In looking for the crook you ask who benefits...ask that of 911

http://rense.com/general96/israeli-nsa.html

A previous article discussed Israeli spying on America. The CIA calls
Israel America's main regional spy threat. An Israeli-based CIA
operative once found food in his refrigerator rearranged.
Washington knows what's going on. Publicly it's ignored. Pre-9/11, the
FBI uncovered a massive US-based Israeli spy ring. It remains active.
It betrays America. Numerous Israeli citizens are involved. They have
close ties to foreign military, criminal and intelligence sources. They
reportedly breach US laws with impunity.
Israel's featured prominently in annual FBI reports. It actively seeks
proprietary/secret US information. It's mainly on military systems and
advanced computer applications.
Proprietary commercial and industrial data are stolen. Israel recruits
spies. Sophisticated methods are used. Computers are hacked for
information.
Washington's Government Accountability Office (GAO) said Israel
"conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United
States of any US ally."
The Pentagon accused Israel of "actively engag(ing) in military and
industrial espionage in the United States. An Israeli citizen working in
the US who has access to proprietary information is likely to be a
target of such espionage."
FBI whistleblower John Cole said Justice Department officials ordered
dozens of Israeli espionage cases dropped. At issue was political
pressure.

Your thread title reads "In looking for the crook you ask who benefits...ask that of 911"

But the text in your post is telling us that the CIA and FBI consider Israel to be a threat to the U.S.
That would tend to indicate that if 9/11 was an "inside job" it wouldn't be Israel and the U.S. working together because according to your text they are at odds with each other. So it's implied that Israel engineered the attacks on 9/11.

That makes the whole thing even more remarkable. Because that would mean that Israel without the help of the U.S. on it's own prepared the Twin Towers (and Building 7) for "controlled demolition".
Pretty darn remarkable.

Also your title says for us to "look for who benefits". I'm a little slow on the draw when it comes to this. Help me understand how israel benefited from masterminding 9/11.

Bob wrote:Your thread title reads "In looking for the crook you ask who benefits...ask that of 911"

But the text in your post is telling us that the CIA and FBI consider Israel to be a threat to the us U.S.
That would tend to indicate that if 9/11 was an "inside job" it wouldn't be Israel and the U.S. working together because according to your text they are at odds with each other. So it's implied that Israel engineered the attacks on 9/11.

That makes the whole thing even more remarkable. Because that would mean that Israel without the help of the U.S. on it's own prepared the Twin Towers (and Building 7) for "controlled demolition".
Pretty darn remarkable.

Not really when you see the fact that any honest investigation by honest FBI or CIA gets shutdown..who has that kind of power? Israel has tremendous control of many key American news and information systems not to mention officials. Also there were those dancing Israelis at 911.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:


Not really when you see the fact that any honest investigation by honest FBI or CIA gets shutdown..who has that kind of power? Israel has tremendous control of many key American news and information systems not to mention officials. Also there were those dancing Israelis at 911.

When there are a lot of honest FBI and CIA personnel, it really is mindboggling that not one of them has stepped forward to blow the whistle on the inside job even after 12 years.

Bob wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:


Not really when you see the fact that any honest investigation by honest FBI or CIA gets shutdown..who has that kind of power? Israel has tremendous control of many key American news and information systems not to mention officials. Also there were those dancing Israelis at 911.

When there are a lot of honest FBI and CIA personnel, it really is mindboggling that not one of them has stepped forward to blow the whistle on the inside job even after 12 years.

Some have and what they said was suppressed. You have a controlled media Bob. You think if you walked into CBS with hard evidence on 911 you could just sit down next to the anchorman and start broadcasting...wake up comrade.

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm

Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/fbi-agent-says-he-was-gagged-about-911

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1297030

The Orion Online - Speaker: Bush knew about 9/11
snip

Regarding
the U.S. government's involvement with the terrorist attacks on Sept.
11, Ruppert said many CIA and FBI agents knew they were imminent, but
they were coerced into silence.

"FBI headquarters was punishing
the FBI agents in Minneapolis who knew the attacks were coming," Ruppert
said. "What they had in FBI headquarters was someone very closely
connected to the CIA who was stepping on these investigations."

Ruppert
said FBI Supervisory Special Agent Dave Frasca stopped five
investigations into the possibility of attacks including the suppression
of a Phoenix memo stating members of al Qaeda were enrolling in flight
schools there.

"This is another one of those things in LAPD we used to call a clue," Ruppert said.

Furthermore, those FBI leaders who did the most stonewalling occupied
"critical positions in the FBI SIOC Command Center post September 11."
Rowley is particularly upset that Dave Frasca "actually received a
promotion some months afterwards." (Rowley Report p. 5)

FBI
agents don't get promoted for screwing up; they get promoted for a job
well done. The key areas for further research are connecting the dots in
the chain of command from Dave Frasca to his Unit Chief to the Director
of the FBI to John Ashcroft, the Attorney General and President George
Bush.

Clearly, we have an amazing amount of circumstantial
evidence that the Bush Cabinet knew of a forthcoming terrorist attack
and decided to allow the first hit in order to mobilize the American
People behind their political and economic objectives (crush dissent,
war on Iraq , oil pipelines, etc) Now, researchers need to work their
way up the ladder starting with Dave Frasca;.and, at the same time, work
down the ladder from the Bush Cabinet (the more difficult task). In
time, perhaps decades, with the help of a few defectors, we will be able
to connect all the dots.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Some have and what they said was suppressed. You have a controlled media Bob. You think if you walked into CBS with hard evidence on 911 you could just sit down next to the anchorman and start broadcasting...wake up comrade.

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm

Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media

Well firstly here's the counterpart to "Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US media"...

Do Jews Really Control the Media?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/10/do_jews_really_control_the_media.html

Secondly. Oh absolutely yes I do believe that if someone who was an accomplice to the "9/11 inside job" was to go to "the media" with that information we would learn about it so fast it would make your head spin. "The media" is now comprised of literally thousands of outlets. Alex Jones and a dozen others like him are now part of "the media". And any of those would run with that faster than a speeding bullet.
So would Rense.

Bob wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Some have and what they said was suppressed. You have a controlled media Bob. You think if you walked into CBS with hard evidence on 911 you could just sit down next to the anchorman and start broadcasting...wake up comrade.

http://rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm

Seven Jewish Americans
Control Most US Media

Well firstly here's the counterpart to "Seven Jewish Americans Control Most US media"...

Do Jews Really Control the Media?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/10/do_jews_really_control_the_media.html

Secondly. Oh absolutely yes I do believe that if someone who was an accomplice to the "9/11 inside job" was to go to "the media" with that information we would learn about it so fast it would make your head spin. "The media" is now comprised of literally thousands of outlets. Alex Jones and a dozen others like him are now part of "the media". And any of those would run with that faster than a speeding bullet.

Bob that's my media not yours..you are a mainstream guy....take off those blinders Bob.

Here Bob this guy is on Alex Jones all the time...

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Bob that's my media not yours..you are a mainstream guy....take off those blinders Bob.

I didn't realize that I'm only allowed to take in certain parts of "the media". lol
But even though I'm not allowed to be listening to the same media you do, it's too late because I've already been listening to it. And so far no one who was a party to the "inside job" has been presented on it.

We were talking about people who themselves are claiming they personally participated in the execution of the "inside job", teo.
That doesn't apply to Gunderson or Sabrosky.

A "whistleblower" is not somebody on the outside making claims, teo.
A whistleblower is someone on the inside. And in this case it would be someone who was a party to the inside job.

But you still haven't answered my earlier question. How would it have benefitted Israel to blow up the World Trade Center?

Bob wrote:But you still haven't answered my earlier question. How would it have benefited Israel to blow up the World Trade Center?

You obviously didn't even watch the dancing Israelis film...The Israelis are now key and central to the surveillance state we are becoming. They imported terrorism and then wonder of wonders show up as saviors with vast experience in dealing with terrorists....Bob I will never change your mind on A N Y T H I N G...and I doubt you will me so have a nice day;;;I would say a woman next to the hole in the pentagon was an insider but you would just blah blah blah that away.....

Bob wrote:But you still haven't answered my earlier question. How would it have benefitted Israel to blow up the World Trade Center?

Also Bob have you noticed we are over there killing off all of Israels enemies so they can expand their influence there..Naw you can't see how it would benefit Israel....where's your head Bob ?

The state of Israel was the net winner of the 911 attack. America in their response was attacking enemies of Israel. The enemy of my enemy is my friend would apply. Now the simplistic idea that the Israelis would plant bombs or conspire to do the same is silly. They would have been involved directly or indirectly in contacts with Bin Laden, and would have been working in conjunction with encouraging his terrorism. The rest is really like watching the series Dallas in the 80s. The writer of the storyline in one episode had dialogue which was written about Bobbie being all excited about going on a vacation where they could have a great time at the pool of the hotel............like Bobbie who had mansions and pools was going to get excited about going on a vacation and swimming in the hotel pool.....this told us more about the folks writing the story, than telling us the reality which faced Bobby. The reality is that Israel would never be so stupid to be directly involved in the planning and demolition of an american building. They would however be involved in counter terrorism contacts with groups like Bin Laden, and they certainly could indirectly support some of his actions which would be far enough removed to give them plausible denial.................to listen to the 911 conspiracy theories......it is obvious that they are the ones who are getting excited about going to a hotel swimming pool, as they are incapable of comprehending that Bobbie has his own mansion and pool.

Well in the interests of full disclosure, while I was awaiting your reply I did find the website Real Jew News. It has a 4 minute youtube on it which makes the case for Jews doing 9/11.

Here's the website...

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=647

And here's the youtube presented on it...

Bob wrote:We were talking about people who themselves are claiming they personally participated in the execution of the "inside job", teo.
That doesn't apply to Gunderson or Sabrosky.

Those people are back in Israel or dead or keeping their mouths shut to keep from having themselves and the rest of their DNA eradicated....Catch up later got things to do...

2seaoat wrote:The state of Israel was the net winner of the 911 attack. America in their response was attacking enemies of Israel.

Well no, actually Islamic radicals and jihadists were an enemy to Saddam Hussein and he was an enemy to them. They posed a very real threat to his rule.
It's the hardcore Islamists who are an enemy to Israel. Like the ones running Iran. And all the "war in iraq" accomplished was to strenghten the ties between Iraq and Iran which poses an even bigger threat to Israel.
Sorry Charlie but that one don't fly.

By the way the individual in that video goes by the name of "Brother Nathaniel".



It seems "Brother Nathaniel's" claim to fame is that he hangs out in a traffic island in front of a bar called Trader Joes in Brookline, MA and screams at the patrons.


http://www.universalhub.com/node/9111

http://involuntaryslacker.blogspot.com/2007/06/brookline-police-confront-divine.html

And all the "war in iraq" accomplished was to strenghten the ties between Iraq and Iran which poses an even bigger threat to Israel.
Wrong, Mr. Bob.....how many scuds has Iraq launched.........let us not talk about generalities.....let us enter the Israeli mindset.......a Scud delivered in civilian areas originating from Iraq was a real threat to Israel in 2001 as Saddam was ignoring UN post Gulf War one rules, and many honestly thought they were seeking weapons of mass destruction.......certainly incapable of being delivered to the Americas, but already proven capable of being delivered to Israel.........you are not thinking like the Israelis.......you are thinking like an American.