There you go. Pkrs still here and is actually goading the form to argue with him.
So what's the response :Dude's stump-stupid. The only courtesy he could do would be leaving.
Pkr is, and has been for years, a q-anon spouting troll on the forum, but he's been here forever and has never, as far as I know, went after any other forum member in their private lives. He's all about arguing politics and he has a strong enough ego not to give a damn what other people think about him.
So who's gone after him in his private life? Y'know, a few months back he thought I was doxing him because I got close to a bone with a tossed-off insult. I wasn't trying to dox him -- I don't and won't do that -- but, his flipping out made me curious so I actually looked him up a little just to see why he thought it was possible. Took me five minutes using very conventional methods, nothing even close to hacking of any sort (I don't even have those skills) and... dumbass doesn't cover his tracks well at all. If somebody's going to go out of their way to be an irritant to people online, they really ought to be smarter about it. Because now - due to his own sloppiness -- I could
dox him. I'm not going to, I'm not threatening to, word is bond no matter how much I hate him, I value my personal honor more than I do whatever "points" I could score by playing dirty on some stupid internet squabble, forum shit is not even remotely worth any of that, but... dude's avoiding real trouble only because of the kindness and sense of honor of someone who can't fucking stand him.
If he wants to keep doing the shit he does, he's not always going to be able to count on everybody treating him that honorably. This isn't the only place he's an asshole. It isn't even the place where he's the worst
asshole. Twitter already kicked his ass off permanently for making threats.
I've dealt with trolls before in various capacities, and worse ones -- I've been involved in busting some Nazi boards. I've seen people really fuck up their lives trolling people, and over some stupid
stuff. I've seen marriages break up over stupid TV show fandom! The internet is full of some very fucked-up people. And a lot
of them would not be lenient about it, especially as sociopathic as a lot of people out there are these days. It's a fucking dumb
game he's playing. If I could find that info that fast, anybody could find it. I won't say what search I did because I don't trust anybody else to have the same limits and I don't want to help them replicate it and do something I wouldn't do, but... it's beyond dumb to go around that bare-assed, being the kind of prick he's being, and as widely as he's being it.
And I beg to differ with you: he is not "all about arguing politics." What he's all about is generally abusing
anyone who doesn't agree with him. I learned that REAL fast after I got here. On one board we're talking nice-nice about our cats and stuff, and then he's calling everyone "comrade" and accusing them of the worst things he can think of...while his behavior's far worse. I watched how he treated people here, and all the friendly-feeling our chats about cats and such ever built up went away FAST because I read it for what it was -- a set-up so he could get in a position to troll you later. He's only nice so he can keep abusing you. He made me regret
being friendly with him, and, man, I hate
it when somebody does that, it's one of my least favorite things. It's like being played for a sucker.
So, I started treating him in kind. Damn if I'm gonna waste politeness on someone who'll only use it against me. And he does it to everyone.
And I'm not going to pretend to be okay with that when I'm not.
He's not here to make political points. He knows he won't. All he wants to do is wreck everyone else's conversations. He's a sadist, and sees us as flies he can pull the wings off of. That's it. And that's the difference between him and everyone else on this board. He just manipulates. Hell, he's not even honest about his stance on anything.
Look at what he DOES and compare it to what he SAYS.
He says he hates Nazis... but every time somebody opposes them, who does he scream about and spend all his time faulting? He even claims he doesn't like Trump... but if anybody says anything against his policies, he attacks 'em. He supports everything the bastard does, but won't even cop to it. If you back everything someone does, and you fight against everyone who's against that person... then it doesn't matter if you say
you support them or not, because what's the fucking difference? Actions do all the real talking.
If he was at all not just trolling, you'd think he'd agree on something once in a while. He never fucking does. He just LIES TO YOU so he can manipulate you, get you to keep tolerating him so he can abuse you more.
It's a damn pattern with these people. It's how they work. SEE IT. Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do, and you'll see
who they are.
Lively forums are lively because of disagreement, and there is none left on this site. It's mostly because the liberals on here are so non-liberal that they don't want to hear other opinions, no matter how silly they may seem to some.
I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. There's a difference between trolling and "hearing opinions." I'll discuss things with Gatorfan, because Gatorfan's someone I disagree with, not a troll. He's a shit to me sometimes, and I'm a shit to him back, but I'm not trying to run him off. Pkr's different because all he's here to do is abuse.
He brings up ridiculous horseshit to cause distractions. That's not "lively," that's tiresome and an utterly unrewarding waste of time. And it's a long-established pattern. He doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt anymore. I've been through that and paid for it.
I don't know about you, but I'm not kindly going to put up with an abuser. I can take it, I can be a mean bastard and I will be if I run into someone who deserves it and I'll take whatever I get back for doing it, but he abuses people whether they deserve it or not. I'm not putting up with it.
That's exactly why there's nobody much left.
This is the truth, believe it or not.
There's nobody much left because a lot of the people who used the forum most died.
What are you suggesting? That we put up with Pkr? Is there any
benefit to that? The dude's a idiot and an abusive jerk. Talking to him is never
anything but a complete waste of time and a distraction from more worthwhile things. If all this board was was talking to a immoral failure like Pkr, then it wouldn't be worth having.
I don't know what dysfunctional universe the kind of interaction people have with him might be considered "discussion" or "debate." It isn't.
But you don't believe it. Because what it says is that your own egos are not strong enough to bear talking to people who you don't agree with.You have to chase them away or send them packing.
. There is ONE person I'd like to see gone, and it's not because he disagrees with me... it's because he's a person of zero worth and is here only to abuse. Ain't a damn
thing about egos. I'm on dozens of boards, I got blogs, I write a lot of different things, I do a lotta
stuff that I don't share here. There is absolutely no
ego-gold to be gained on a little board nobody was reading even when it was at its height. My ego doesn't need this at all.
If this is an ego-place for anybody... that's sad and they need bigger egos. I think you badly overestimate what's going on here. Nobody's wanting him gone because he disagrees. They want him gone because all he's here to do is irritate. I've disagreed with pretty much everyone here at some point or another -- sometimes civilly, sometimes harshly, depending on what went on, but there's only ONE
I consider an actual detriment to the place that it'd be far better off without... and that's Pkr. And that's because he's not here to do anything but troll. He contributes to the board like a swarm of fire ants contribute to a picnic. You want that?
It's become a teenie-tiny club.
Enjoy each other, because you are all you've got left.
Dude, this ain't even a fraction
of what I've got. I still write on it because I like a lot of the people here and want to help them keep it going. Now, if you think I'm in the way
of doing that... say so. I'll go with consensus. Want me gone, you and RealLinda and Floridatexan and Sal and Boards and Polecat and Wordslinger and Othershoe and Tel and, hell, even Gator let me know. If even a few of you think I'm being detrimental to the place in any way then I'll be gone and with no hard feelings. If I'm ruining this place in any way for anyone but the place's one troll, then... I don't wanna be here. That's not what I ever want to do. So let me know and that'll be it, no harm, no foul, and with well-wishes for you all when I leave.
If I do stay, though, I'm gonna keep calling an abuser an abuser. And if I talk to him at all, I'm going to treat him in kind. Because to me, he's not any better than somebody who beats his wife or slaps around his child or paints racial slurs on some minority's garage... because his purpose is the same, his behavior is the same, he does it for the same sort of reasons, and I do not put up with that shit, bud.
Nope. Not in my presence, not to people I like. Asking me to leave is not too much to ask. Asking me to stay and put up with somebody who treats people the way he does, is.
And I hope Joanie Maroni fell off the face of the earth.
Now let's see if she comes back.
I won't pretend to be a big Joni fan but I hope she's doing well and wish her no ill. I hope she's doing something she enjoys more, and if she wants to come back, I hope she will.