Unrelated Coincidence of the Day - Anti-Vaccine Church at Center of Measles Outbreak

For several days now, state health officials have been sounding the alarm about a nascent measles outbreak in North Texas. As of Friday, there had been nine confirmed cases, a number that will grow as new reports from local health agencies filter up to the state.

The epicenter of the outbreak is Tarrant County, which has now confirmed 10 cases, and the epicenter of cases in Tarrant County seems to be at Eagle Mountain International Church.

Pastor Terri Copeland Pearsons delivered the news in a sermon last Wednesday:

"There has been a ... confirmed case of the measles from the Tarrant County Public Health Department. And that is a really big deal in that America, the United States has been essentially measles free for I think it's 10 years. And so when measles pops up anywhere else in the United States, the health department -- well, you know, it excites them. You know what I mean I don't mean. I don't mean they're happy about it, but they get very excited and respond to it because it doesn't take much for things like that to spread."

The sermon was awkward, to say the least. Pearsons is the eldest daughter of megapastor Kenneth Copeland, and her church is one of the cornerstones of Kenneth Copeland Ministries, his sprawling evangelical empire. He's far from the most vocal proponent of the discredited theory that the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine causes autism, but, between his advocacy of faith healing and his promotion of the vaccine-autism link on his online talk show, he's not exactly urging his flock to get their recommended shots.

That left his daughter doing some nifty theological footwork in last week's sermon as she struggled to explain how believers should trust their health to both God and medical professionals.

"There are a lot of people that think the Bible -- we talk about walking by faith -- it leaves out things such as, I don't know, people just get strange. But when you read the Old Testament, you find that it is full of precautionary measures, and it is full of the law."

"Why did the Jewish people, why did they not die out during the plague? Because the Bible told them how to be clean, told them how to disinfect, told them there was something contagious. And the interesting thing of it, it wasn't a medical doctor per se who took care of those things, it was the priesthood. It was the ministers, it was those who knew how to take the promises of God as well as the commandments of God to take care of things like disinfection and so forth...."

"Many of the things that we have in medical practice now actually are things you can trace back into scripture. It's when we find out what's in the scripture that we have wisdom."

She concludes by announcing that the church was hosting a pair of free vaccination clinics and urging everyone to show up, advice that probably would have been more helpful two months ago.

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2013/08/theres_a_measles_outbreak_at_v.php

Fortunately, the insane fringe is not the norm, and most responsible parents protect their families. I saw a neighbor child stricken with Polio as a child, and I find the folks who attack vaccines to be the lowest creatures on this earth.....superstition causes death and harm to innocent children.

2seaoat wrote:Fortunately, the insane fringe is not the norm, and most responsible parents protect their families.   I saw a neighbor child stricken with Polio as a child, and I find the folks who attack vaccines to be the lowest creatures on this earth.....superstition causes death and harm to innocent children.

Actually my sister in Dallas told me about this yesterday.  She was recently hospitalized at Parkland and was afraid that, because of her health problems, she wouldn't survive the measles.  I pointed out that we all had the measles as kids...and I'm not sure whether those antibodies are still there.  But I'm not going to encourage her to get a measles booster...she might end up with the measles.  

I'm most assuredly not against vaccines, but I do think that the schedule of vaccinations should be more spread out...However, I am completely against vaccinating babies at birth against Hepatitis B...and I'm very suspicious of the flu vaccines...and the HPV vaccine for young girls and boys I believe is a scam.  So, Seaoat, you've just made a blanket analysis of the whole situation...it isn't as cut and dried as it might appear on the surface, since every innoculation has side effects...and in some children those effects can be magnified by a compromised immune system.

I have a friend whose daughter was diagnosed as autistic as a toddler.  She does blame the vaccines.  She adjusted the child's diet (gluten-free, etc.) and bought a hyperbaric chamber.  The child is 9 (I think) and is not autistic.  



I'm sure you're aware of the usefulness of hyperbaric treatment for deep water narcosis, wound care, etc.  But it also is being used, along with a ketogenic diet, in cancer treatments.  Cancer tends not to thrive in an oxygen-rich environment.

Read about it here:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0065522

Science should be able to render probabilities in treatments. My guess that vaccines across the board are around 90%. Now some vaccines cannot protect against everything, and may go as low as 70%, not because of failure, but certain agents simply cannot be protected against. My complaint against the blanket attacks on vaccines is that for 60 years the world has slowly through science eliminated huge pain and suffering, yet some folks who are anti science can cause so much damage because of utter ignorance or false dogma. Sorry, the polio virus was within my life time. I saw Barbara going to the bus stop with her crutches each and every morning as a reminder of how lucky I was to get a polio vaccine in third grade. People can believe anything they want about autism, but I would bet that it has more to do with environmental damage than any other theory, yet it may be a generation before we find the cause, and if the answer in the meantime is to be against vaccines.......well there is going to be a very heavy price to be paid.

Floridatexan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Fortunately, the insane fringe is not the norm, and most responsible parents protect their families.   I saw a neighbor child stricken with Polio as a child, and I find the folks who attack vaccines to be the lowest creatures on this earth.....superstition causes death and harm to innocent children.

Actually my sister in Dallas told me about this yesterday.  She was recently hospitalized at Parkland and was afraid that, because of her health problems, she wouldn't survive the measles.  I pointed out that we all had the measles as kids...and I'm not sure whether those antibodies are still there.  But I'm not going to encourage her to get a measles booster...she might end up with the measles.  

I'm most assuredly not against vaccines, but I do think that the schedule of vaccinations should be more spread out...However, I am completely against vaccinating babies at birth against Hepatitis B...and I'm very suspicious of the flu vaccines...and the HPV vaccine for young girls and boys I believe is a scam.  So, Seaoat, you've just made a blanket analysis of the whole situation...it isn't as cut and dried as it might appear on the surface, since every innoculation has side effects...and in some children those effects can be magnified by a compromised immune system.

I have a friend whose daughter was diagnosed as autistic as a toddler.  She does blame the vaccines.  She adjusted the child's diet (gluten-free, etc.) and bought a hyperbaric chamber.  The child is 9 (I think) and is not autistic.  



I'm sure you're aware of the usefulness of hyperbaric treatment for deep water narcosis, wound care, etc.  But it also is being used, along with a ketogenic diet, in cancer treatments.  Cancer tends not to thrive in an oxygen-rich environment.

Read about it here:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0065522

The child was most likely not autistic. Misdiagnosis.

When does it become right to force people to do something they are against doing?

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