Self Inflicted Scandals

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

[b]Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds[/b].

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

I wasn't aware of that. Where and when?

LOL!

Regardng Sal's statement:
Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds


OK, maybe it's funny but can you or Sal answer where and when our diplomats were killed inside U.S. consulates or embassies under the Bush administration while receiving no back up security help?

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

[b]Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds[/b].

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

I wasn't aware of that. Where and when?

LOL!

Regardng Sal's statement:
Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds


OK, maybe it's funny but can you or Sal answer where and when our diplomats were killed inside U.S. consulates or embassies under the Bush administration while receiving no back up security help?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/14/krauthammer-whitewashes-bushs-history-to-bash-o/189890

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Five consular employees were killed in one embassy.
Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

[b]Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds[/b].

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

I wasn't aware of that. Where and when?

LOL!

Regardng Sal's statement:
Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds


OK, maybe it's funny but can you or Sal answer where and when our diplomats were killed inside U.S. consulates or embassies under the Bush administration while receiving no back up security help?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/14/krauthammer-whitewashes-bushs-history-to-bash-o/189890

Where and when were U.S. diplomats killed inside embassies or consulates? Your article doesn't say.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Five consular employees were killed in one embassy.
Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

[b]Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds[/b].

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

I wasn't aware of that. Where and when?

LOL!

Regardng Sal's statement:
Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds


OK, maybe it's funny but can you or Sal answer where and when our diplomats were killed inside U.S. consulates or embassies under the Bush administration while receiving no back up security help?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/14/krauthammer-whitewashes-bushs-history-to-bash-o/189890

Where and when were U.S. diplomats killed inside embassies or consulates? Your article doesn't say.

PkrBum wrote:It never has been... or ever will be... under any conditions or circumstances... Obama's fault about anything... ever.

It must tie into the ability to elect a man that you really knew next to nothing about... and then reelect him after he broke most of his promises and followed the bush doctrine the rest of the time. Yet critics are called "low information" and racists by these useful idiots... lol. The msm is even beginning to cover the abuses and overreaches... but I doubt that can fix dumb.

Dreamsglore wrote:Five consular employees were killed in one embassy.

Dreamsglore wrote:March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

PkrBum wrote:It never has been... or ever will be... under any conditions or circumstances... Obama's fault about anything... ever.

It must tie into the ability to elect a man that you really knew next to nothing about... and then reelect him after he broke most of his promises and followed the bush doctrine the rest of the time. Yet critics are called "low information" and racists by these useful idiots... lol. The msm is even beginning to cover the abuses and overreaches... but I doubt that can fix dumb.

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

This was outside the Consulate, not inside. And Bush at least called it terrorism..

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/01/karachi.blast/

A U.S. diplomat and his driver were among at least four people killed in an apparent suicide attack outside the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, officials said.....


Bush said the bombings would not deter plans for his visit.

"Terrorists and killers are not going to prevent me from going to Pakistan," he said, adding the bombing shows the war on terrorism must continue.

Dreamsglore wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

This was outside the Consulate, not inside. And Bush at least called it terrorism..

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/01/karachi.blast/

A U.S. diplomat and his driver were among at least four people killed in an apparent suicide attack outside the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, officials said.....


Bush said the bombings would not deter plans for his visit.

"Terrorists and killers are not going to prevent me from going to Pakistan," he said, adding the bombing shows the war on terrorism must continue.

Oh let's split hairs. You people find the most ridiculous minutia to argue about.

Dreamsglore wrote:

PkrBum wrote:It never has been... or ever will be... under any conditions or circumstances... Obama's fault about anything... ever.

It must tie into the ability to elect a man that you really knew next to nothing about... and then reelect him after he broke most of his promises and followed the bush doctrine the rest of the time. Yet critics are called "low information" and racists by these useful idiots... lol. The msm is even beginning to cover the abuses and overreaches... but I doubt that can fix dumb.

According to you all Obama is responsible ofor every bad thing that ever happened including the Lindbergh kidnapping. He was reelected by the majority of people who thought an still think he is a good president. We did good! Yah!

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Insiders: Enough Benghazi already

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/05/10/the-insiders-enough-benghazi-already/

".....Republicans should certainly give the Benghazi attack the attention it deserves. But we also need to recognize that we aren’t impressing anyone — except maybe a small subset of our base — when we see things that no one else sees and declare any fact that is inconsistent with the narrative we want to be wrong, manufactured or somehow previously unknown and explosive. GOP leaders need to step up, make a couple of Benghazi-related assignments and tell everyone else to move on. If there’s more truth and more news, it will come out. But we have more important things to do...."

So just ignore what when wrong at Benghazi. Yep, President Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton think that's a grand idea. So grand they've already moved on....

Now will someone explain that lack of interest to the families of these folks?

Are you listening, Markle, Pace Dog, Newswatcher, Vectorman, No Chain, and perhaps a handful of others?

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds.

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

Nekochan wrote:
Where and when were U.S. diplomats killed inside embassies or consulates? Your article doesn't say.

VectorMan wrote:

After that, explain how anyone in the Bush admin. lied, covered-up or changed memos about those death during his watch. I think that makes a big difference.[/b]

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:

Nekochan wrote:
Where and when were U.S. diplomats killed inside embassies or consulates? Your article doesn't say.

Neko, do you consider people that were inside the embassy that were killed from a truck bomb being detonated outside as killed inside the embassy? The August 1998 bombing of the US Embassy in Nairobi killed 12 Americans. I understand this discussion is centered around the Bush and Obama Administrations, however if you are talking about Americans killed inside embassies then I believe this incident would be applicable. If it is not applicable to the discussion at hand, then I apologize for sticking my nose into the fray.

VectorMan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

As for using deaths for political purposes, it did not seem to be a problem for most liberals when Bush was president.

There were dozens of attacks on U.S. diplomats under Dubya's watch.

Please provide a single example of liberals politicizing one of those attacks.

Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Try again.

Were there diplomat's deaths inside a consulate or embassy? And no back up security to support and defend the consulate while under attack?

There were deaths under Bush, mostly caused by car bomb attacks and such as that.

Yes, there were deaths of diplomatic personnel inside diplomatic grounds.

Obviously, the security was inadequate to prevent the deaths.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

Try again.

lol

Just for accuracy, please provide a link to support the above highlighted in red.

After that, explain how anyone in the Bush admin. lied, covered-up or changed memos about those death during his watch. I think that makes a big difference.

Sal wrote:

VectorMan wrote:

After that, explain how anyone in the Bush admin. lied, covered-up or changed memos about those death during his watch. I think that makes a big difference.[/b]

No one lied or covered up anything, and we don't know how memos were massaged during the Dubya administration because no one has ever givena a shit how memos were massaged before.

Wingnuts have had five long years of pent-up angst waiting for any kind of scandal.

They have an outragegasm at every little anomaly.

It's insane.

Sal wrote:Jebus ...

... do your own research next time.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/06/jeddah.attack/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD

Nekochan wrote:

From your article:

Five consular employees -- four local staff members and a contract guard -- were also killed

How are these U.S. Diplomats?

Nekochan wrote:
Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

From your article:

Five consular employees -- four local staff members and a contract guard -- were also killed

How are these U.S. Diplomats?

I said "diplomatic personnel on diplomatic grounds".

You said;

Nekochan wrote:
Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

Nekochan wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

From your article:

Five consular employees -- four local staff members and a contract guard -- were also killed

How are these U.S. Diplomats?

I said "diplomatic personnel on diplomatic grounds".

You said;

Nekochan wrote:
Of course there were attacks on diplomats under Bush. But no deaths at a U.S. consulate or U.S. embassy

I know what I said and I was referring to attacks and deaths of diplomats inside consulates and embassies.
Non-American consulate employees are not diplomatic personnel.