guns. This is apparently a gun nuts fantasy.TEOTWAWKI wrote:If I remember over 2000 people were shot dead by the Australian cops while trying to take their guns...even the real Crocodile Dundee was killed but not before killing a couple authoritays....There would be a 100 times that number here....but hey go ahead.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/20/2013, 8:30 amThe point of course is to reduce the number of people killed with guns, not a reduction in the general crime rate. Why can't you stick to the topic? As Raygun would say, there you go again.Markle wrote:You forgot the rest of the story...as Paul Harvey used to say.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Share with us what happened to the crime rate in Australia after their guns were confiscated.
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/20/2013, 9:29 amso youll trade off a few hundred more women get raped because they didn't have a gun. just so you can have 10 less murders. I get it.. wonder if you would feel the same way if the higher crime is against you and your family. or are you just ok with it if its other people being raped.othershoe1030 wrote:The point of course is to reduce the number of people killed with guns, not a reduction in the general crime rate. Why can't you stick to the topic? As Raygun would say, there you go again.Markle wrote:You forgot the rest of the story...as Paul Harvey used to say.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Share with us what happened to the crime rate in Australia after their guns were confiscated.
I would rather have a few more crimes and a lot less mass shootings any day but I guess it is a matter of priorities.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
Re: It's Not Guns . . It's America's Sick and Violent Culture 9/20/2013, 10:06 pmPerhaps it would be more meaningful if these questions of yours were directed to people who have had loved ones murdered in mass shootings? Guns don't really protect people in the way you envision. By-standers with guns firing into a group of panicked people is not a very attractive prospect.Chrissy wrote:so youll trade off a few hundred more women get raped because they didn't have a gun. just so you can have 10 less murders. I get it.. wonder if you would feel the same way if the higher crime is against you and your family. or are you just ok with it if its other people being raped.othershoe1030 wrote:The point of course is to reduce the number of people killed with guns, not a reduction in the general crime rate. Why can't you stick to the topic? As Raygun would say, there you go again.Markle wrote:You forgot the rest of the story...as Paul Harvey used to say.othershoe1030 wrote:This worked well in Australia. It is something to think about but, hey, it is too logical for us I guess? The population of Australia is much small than ours but they seem like another cowboy culture not all that different from ours. They are living proof that at least there it worked. Wouldn't it be worth a try here?
The National Firearms Agreement -- reached among the political parties less than two weeks after a gunman killed 35 people and injured 23 at a Tasmanian seaside resort -- cut firearm homicide by 59% over the next two decades and firearms suicide by 74%, the report showed.
The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons.
The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 guns, the Sunshine Coast Daily reported.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/17/australia-gun-reform-buyback-us-national-firearm-agreement/1774549/
Share with us what happened to the crime rate in Australia after their guns were confiscated.
I would rather have a few more crimes and a lot less mass shootings any day but I guess it is a matter of priorities.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
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