Employers use LEGAL loopholes to dodge Obamacare...Obama seeks the IRS hounds on them....

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The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

These comrades need a little re-education upon collective edicts... resistance is futile.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/628#.UP1fMWfdoaZ


The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

Small businesses will get tax credits to help pay for Obamacare while large one's are just too greedy to help their employees. What does that say about our country? I think people should avoid businesses that do that. It's really sad what our country has become.

That's why health insurance should NOT be a function of employment.

Dreamsglore wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/628#.UP1fMWfdoaZ


The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

Small businesses will get tax credits to help pay for Obamacare while large one's are just too greedy to help their employees. What does that say about our country? I think people should avoid businesses that do that. It's really sad what our country has become.

Every small business owner I know would love to offer full benefits to their employees because it makes for better more productive employees. Employees are more likely to stay with a company if they offer full benefits (Healthcare, dental, vision, retirement) but most small businesses can not afford it and survive. Greed isn't the issue, survival is the issue. Everything has increased, material, labor, utilities, insurance, fuel, fees, taxes, and advertising. Small businesses have to compete with the mega chains so they have to keep prices competitive with the mega chain but without the luxury of having a massive bankroll to rely on. If small businesses pass on these increase healthcare cost they will be cutting their own throat, if they do not pass the cost along they will not survive.

Quickburger closed last week. It had been in Milton for as long as I can remember. I spoke with the lady that owned it and she was very frustrated about all the new stuff coming down, you could tell she loved her employees but was finally defeated by taxes and regulations..guess she just gave up...

alecto wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/628#.UP1fMWfdoaZ


The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

Small businesses will get tax credits to help pay for Obamacare while large one's are just too greedy to help their employees. What does that say about our country? I think people should avoid businesses that do that. It's really sad what our country has become.

Every small business owner I know would love to offer full benefits to their employees because it makes for better more productive employees. Employees are more likely to stay with a company if they offer full benefits (Healthcare, dental, vision, retirement) but most small businesses can not afford it and survive. Greed isn't the issue, survival is the issue. Everything has increased, material, labor, utilities, insurance, fuel, fees, taxes, and advertising. Small businesses have to compete with the mega chains so they have to keep prices competitive with the mega chain but without the luxury of having a massive bankroll to rely on. If small businesses pass on these increase healthcare cost they will be cutting their own throat, if they do not pass the cost along they will not survive.

What part of tax credits do you not understand? The small businesses do not have to pay the healthcare costs. The tax credits subsidize that.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Quickburger closed last week. It had been in Milton for as long as I can remember. I spoke with the lady that owned it and she was very frustrated about all the new stuff coming down, you could tell she loved her employees but was finally defeated by taxes and regulations..guess she just gave up...

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So she used the "new stuff coming down" as an excuse to do what she wanted all along. She threw in the towel.

Why not sell the bid'nez...? If it had a good product w/ a faithful customer base, why close it...?

Dreamsglore wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/628#.UP1fMWfdoaZ


The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

Small businesses will get tax credits to help pay for Obamacare while large one's are just too greedy to help their employees. What does that say about our country? I think people should avoid businesses that do that. It's really sad what our country has become.

Show the link for small biznex getting tax breaks for buying health ins for thier employees?

The penalty is $2000. per employee who works over 30 a week.

The tax credits go towards the people who buy thier own insurance.
Here's a calculator to here a person can figure up what thier subsidy is for pruchasing ins.
http://healthreform.kff.org/Home/KHS/SubsidyCalculator.aspx?source=FS.

this could happen.Obamacare will provide subsidized healthcare to 83% of small business owners who are currently uninsured. < through exchanges, which I dont beleive we have.


• On average, a small businesses will pay about 18% more than a larger business for the same health coverage.


http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-smallbusiness.php

the penalty is less than purchasing ins. This mess was set up to fail

Here's the goal srew up healthcare so bad eventually everbody has gov ins. thats the goal anyway. but a lot of people are going to die and many are going to suffer in the mean while.

I read somewhere the other day while trying to learn about something about obumacare and how it would apply to me with a couple of medical problems and saw 2 part time employees would equal 1 full time employee and then it went on to say I believe that if an employer had a payroll of 1500 hours a week he could consider himself a business over 50, therefore someone with 40 employee's right now may be considered a 50 plus business if they threw in a couple of part timers. I think something is really screwed up.

The revenuers are coming!!!!!

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

Dreamsglore wrote:

alecto wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/628#.UP1fMWfdoaZ


The gloves are coming off. We're 11 months from full implementation and the real-world impact of Obamacare is hitting the newswires. Taco Bell and Wendy's just cut the hours of hundreds of employees to avoid the Obamacare employer health insurance mandate. These workers will not only not have health insurance, they will have less money to pay for it and may be forced into Medicaid under the individual mandate.
Now, the Internal Revenue Service is warning employers not to avoid the employer mandate. The IRS issued a 144-page notice which says they will soon issue proposed regulations with "anti-abuse rules."

This means penalties. The IRS intends to penalize any employer who dares to follow the law by finding the Obamacare's legal loopholes and employing perfectly legal tactics to avoid its penalties. These legal tactics are nothing new. But President Obama doesn't like it so he's called out the IRS bloodhounds.

In fact, nothing in the Obamacare law says employers can't cut hours, re-hire, split companies into separate legal entities to shrink the size of the company to the requisite penalty-avoiding 49 employees, or use temporary agencies. As the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) states, "A business can avoid the penalties by firing employees, by not hiring new ones, by replacing full-timers with part-timers, or by outsourcing."

Small businesses will get tax credits to help pay for Obamacare while large one's are just too greedy to help their employees. What does that say about our country? I think people should avoid businesses that do that. It's really sad what our country has become.

Every small business owner I know would love to offer full benefits to their employees because it makes for better more productive employees. Employees are more likely to stay with a company if they offer full benefits (Healthcare, dental, vision, retirement) but most small businesses can not afford it and survive. Greed isn't the issue, survival is the issue. Everything has increased, material, labor, utilities, insurance, fuel, fees, taxes, and advertising. Small businesses have to compete with the mega chains so they have to keep prices competitive with the mega chain but without the luxury of having a massive bankroll to rely on. If small businesses pass on these increase healthcare cost they will be cutting their own throat, if they do not pass the cost along they will not survive.

What part of tax credits do you not understand? The small businesses do not have to pay the healthcare costs. The tax credits subsidize that.

Subsidize, not pay for, plus, where does that money come from? China?