They are running an ad campaign in order to get people to have this war with syria, how sick is that?

I was reading something on the Hill and this ad was on there which led to this link.

http://www.savesyrianchildren.org/?utm_source=thehill&utm_medium=display&utm_content=300x600&utm_campaign=20130905_human-lives_vote_yes

they also have a facebook page for this crap.

https://www.facebook.com/savesyrianchildren?filter=2

I could be out of line but running ads to get us to go to war is a bit odd to me.

Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

I don't recall bush trying to get us to go to war, we were all pretty much pissed at that point and ready to go. I realize now we all disagree about that moment but back then we were pretty united.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.



Really? Just happen stance, or strategy.....you tell me.

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

I think you are right that the previous interventions are very similar to the present interventions... but you are sadly mistaken if you think that progressives are against interventions. You can look to ww or fdr... or to those around obama. His appointment to the UN is a small clue... if current affairs aren't apparent enough.

Chrissy wrote:

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

I don't recall bush trying to get us to go to war, we were all pretty much pissed at that point and ready to go. I realize now we all disagree about that moment but back then we were pretty united.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.

I definitely recall Bush trying to get us into war, and not everybody thought we should go in that direction. About 90 percent  of Americans supported him but some of us  were speaking out against it.  Folks called us anti-American.  We said it was going to be a long war, a lot of people would die, and Saddam probably did not have WMD's. Even if he did, it was the UN's job to do something about it.
Of course, nobody much listened back then. They were too pissed off and wanted to shoot at anybody and everybody no matter if the gun was pointed in the right direction or not.



And PKR,you don't listen to progress radio if you think progressives are supporting Obama in this thing. Ed Schultz is probably the leading progressive talker in this country and he is raging against it every single day on his program.   Nearly every progressive  on the radio opposes going into Syria.  I know I certainly do.

By the way, FDR and Woodrow Wilson-ancient history must have been your major in college.  Bringing them up as examples of 21st century progressives? Get real.
And progressives haven't considered Barack Obama to be one of them since the middle of his first term. WE learned very quickly when he started letting the Generals make his decisions for him about Iraq and Afghanistan.  You're the one who labels him a progressive, not us. Most certainly not the guys on progressive radio.

bluemoon wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

I don't recall bush trying to get us to go to war, we were all pretty much pissed at that point and ready to go. I realize now we all disagree about that moment but back then we were pretty united.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.

I definitely recall Bush trying to get us into war, and not everybody thought we should go in that direction. About 90 percent  of Americans supported him but some of us  were speaking out against it.  Folks called us anti-American.  We said it was going to be a long war, a lot of people would die, and Saddam probably did not have WMD's. Even if he did, it was the UN's job to do something about it.
Of course, nobody much listened back then. They were too pissed off and wanted to shoot at anybody and everybody no matter if the gun was pointed in the right direction or not.



And PKR,you don't listen to progress radio if you think progressives are supporting Obama in this thing. Ed Schultz is probably the leading progressive talker in this country and he is raging against it every single day on his program.   Nearly every progressive  on the radio opposes going into Syria.  I know I certainly do.

By the way, FDR and Woodrow Wilson-ancient history must have been your major in college.  Bringing them up as examples of 21st century progressives? Get real.
And progressives haven't considered Barack Obama to be one of them since the middle of his first term. WE learned very quickly when he started letting the Generals make his decisions for him about Iraq and Afghanistan.  You're the one who labels him a progressive, not us. Most certainly not the guys on progressive radio.

well, we're in a little conundrum aren't we?

Here we are. Hoping the repubs who we have called war mongers all these years votes against a middle east war. for whatever reason they might vote against it, will you still call it good and be thankful?

and if they do vote for it, will you only blame them and not o?

bluemoon wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening.Hopefully.

I don't recall bush trying to get us to go to war, we were all pretty much pissed at that point and ready to go. I realize now we all disagree about that moment but back then we were pretty united.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.

I definitely recall Bush trying to get us into war, and not everybody thought we should go in that direction. About 90 percent  of Americans supported him but some of us  were speaking out against it.  Folks called us anti-American.  We said it was going to be a long war, a lot of people would die, and Saddam probably did not have WMD's. Even if he did, it was the UN's job to do something about it.
Of course, nobody much listened back then. They were too pissed off and wanted to shoot at anybody and everybody no matter if the gun was pointed in the right direction or not.



And PKR,you don't listen to progress radio if you think progressives are supporting Obama in this thing. Ed Schultz is probably the leading progressive talker in this country and he is raging against it every single day on his program.   Nearly every progressive  on the radio opposes going into Syria.  I know I certainly do.

By the way, FDR and Woodrow Wilson-ancient history must have been your major in college.  Bringing them up as examples of 21st century progressives? Get real.
And progressives haven't considered Barack Obama to be one of them since the middle of his first term. WE learned very quickly when he started letting the Generals make his decisions for him about Iraq and Afghanistan.  You're the one who labels him a progressive, not us. Most certainly not the guys on progressive radio.

Perhaps the so called progressives of today might want to know that which they embrace. What's different?

Chrissy wrote:I was reading something on the Hill and this ad was on there which led to this link.

http://www.savesyrianchildren.org/?utm_source=thehill&utm_medium=display&utm_content=300x600&utm_campaign=20130905_human-lives_vote_yes

they also have a facebook page for this crap.

https://www.facebook.com/savesyrianchildren?filter=2

I could be out of line but running ads to get us to go to war is a bit odd to me.

Certainly no more odd than advertising for people to go on welfare, get food stamps, free telephones and all the other Democrat vote buying efforts.

President Barack Hussein Obama desperately wants someone to whom he can pass the buck on Syria and any other decision he might have to make. Now the red lines have disappeared and President Obama is the laughing stock of world leaders. Can there be a worse situation?

From President Obama's chosen position of leadership, from behind, he is now telling our friends and enemies that they are free to do what they wish. Perfectly fine for Syria to gas whoever they wish and for Iran to develop their nuclear rockets. President Obama is just hoping that he can run the clock out and someone else will have to deal with the massive disaster he has created in the world.

As for any remaining trust in his "word", he might as well book a series of luxurious world cruises for he, his family and administration. One of the aircraft carrier groups can escort the cruise ships for security.

No surprise his poll numbers continue to plunge. What intelligent voters and world leaders have known for years is FINALLY dawning on SOME of the base voters of President Obama. Those getting their rent and gas paid for...probably not so much.

Chrissy wrote:

bluemoon wrote:

Chrissy wrote:

bluemoon wrote:Bush came on TV and was given free commercial airtime  to advertise his plan to go to war with Iraq about 12 years ago.  He was as convincing as the best used car salesman in America.

The only real difference in this ad you're talking about is that it is not going to work this time.  It's the one instance in maybe the history of the world where racism might just accomplish something good.  Very few Republicans will vote for it because Obama wants it, and Democrats and progressives didn't want it in the first  place. They will join forces and stop it from happening. Hopefully.

I don't recall bush trying to get us to go to war, we were all pretty much pissed at that point and ready to go. I realize now we all disagree about that moment but back then we were pretty united.

I don't think repubs will vote against it just because o wants it. but if they do, good.

I definitely recall Bush trying to get us into war, and not everybody thought we should go in that direction. About 90 percent  of Americans supported him but some of us  were speaking out against it.  Folks called us anti-American.  We said it was going to be a long war, a lot of people would die, and Saddam probably did not have WMD's. Even if he did, it was the UN's job to do something about it.

Of course, nobody much listened back then. They were too pissed off and wanted to shoot at anybody and everybody no matter if the gun was pointed in the right direction or not.

And PKR,you don't listen to progress radio if you think progressives are supporting Obama in this thing. Ed Schultz is probably the leading progressive talker in this country and he is raging against it every single day on his program.   Nearly every progressive  on the radio opposes going into Syria.  I know I certainly do.

By the way, FDR and Woodrow Wilson-ancient history must have been your major in college.  Bringing them up as examples of 21st century progressives? Get real.
And progressives haven't considered Barack Obama to be one of them since the middle of his first term. WE learned very quickly when he started letting the Generals make his decisions for him about Iraq and Afghanistan.  You're the one who labels him a progressive, not us. Most certainly not the guys on progressive radio.

well, we're in a little conundrum aren't we?

Here we are. Hoping the repubs who we have called war mongers all these years votes against a middle east war. for whatever reason they might vote against it, will you still call it good and be thankful?

and if they do vote for it, will you only blame them and not o?

You really need to check in with a lot of far left Progressives. Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer and Dick Durbin, all are with the President on attacking Syria.

Three years ago is when this should have been done. Done then, President Barack Hussein Obama would have had the support of our friends and most of Congress. Of course President Barack Hussein Obama was leading from behind and it was okay with him if Assad killed over 100,000 of his people after Obama wrote him a sternly worded letter.

Oh, where is Progressive radio? I thought Al "Snake Oil Salesman" Gore sold it to the Oil moguls of the world, Al Jazeera.

What decisions did President Obama allow generals to make? President Obama BELIEVES the title of COMMANDER IN CHIEF. He second guesses and changes every order sent up by the Pentagon. He believes that having taught Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals qualifies as being a great military war leader.