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1Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Empty Sea Shepherd Conservation Society 7/20/2012, 10:01 pm

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This is only to see if there are any local S.S.C.S supporters in the area, that would be interested in connecting , I am not in any way an official rep from the S.S.C.S just a local supporter/volunteer looking for others that might want to eventually set up a local fundraising booth, and discuss about other things of interest.

feel free to email me for info on a friendly SSCS forum, and just to say hi or let me know if you would be interested in a fundraising booth in the near future. If there are enough of us, the next step would be applying as an onshore volunteer with the S.S.C.S so they can know there is enough of us here for fundraising/awarness booth.


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dragonmonkey wrote:This is only to see if there are any local S.S.C.S supporters in the area, that would be interested in connecting , I am not in any way an official rep from the S.S.C.S just a local supporter/volunteer looking for others that might want to eventually set up a local fundraising booth, and discuss about other things of interest.

feel free to email me for info on a friendly SSCS forum, and just to say hi or let me know if you would be interested in a fundraising booth in the near future. If there are enough of us, the next step would be applying as an onshore volunteer with the S.S.C.S so they can know there is enough of us here for fundraising/awarness booth.



I do not and will not support causes that takes the law into their own hands. Destroying property and ships that do not belong to them etc.etc. What they are doing is nothing more that vigilantism. Paul Watson is the scourge of the earth. Paul Watson was convicted in Norway in 1997 and has an outstanding warrant in Costa Rica for the attempted murder of a fisherman.

If the SSCS believes that the Japanese are doing something illegal, then why not allow the proper authorities to handle the situation inside of going after them with death and destruction in mind.

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My husband and might be interested. We are long time fans of SSCS and have supported them financially. I would like to be involved in a local effort. Thanks.

4Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Empty no need to debate 7/21/2012, 2:22 pm

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For those of you here who do support the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, please do not feel the need to debate those here who don't,

I will private message those who are supporters who post in this thread, or if you are a suppoter simply private message and i will get back to you a.s.a.p .

for those of you who don't support the S.S.C.S or hate them, feel free to start your own thread for just that.

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dragonmonkey wrote:For those of you here who do support the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, please do not feel the need to debate those here who don't

With all due respect, Dragonmonkey, this is a Forum. It is appropriate for us to comment... just as it is appropriate for you to offer your solicitation...

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Yes, Paul Watson is a publicity-seeking, arrogant vigilante. He doesn't like humans and he'll do most anything it takes to protect wildlife....and I support him 100%.

My husband and I very seriously considered applying as hands on the Sea Shepherd, but we're both getting a little long in the tooth for that type of thing.

DragonMonkey, feel free to express your reasons for supporting Sea Shepherd on this forum. It's a good place to do it. And yes, I'm interested in helping locally.

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If the SSCS believes that the Japanese are doing something illegal, then why not allow the proper authorities to handle the situation inside of going after them with death and destruction in mind.

Destruction, yes; death, no.

If the "proper authorities" had the cajones to handle the situation, there'd be no need for Watson's wonderful shenanigans. Unfortunately, there is no "proper authority" that is willing to go up against the Japanese on this issue, even though what the Japanese are doing is illegal.

If there is any hate in my heart, it is for those who would destroy animals and mammals for pure malice or financial gain.

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Yomama wrote:
dragonmonkey wrote:For those of you here who do support the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, please do not feel the need to debate those here who don't

With all due respect, Dragonmonkey, this is a Forum. It is appropriate for us to comment... just as it is appropriate for you to offer your solicitation...

I would like to solicitate some sexyness in this forum.

Can the guest all please take their viagra and meet me in the lobby

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Yomama wrote:
dragonmonkey wrote:For those of you here who do support the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, please do not feel the need to debate those here who don't

With all due respect, Dragonmonkey, this is a Forum. It is appropriate for us to comment... just as it is appropriate for you to offer your solicitation...

You are right Yo it is a forum both good and bad and I will continue to post my disdain for Paul Watson and his ilk. For those that support him and his philosophy, in my opinion you are as much of a law breaker as he is.

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You are right Yo it is a forum both good and bad and I will continue to post my disdain for Paul Watson and his ilk. For those that support him and his philosophy, in my opinion you are as much of a law breaker as he is.

Oh, probably so, though I haven't broken any local or IRS laws lately. Evil or Very Mad Not even a speeding ticket.

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Japanese Whalers Acknowledge Sea Shepherd Success




Operation No Compromise Officially recognized by the Japanese Whalers as a Victory for Sea Shepherd Conservation Society



Sea Shepherd Conservation Society News_120704_1_1_120217_BR_Steve_Irwin_Yushin_circling_DSC7909-1

File: Steve Irwin and Yushin Maru circle
Highlights
of the “Cruise Report of the Second Phase of the Japanese Whale
‘Research’ Program in the Antarctic (JARPAII) in 2011/2012”


- Authors:
1) The Institute of Cetacean Research

2) Kyodo Senpaku Kaisya Ltd.


Unfortunately the research activities were interrupted several times by an anti-whaling group (SSCS)


Captain Paul Watson:
That was the objective however this should
be changed to: Unfortunately the illegal commercial whaling activities
were interrupted several times by an anti-whaling group (SSCS)


As a result the planned dedicated sighting survey was cancelled in the
whole research area because the two Yushin Maru’s had to dedicate to
security tasks



Captain Paul Watson: Two of the three harpoon vessels were taken out of the game for the whole season. Major victory.

The research activity of the SSV (Yushin Maru No.1 - the lead harpoon vessel) was also interrupted several times.


Captain Paul Watson: Two totally disrupted and the third partially disrupted. Love the acknowledgement.

The total searching distance was 3,040.5 nautical miles by the fleet,
which was approximately one-third of the searching distance in ‘normal’
(pre-SSCS intervention) years.t


Captain Paul Watson:
Wonderful news. They are yearning for the pre-SSSC intervention days.

The research activities of the JARPA II survey in 2011/12 was again
interrupted by the SS (SSCS) first during the transit survey from Japan
to the research area and throughout the 2011/12 research period


Captain Paul Watson:
Yes we forced them from west of Australia
to the Ross Sea causing them to waste a great deal of fuel and time.
That was our intention and it was realized.


In order to secure safety for the research vessels and their crew
members, the planned sighting vessels had to dedicate many of its
planned research time to security tasks. It was very regrettable and
disappointing to report that this large investment - dedicated sighting
survey in the Antarctic - had to be cancelled in the 2011/12 season


Captain Paul Watson: Yes so regrettable and so disappointing. Not for us of course. Great results in our opinion.

‘Research’ vessels were frequently attacked by the anti-whaling group
(SSCS) and the survey was interrupted in several opportunities.



Captain Paul Watson:
Should be poachers were frequently reminded
that their whaling killing activities in the Southern Ocean Whale
Sanctuary are not welcome.


As a consequence vessels YS3 and YS2 had to dedicate to search and
monitor the anti-whaling group vessels most of the research period



Captain Paul Watson:
That was of course our intention i.e. to keep them from killing whales and we are very pleased at the results.

Unfortunately the research activity was interrupted for over 15 days by
directed violent sabotage activities of the SS. Therefore the research
of most part of Ross Sea in Area V, East-North Area V, West-North Area
VI and some other parts had to be cancelled



Captain Paul Watson: YES!!!! Cancelled – love it!


The Japanese whaling industry suffered another humiliating defeat this
last season at the hands of passionate volunteers dedicated to ending
illegal Japanese whaling operations in the Southern Ocean Whale
Sanctuary. Operation No Compromise was a complete success and a great
victory for the whales.


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Those SSCS guys and gals definately push the envelope and probably do some good. The Japanese are lying through their teeth with that research vessel BS. On the other hand, I have not figured out why the Japanese dont open up on the little boats with AK 47s when they fly up on em slinging acid jars. That stuff could injure a japanese fisherman seriously and could kill him if it hit him in the right spot.

Changed Jap to japanese so as to not sound racist.



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Chrissy8 wrote:Can the guest all please take their viagra and meet me in the lobby

Razz

I have never needed Viagra... yet. My wonderful bride of 34 years hasn't complained... yet ;-)

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Yomama wrote:
Chrissy8 wrote:Can the guest all please take their viagra and meet me in the lobby

Razz

I have never needed Viagra... yet. My wonderful bride of 34 years hasn't complained... yet ;-)

Thats sexy. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Costa Rica has a warrant out for Paul Watson's arrest on attempted murder charges.

You are correct GUNZ, they probably have done some good, but in my opinion that go about it the wrong way.

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Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Costa Rica has a warrant out for Paul Watson's arrest on attempted murder charges.

You are correct GUNZ, they probably have done some good, but in my opinion that go about it the wrong way.

its ok to kill people as long as you are saving animals.

you understand that mentality Im sure from being around here

18Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Empty views vs comments 7/21/2012, 11:29 pm

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interesting to see at least two Sea Shepherd supporters out of 143 views thus far.

and i am not surprised by the negative comments, it is nothing new ,

anyhow for those of you supporters that are still out there either drop a quick hello in the thread or p/m me for more details.

i will have to remember that people here do not mind throwing a thread off track, some forums tend to like to keep things moderated/ and threads on track, but if that isn't the case here i will be sure to have some fun later on other threads.

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dragonmonkey wrote:interesting to see at least two Sea Shepherd supporters out of 143 views thus far.

and i am not surprised by the negative comments, it is nothing new ,

anyhow for those of you supporters that are still out there either drop a quick hello in the thread or p/m me for more details.

i will have to remember that people here do not mind throwing a thread off track, some forums tend to like to keep things moderated/ and threads on track, but if that isn't the case here i will be sure to have some fun later on other threads.

this forum isnt moderated

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dragonmonkey wrote:interesting to see at least two Sea Shepherd supporters out of 143 views thus far.

and i am not surprised by the negative comments, it is nothing new ,

anyhow for those of you supporters that are still out there either drop a quick hello in the thread or p/m me for more details.

i will have to remember that people here do not mind throwing a thread off track, some forums tend to like to keep things moderated/ and threads on track, but if that isn't the case here i will be sure to have some fun later on other threads.

Hey monkey you came here on your own and supposedly read the Terms before signing up and knew this was an non-moderated forum. So don't blame your detractors. You were soliciting support for SSCS and some of us happen to not hold the same view as you about this criminal activity. We voiced our reasons for not supporting SSCS and you say we are throwing the thread off topic. How can that be since we are still talking about SSCS? When you post a topic you have to be able to accept the good with the bad.

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Chrissy8 wrote:
Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Costa Rica has a warrant out for Paul Watson's arrest on attempted murder charges.

You are correct GUNZ, they probably have done some good, but in my opinion that go about it the wrong way.

its ok to kill people as long as you are saving animals.

you understand that mentality Im sure from being around here

No it is not alright to kill people to save animals, it is also not right to kill animals in the name of research either. But the way that the SSCS goes about it is all wrong and is criminal. I refuse to support any activity that carries out their mission in any way that is criminal.

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Ghost_Rider1 wrote:
Chrissy8 wrote:
Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Costa Rica has a warrant out for Paul Watson's arrest on attempted murder charges.

You are correct GUNZ, they probably have done some good, but in my opinion that go about it the wrong way.

its ok to kill people as long as you are saving animals.

you understand that mentality Im sure from being around here

No it is not alright to kill people to save animals, it is also not right to kill animals in the name of research either. But the way that the SSCS goes about it is all wrong and is criminal. I refuse to support any activity that carries out their mission in any way that is criminal.

my comment was retorical. I certainly dont beleive that.

However I am perfectly fine with the killing of animals to save human life.

I work with antibodies on a daily basis that saves human life, there is no way this would be possible without the sacrafice of mice, goat, rabbit and other creatures.

I use many products that required the sacrafice of animals.

I also eat many products that required the sacrafice of animals.

I am not ashamed of any of that.

Now with all that said, I am a big advocate of tending to our nature and its species. Because I love nature and animals, specially dolphins as most of us know. But I with you and some others dont support the tactics these people use.

Most of societies problems are the result of ignorance.

and ignorance has been pushed on society by those who wish to keep us ignorant. It's rampant in this group.

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Whatever, Chrissy.

The next time you see a picture of a dolphin or whale that has been senselessly slaughtered for fun or profit, just know that there are people out there who are willing to do something to stop it. If international law had been effective, there would be no need for groups like Sea Shepherd. Once again, no country - NONE - has the balls to enforce international law where Japan is concerned.

Nobody - NOBODY - said humans should be killed instead of animals. That was your line of thinking only. Black/white, yet again.

I would really like to know what some of you naysayers propose as a solution to this international problem. You call the Sea Shepherd group lawbreakers, yet you say little or nothing about the original lawbreakers - the Japanese whalers who do their deed under the guise of research.

So, Chrissy - since you are so non-ignorant, how do you propose to solve this? Or can you even discuss this without resorting to name-calling ("bitch", "old hag", "c")?

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Chrissy8 wrote:
my comment was retorical. I certainly dont beleive that.

However I am perfectly fine with the killing of animals to save human life.

I work with antibodies on a daily basis that saves human life, there is no way this would be possible without the sacrafice of mice, goat, rabbit and other creatures.

I use many products that required the sacrafice of animals.

I also eat many products that required the sacrafice of animals.

I am not ashamed of any of that.

Now with all that said, I am a big advocate of tending to our nature and its species. Because I love nature and animals, specially dolphins as most of us know. But I with you and some others dont support the tactics these people use.

Most of societies problems are the result of ignorance.

and ignorance has been pushed on society by those who wish to keep us ignorant. It's rampant in this group.

Sorry about that. What I meant was that I believe that animal research is integral part of our lives and has done a greater good to human society. However I do not believe that the Japanese or the Canadians et al are killing the animals in the name of research as they proclaim. Their claims are nothing more than a ruse. I would fully support the SSCS in their endeavor if they were carrying it out lawfully. However Paul Watson is underhanded in so many way that it is unbelievable. When the Japanese ship struck the Ady Gil in 2010, Peter Bethune, the builder and captain of the vessel stated that the Ady Gil could have been repaired and made fully seaworthy again, but Watson ordered it to be sunk just to garner sympathy for the cause.

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Sorry about that. What I meant was that I believe that animal research is integral part of our lives and has done a greater good to human society. However I do not believe that the Japanese or the Canadians et al are killing the animals in the name of research as they proclaim. Their claims are nothing more than a ruse. I would fully support the SSCS in their endeavor if they were carrying it out lawfully. However Paul Watson is underhanded in so many way that it is unbelievable. When the Japanese ship struck the Ady Gil in 2010, Peter Bethune, the builder and captain of the vessel stated that the Ady Gil could have been repaired and made fully seaworthy again, but Watson ordered it to be sunk just to garner sympathy for the cause.[/quote]

Now Ghost, you do have a point here. If anyone would know the particulars of that situation, it would be Peter Bethune. However, after seeing the remains of the Ady Gil after it was struck by the Japanese ship, I have to wonder if Bethune was engaging in some wishful thinking.

I don't disagree that Watson is well-known for doing whatever it takes to publicize the cause. He is the first to admit that. In that regard, I can appreciate his self-honesty, even though some may not approve of his character. From all I have read, Watson knows himself pretty well, and those who interact with him had best know him, too, before they choose to hook up with him.* I mean, if I can recognize that truth from my armchair, it seems that Peter Bethune and his crew would know that as well.

That said, the situation with the Ady Gil was a tragedy, and so sad.


* It's like the old snake and frog joke, where the snake tells the frog, "You knew I was a snake before you asked me to carry you across the pond."

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