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The Bush Burden

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1The Bush Burden Empty The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 11:53 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/the-bush-burden/?_r=0

"He’s there in every corner of Congress where a microphone fronts a politician, there in Russia and the British Parliament and the Vatican. You may think George W. Bush is at home in his bathtub, painting pictures of his toenails, but in fact he’s the biggest presence in the debate over what to do in Syria.

His legacy is paralysis, hypocrisy and uncertainty practiced in varying degrees by those who want to learn from history and those who deny it. Let’s grant some validity to the waffling, though none of it is coming from the architects of the worst global fiasco in a generation.

Time should not soften what President George W. Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war costing the United States more than a trillion dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the displacement of two million Iraqis. The years should not gauze over how the world was conned into an awful conflict. History should hold him accountable for the current muddy debate over what to do in the face of a state-sanctioned mass killer.

Blame Bush? Of course, President Obama has to lead; it’s his superpower now, his armies to move, his stage. But the prior president gave every world leader, every member of Congress a reason to keep the dogs of war on a leash. The isolationists in the Republican Party are a direct result of the Bush foreign policy. A war-weary public that can turn an eye from children being gassed — or express doubt that it happened — is another poisoned fruit of the Bush years. And for the nearly 200 members of both houses of Congress who voted on the Iraq war in 2002 and are still in office and facing a vote this month, Bush shadows them like Scrooge’s ghost..."

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2The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 12:22 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

I'm sure FT is tickled to death that she found yet another Bush bashing article....Bless her pathetic heart...life does not exist for FT unless she can blame President Bush.

This was posted in the comment section of her article. Appropriate, I think so.




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Apparently there is no expiration date for the "blame Bush" crowd. Lets all grow up here, the reason that so many Americans are against this are threefold. 

1. Obama has not taken his case to the people of this nation. 

2. People don't trust Obama anymore, who can blame them?

3. Americans do not see the "national security" aspect of this action. 

Look Bush was President 5 years ago, Obama has been President since, everything that happens from now n is all Obamas to deal with and take responsibility for. If George W was still in office I really doubt Assad would have used chemical weapons at all. 

Obama on the other hand does not scare anyone, and that was his key to foreign policy, if I don't threaten people or make them uncomfortable they will want to work with me. He was wrong. You can get a lot more done when people are really not exactly sure of what you might do.

3The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 12:37 pm

Guest


Guest

Well 5.5 years and the losers are still blaming Bush lol

4The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 4:02 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Well 5.5 years and the losers are still blaming Bush lol
Um, I hope you were never a math teacher.... Obama has been in office for 4.63 years. He has 3.37 years to go... cyclops

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5The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 4:13 pm

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/the-bush-burden/?_r=0

"He’s there in every corner of Congress where a microphone fronts a politician, there in Russia and the British Parliament and the Vatican. You may think George W. Bush is at home in his bathtub, painting pictures of his toenails, but in fact he’s the biggest presence in the debate over what to do in Syria.

His legacy is paralysis, hypocrisy and uncertainty practiced in varying degrees by those who want to learn from history and those who deny it. Let’s grant some validity to the waffling, though none of it is coming from the architects of the worst global fiasco in a generation.

Time should not soften what President George W. Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war costing the United States more than a trillion dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the displacement of two million Iraqis. The years should not gauze over how the world was conned into an awful conflict. History should hold him accountable for the current muddy debate over what to do in the face of a state-sanctioned mass killer.

Blame Bush? Of course, President Obama has to lead; it’s his superpower now, his armies to move, his stage. But the prior president gave every world leader, every member of Congress a reason to keep the dogs of war on a leash. The isolationists in the Republican Party are a direct result of the Bush foreign policy. A war-weary public that can turn an eye from children being gassed — or express doubt that it happened — is another poisoned fruit of the Bush years. And for the nearly 200 members of both houses of Congress who voted on the Iraq war in 2002 and are still in office and facing a vote this month, Bush shadows them like Scrooge’s ghost..."
The Bush Burden Th?id=H.4523507933710692&pid=1

I see... Instead of requiring that your nobel peace prize warmongering president seek approval of Congress and the United States people, you want to give him free rein to start a war as he pleases.

That's really bridging the gap for international diplomacy.

More US soldiers died in your nobel peace prize warmongering war criminal presidents first four years than in President Bush's entire time in office which is something else to remember your warmongering hero for.

When all is said and done with President Bush will be remembered with honor and your noble peace prize warmongering war criminal will be remembered for what he is...

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6The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:17 pm

knothead

knothead

When all is said and done with President Bush will be remembered with honor and your noble peace prize warmongering war criminal will be remembered for what he is...


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Newsflash . . . . . . it is already all said and done and Bush being remembered with honor is very debatable.

What is a noble peace prize? Never heard of that one . . . . maybe Bush got it.

7The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:26 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

knothead wrote:When all is said and done with President Bush will be remembered with honor and your noble peace prize warmongering war criminal will be remembered for what he is...


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Newsflash . . . . . . it is already all said and done and Bush being remembered with honor is very debatable.

What is a noble peace prize? Never heard of that one .
. . . maybe Bush got it.


Lol.....nothing NOBLE  ....the nobel  prize was given after believing in a political campaign.


The decision was made several weeks after he was elected...which means it was not earned on merit.

8The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:27 pm

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:When all is said and done with President Bush will be remembered with honor and your noble peace prize warmongering war criminal will be remembered for what he is...


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Newsflash . . . . . . it is already all said and done and Bush being remembered with honor is very debatable.

What is a noble peace prize? Never heard of that one . . . . maybe Bush got it.
The Bush Burden Th?id=H.4834768517007535&pid=1

So other than a spelling error you have nothing to add to your support of the most warmongering war criminal president in US history currently in office than it's already done?

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9The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:29 pm

Guest


Guest

Obama has bombed more countries than bush did... and I haven't heard any of you leftists call him a WAR CRIMINAL..!!

10The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:33 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

PkrBum wrote:Obama has bombed more countries than bush did... and I haven't heard any of you leftists call him a WAR CRIMINAL..!!

No, and you won't here any of them admit it.

11The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 5:34 pm

Guest


Guest

PkrBum wrote:Obama has bombed more countries than bush did... and I haven't heard any of you leftists call him a WAR CRIMINAL..!!
The Bush Burden Th?id=H.4905051306199884&pid=1

Let's not forget that he did it without Congressional approval.

What was the eminent threat to the United States?

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12The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 6:23 pm

Guest


Guest

Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Obama has bombed more countries than bush did... and I haven't heard any of you leftists call him a WAR CRIMINAL..!!
No, and you won't here any of them admit it.
blind sheep running around in a pen try8ng to find the door of truth is difficult. we can scream at the top of out lungs, look sheep, look the door is right here. But they will say, that's no door you liar and turn around and jump into the fire... bbq hmmm yummm

13The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 8:54 pm

Markle

Markle

Joanimaroni wrote:
knothead wrote:When all is said and done with President Bush will be remembered with honor and your noble peace prize warmongering war criminal will be remembered for what he is...


*******************************************************

Newsflash . . . . . . it is already all said and done and Bush being remembered with honor is very debatable.

What is a noble peace prize? Never heard of that one .
. . . maybe Bush got it.
Lol.....nothing NOBLE  ....the nobel  prize was given after believing in a political campaign.


The decision was made several weeks after he was elected...which means it was not earned on merit.
My money would be on the Nobel committee NEVER again awarding any of their awards based on two weeks of work.



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14The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 9:00 pm

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Well 5.5 years and the losers are still blaming Bush lol
Um, I hope you were never a math teacher.... Obama has been in office for 4.63 years. He has 3.37 years to go... cyclops
The worse and worse the job of President Barack Hussein Obama, the more desperate are the responses from the Progressives.

President Obama started having a negative effect on our foreign relations before he even took office. Intelligent voters and world leaders knew he had no experience whatsoever and would be trying to put what worked in his classroom, into practice in the REAL WORLD.

15The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 9:13 pm

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/the-bush-burden/?_r=0

"He’s there in every corner of Congress where a microphone fronts a politician, there in Russia and the British Parliament and the Vatican. You may think George W. Bush is at home in his bathtub, painting pictures of his toenails, but in fact he’s the biggest presence in the debate over what to do in Syria.

His legacy is paralysis, hypocrisy and uncertainty practiced in varying degrees by those who want to learn from history and those who deny it. Let’s grant some validity to the waffling, though none of it is coming from the architects of the worst global fiasco in a generation.

Time should not soften what President George W. Bush, and his apologists, did in an eight-year war costing the United States more than a trillion dollars, 4,400 American soldiers dead and the displacement of two million Iraqis. The years should not gauze over how the world was conned into an awful conflict. History should hold him accountable for the current muddy debate over what to do in the face of a state-sanctioned mass killer.

Blame Bush? Of course, President Obama has to lead; it’s his superpower now, his armies to move, his stage. But the prior president gave every world leader, every member of Congress a reason to keep the dogs of war on a leash. The isolationists in the Republican Party are a direct result of the Bush foreign policy. A war-weary public that can turn an eye from children being gassed — or express doubt that it happened — is another poisoned fruit of the Bush years. And for the nearly 200 members of both houses of Congress who voted on the Iraq war in 2002 and are still in office and facing a vote this month, Bush shadows them like Scrooge’s ghost..."

The Bush Burden Ghost+of+christmas+yet+to+come
The DEFICIT President Barack Hussein Obama has ADDED to our DEBT each year since taking office is nearly the cost of the War on Terror since it began in 2001.

How many more 9/11/2001 Acts of War SHOULD we have absorbed?

The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.4 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. Since President Obama took office, we have had four fatal Islamist Terrorist attacks.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack.

Six months in, we had Little Rock Arkansas and Fort Hood Texas.
Now we’ve had Benghazi six months ago where our Ambassador and three others were brutally murdered and surprise, surprise, nothing but changing stories and evasive answers.

To update, the attacks are increasing since President Obama took office. April 15, 2013, the Boston Marathon with two bombs, three dead, plus an officer murdered in their getaway attempt, 14 maimed with missing limbs and 264 injured.

So tell us, how many more 9/11/2001 attacks?

16The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/7/2013, 9:37 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Well 5.5 years and the losers are still blaming Bush lol
Um, I hope you were never a math teacher.... Obama has been in office for 4.63 years. He has 3.37 years to go... cyclops
The worse and worse the job of President Barack Hussein Obama, the more desperate are the responses from the Progressives.

President Obama started having a negative effect on our foreign relations before he even took office.  Intelligent voters and world leaders knew he had no experience whatsoever and would be trying to put what worked in his classroom, into practice in the REAL WORLD.
Pathetic response, as usual. In what world did you live when Bush left office and the crowd jeered? It's been convenient for people in the Reich Wing to point to Obama's supposed lack of experience. I'll take that any day over Bush's neocon, CIA, Saudi, Carlyle Group connections.

17The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/8/2013, 12:16 am

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:Pathetic response, as usual.  In what world did you live when Bush left office and the crowd jeered?  It's been convenient for people in the Reich Wing to point to Obama's supposed lack of experience.  I'll take that any day over Bush's neocon, CIA, Saudi, Carlyle Group connections.  
The Bush Burden Th?id=H.4714621101607893&pid=1

The only warmongers who appear to be part of the Fourth Reich are Obama and his avid followers like yourself darlin'.

How many more countries is your fearless civic leader going to attack prior to leaving office just so he can prove his ability to bridge the gap in diplomatic relations with other sovereign nations by using military force while you and others like you follow him to the gates of hell in support preaching your version of a 'doctrine of peace'?

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18The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/9/2013, 8:51 pm

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Well 5.5 years and the losers are still blaming Bush lol
Um, I hope you were never a math teacher.... Obama has been in office for 4.63 years. He has 3.37 years to go... cyclops
The worse and worse the job of President Barack Hussein Obama, the more desperate are the responses from the Progressives.

President Obama started having a negative effect on our foreign relations before he even took office.  Intelligent voters and world leaders knew he had no experience whatsoever and would be trying to put what worked in his classroom, into practice in the REAL WORLD.
Pathetic response, as usual.  In what world did you live when Bush left office and the crowd jeered?  It's been convenient for people in the Reich Wing to point to Obama's supposed lack of experience.  I'll take that any day over Bush's neocon, CIA, Saudi, Carlyle Group connections.  
As for connections, here, as you well know, are just a few of President Barack Hussein Obama PLUS all the former executives of Goldman Sachs in his administration.

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19The Bush Burden Empty Re: The Bush Burden 9/10/2013, 4:23 pm

VectorMan

VectorMan

Chrissy wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Obama has bombed more countries than bush did... and I haven't heard any of you leftists call him a WAR CRIMINAL..!!
No, and you won't here any of them admit it.
blind sheep running around in a pen try8ng to find the door of truth is difficult. we can scream at the top of out lungs, look sheep, look the door is right here. But they will say, that's no door you liar and turn around and jump into the fire... bbq hmmm yummm
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