Creative editing by ABC warped juror response about Zimmerman

Sal wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:ABC wasn't the only network to repeatedly distort the Zimmerman/Martin news. They all repeatedly showed photos of Trayvon Martin when he was a young teenager. No recent photo was ever broadcast. They did however use a mug shot of George Zimmerman over and over. Is distortion a lie?

 Bullshit. 



The media used the pics of a young Trayvon because they were the pics first provided to them. 


The family provided those pics because they were the most convenient, having been used in his funeral program. 


When pics of an older Trayvon became available, they aired them. 


The media used the Zimmerman mug shot, because it was the first one available. 


When a pic was provided of a smiling Zimmerman in suit and tie became available, they aired it. 


The media is guilty of laziness, not conspiracy. 

It's pretty obvious you didn't follow the reporting from the beginning or you've developed your own reality. The very first photo of Trayvon Martin used on CNN was a recent photo showing him with some friends however by midday CNN was using a photo of a much younger Trayvon. Also the very first photo of George Zimmerman was released before Zimmerman was was arrested. You'd do well to do a little background research or at least use a looping recording device. Then your comments would have the benefit of accuracy. Unless your comments are developed in your bias, thus being worthless tripe of how you wish events had happened. Of course it could be that you possess poor observation skills in which case it's really not your fault.

The very first photo of Trayvon Martin used on CNN was a recent photo showing him with some friends however by midday CNN was using a photo of a much younger Trayvon. Also the very first photo of George Zimmerman was released before Zimmerman was was arrested.

You accuse Sal of bias but you are cherry picking your facts and extrapolating a theory which did not coincide with my reality. I watched PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, CNBC, and Fox and was exposed to a multitude of photos and presentations. Explain to me how this conspiracy happened in the MEDIA, and exactly what you were watching to come up with this bizarre theory that producers and editors intentionally only showed the younger Martin, and intentionally did not show the bloodied Zimmerman. Was your only source of information CNN, and are you now saying that as fact CNN never showed an older Martin, or a bloodied Zimmerman?

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Slicef18 wrote:
It's pretty obvious you didn't follow the reporting from the beginning or you've developed your own reality. The very first photo of Trayvon Martin used on CNN was a recent photo showing him with some friends however by midday CNN was using a photo of a much younger Trayvon. Also the very first photo of George Zimmerman was released before Zimmerman was was arrested. You'd do well to do a little background research or at least use a looping recording device. Then your comments would have the benefit of accuracy. Unless your comments are developed in your bias, thus being worthless tripe of how you wish events had happened. Of course it could be that you possess poor observation skills in which case it's really not your fault.

 lol


Now, you're just makin' shit up. 

2seaoat wrote:The very first photo of Trayvon Martin used on CNN was a recent photo showing him with some friends however by midday CNN was using a photo of a much younger Trayvon. Also the very first photo of George Zimmerman was released before Zimmerman was was arrested.

You accuse Sal of bias but you are cherry picking your facts and extrapolating a theory which did not coincide with my reality.   I watched PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, CNBC, and Fox and was exposed to a multitude of photos and presentations.   Explain to me how this conspiracy happened in the MEDIA, and exactly what you were watching to come up with this bizarre theory that producers and editors intentionally only showed the younger Martin, and intentionally did not show the bloodied Zimmerman.  Was your only source of information CNN, and are you now saying that as fact CNN never showed an older Martin, or a bloodied Zimmerman?

What planet have you been on. All the networks have been using a photo of a much younger Travon Martin than the six foot Travon that fought with Zimmerman that fatal night.

Sal wrote:U

Slicef18 wrote:
It's pretty obvious you didn't follow the reporting from the beginning or you've developed your own reality. The very first photo of Trayvon Martin used on CNN was a recent photo showing him with some friends however by midday CNN was using a photo of a much younger Trayvon. Also the very first photo of George Zimmerman was released before Zimmerman was was arrested. You'd do well to do a little background research or at least use a looping recording device. Then your comments would have the benefit of accuracy. Unless your comments are developed in your bias, thus being worthless tripe of how you wish events had happened. Of course it could be that you possess poor observation skills in which case it's really not your fault.

 lol


Now, you're just makin' shit up. 

Your reply exposes your poor investigative and research skills.

What planet have you been on. All the networks have been using a photo of a much younger Travon Martin than the six foot Travon that fought with Zimmerman that fatal night.


I strongly disagree. I saw a multitude of photos of both individuals on different occasions. Can you back up your totally baseless claim with some type of media analysis which showed this bias, or are you simply pulling generalizations from thin air. If this truly happened, it would not be hard to document, give percentages and show a clear bias or conspiracy. I live on the planet earth, and you must live on Vulcan where you have this ability to do a Vulcan mind meld and read into producers minds on eight or so major networks that they presented only one type of picture. I must have been seeing things, because I saw an array of photos.

2seaoat wrote:What planet have you been on. All the networks have been using a photo of a much younger Travon Martin than the six foot Travon that fought with Zimmerman that fatal night.


I strongly disagree.  I saw a multitude of photos of both individuals on different occasions.   Can you back up your totally baseless claim with some type of media analysis which showed this bias, or are you simply pulling generalizations from thin air.  If this truly happened, it would not be hard to document, give percentages and show a clear bias or conspiracy.   I live on the planet earth, and you must live on Vulcan where you have this ability to do a Vulcan mind meld and read into producers minds on eight or so major networks that they presented only one type of picture.   I must have been seeing things, because I saw an array of photos.

Have fun riding your fantasy train....


“When some future PhD candidate is doing his dissertation on the total collapse of American news gathering and journalism in the twenty-first century, they’ll cite the coverage of this murder a lot,” National Review’s Jim Geraghty

Have fun riding your fantasy train....


So now I did not see what I saw? How about this.......will the folks who are saying that the media had a conspiracy to show only one kind of picture please back that up with some stats which show the same. I have been told that I live on another planet, and I am on a fantasy train, and not one FACT, or STATISTIC has been presented which proves the proposition that MEDIA conspired to only show certain photos. This is pretty easy to prove, because with all this innuendo and generalizations that media conspired to show certain pictures, I have not seen one person who makes the connection of facts and stats with this belief that MEDIA acted in concert to show only certain pictures......please help me off the train with some facts.

What you saw was continuing coverage and the other side introducing a contrary position.

The vast majority only got the gotcha blitz.

What you saw was continuing coverage and the other side introducing a contrary position.

The vast majority only got the gotcha blitz.


At least you are not calling me a liar, and probably there is some truth in what you say. However, I am looking for a scholarly review of what the media has actually done on this story. I think these wild claims of bias are more indicative of a predetermined view than the reality I saw. It is amazing how some people parrot something as the truth without a scintilla of truth, or even the ability to have analyzed all the media outlets to come out with such utter nonsense. I think of the illusion of a monolithic communist threat to explain every nationalist conflict, and how readily this generalization was accepted without actually looking at the facts in each instance. At least you have brought me back to earth and taken me off the fantasy train.

2seaoat wrote:What you saw was continuing coverage and the other side introducing a contrary position.

The vast majority only got the gotcha blitz.


At least you are not calling me a liar, and probably there is some truth in what you say.  However, I am looking for a scholarly review of what the media has actually done on this story.  I think these wild claims of bias are more indicative of a predetermined view than the reality I saw.  It is amazing how some people parrot something as the truth without a scintilla of truth, or even the ability to have analyzed all the media outlets to come out with such utter nonsense.  I think of the illusion of a monolithic communist threat to explain every nationalist conflict, and how readily this generalization was accepted without actually looking at the facts in each instance.   At least you have brought me back to earth and taken me off the fantasy train.

It is amazing how some people parrot something as the truth without a scintilla of truth, or even the ability to have analyzed all the media outlets to come out with such utter nonsense.


The majority of the news outlets were biased...that is the point.

I found this link interesting...it identifies and exposes myths regarding the case.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-trial-review-how-we-got-here-and-where-were-going/




hyper-sensationalist media has whipped this into a black/white, racial face-off that ended in semi-lynching of an African American not yet 18. NBC News even infamously altered recording of a Zimmerman phone call to make it appear he was racist. Another gold-ribbon day for our severely decomposed information industry.

it identifies and exposes myths regarding the case.



If you think so........I do not think this site is very credible or convincing.

2seaoat wrote:it identifies and exposes myths regarding the case.



If you think so........I do not think this site is very credible or convincing.

Are you saying the media did not create "myths" regarding Zimmerman?

the latest email/internet craze that seems to be hitting the www all of a sudden is this picture of a supposedly 17 year old Trayvon Martin.



however as anyone that is familiar with rap music will know immediately is that this image is of Jayceon Terrell Taylor aka in rap circles as "The Game".

Are you saying the media did not create "myths" regarding Zimmerman?


I am saying that some of the myths which the link called myths were not myths. I am saying that when somebody says MEDIA as an all inclusive term, which usually has the word LIBERAL, it neither describes all the media, nor does it differentiate how the normal range of errors made by the media is now different when dealing with a particular story.

This idea that THEY are manipulating the truth for a particular agenda is where we part company. Historically, media is not objective. Private ownership of newspapers and media outlets has led to a wide variance of opinion. Did the Wall Street Journal or Chicago Tribune have an editorial view......yes they did. Did those newspapers slant stories, yes they did. Did TV portray the Viet Nam war in the early years differently than they did in the early years......yes they did. Is there diversity in opinion in the American media......yes there is......yet you come forward with this theory of monolithic presentation of the Zimmerman case with alleged bias against Zimmerman. Not one scintilla of proof of the same has been posted, and the one link with so called myths is arguably comedy.

The media is first and foremost a part of a capitalistic system where profit drives their direction. There is a wide range of outlets which compete for those media dollars. I do not see a monolithic story. I see with the internet, print, tv, and radio a wide variety of voices which do not speak with this monolithic conspiracy. Am I from another planet, or am I on the fantasy bus............I think I see things clearly.

2seaoat wrote:Are you saying the media did not create "myths" regarding Zimmerman?


I am saying that some of the myths which the link called myths were not myths.   I am saying that when somebody says MEDIA as an all inclusive term, which usually has the word LIBERAL, it neither describes all the media, nor does it differentiate how the normal range of errors made by the media is now different when dealing with a particular story.

This idea that THEY are manipulating the truth for a particular agenda is where we part company.   Historically, media is not objective.  Private ownership of newspapers and media outlets has led to a wide variance of opinion.  Did the Wall Street Journal or Chicago Tribune have an editorial view......yes they did.   Did those newspapers slant stories, yes they did.   Did TV portray the Viet Nam war in the early years differently than they did in the early years......yes they did.   Is there diversity in opinion in the American media......yes there is......yet you come forward with this theory of monolithic presentation of the Zimmerman case with alleged bias against Zimmerman.   Not one scintilla of proof of the same has been posted, and the one link with so called myths is arguably comedy.

The media is first and foremost a part of a capitalistic system where profit drives their direction.   There is a wide range of outlets which compete for those media dollars.  I do not see a monolithic story.   I see with the internet, print, tv, and radio a wide variety of voices which do not speak with this monolithic conspiracy.    Am I from another planet, or am I on the fantasy bus............I think I see things clearly.

What a convoluted way of saying the same thing as Joani... and still disagree with her... I think you like to just write things even if they don't make much sense...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRcPA7Fzebw

We should differentiate between Media and the governments propaganda force which is comprised of most of the main stream outlets.

Of course there was media bias in the reporting of the Zimmerman case.   It;s not surprising that some in the media are still trying to twist the facts of the case or the outcome.

Also, the shooting of a black male by another black male doesn't make national news.  And Sharpton and Jackson don't show up in town.

I agree that propaganda is being spewed......we just disagree a little bit on most of the sources.

I suppose we need to remember it's media and not journalism based on common principles ..... truthfulness, accuracy, objectivity, and fairness.



Accountability will be hidden within lawsuit settlements.

Sal wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:ABC wasn't the only network to repeatedly distort the Zimmerman/Martin news. They all repeatedly showed photos of Trayvon Martin when he was a young teenager. No recent photo was ever broadcast. They did however use a mug shot of George Zimmerman over and over. Is distortion a lie?

 Bullshit. 


The media used the pics of a young Trayvon because they were the pics first provided to them. 


The family provided those pics because they were the most convenient, having been used in his funeral program. 


When pics of an older Trayvon became available, they aired them. 


The media used the Zimmerman mug shot, because it was the first one available. 


When a pic was provided of a smiling Zimmerman in suit and tie became available, they aired it. 


The media is guilty of laziness, not conspiracy. 

You must be a leading consumer of Kool Aid!

VectorMan wrote:I hope Zimmerman takes NBC to the bank for the editing they did to the 911 call.

The liberal media is "still" showing the "young" Trayvon photo when "reporting" stories on the subject. It's censorship to advance an agenda.

For some reason, I haven't seen this one yet.

Yep, racism is alive and well in America. If you do not show the black dead victim as a thug........you might have to deal with his humanity.......it will not be long before photo shop has him stealing a grandmother's purse. At least the Zimmerman case highlights reality.