How to destroy the NRA ...

There's also this, which I posted in another thread:

How Banks Could Control Gun Sales if Washington Won’t

In the aftermath of the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., that killed 17 students and staff members — and at a time when Washington shows little interest in limiting the sales of assault weapons — there’s a real opportunity for the business community to fill the void and prove that all that talk about moral responsibility isn’t hollow.

What if the finance industry — credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard and American Express; credit card processors like First Data; and banks like JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo — were to effectively set new rules for the sales of guns in America?

Collectively, they have more leverage over the gun industry than any lawmaker. And it wouldn’t be hard for them to take a stand.

PayPal, Square, Stripe and Apple Pay announced years ago that they would not allow their services to be used for the sale of firearms.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/business/banks-gun-sales.html



Apparently, bank execs are paying attention--at least in Omaha:

Omaha bank ends business relationship with NRA

First National Bank of Omaha said Thursday that it would end its business relationship with the National Rifle Association (NRA) after feedback from customers.

In a post on its official Twitter account Thursday, the bank announced it would no longer renews its contract with the NRA.

“Customer feedback has caused us to review our relationship with the NRA,” the bank wrote. “As a result, First National Bank of Omaha will not renew its contract with the National Rifle Association to issue the NRA Visa Card.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375140-first-national-bank-of-omaha-ends-business-relationship-with

The NRA is a political organization which has instilled fear into America to increase gun sales. A bank will do nothing to stop the sale of guns. Medical pot must be paid for by cash because federal laws do not allow banks to participate in those transactions. All I need to do is get a cashiers check, and put a special endorsement on the back which says pay to the order of killer gun sales, and then sign the check which like medical pot where there is a demand there is a means.

This requires sportsman to take back from this political organization the gun safety discussion. My legislative proposal is simple. If you do not transport a gun beyond your home, Government stays out of your business with the exception that a national foid car will issue which is chipped and can sync with guns and carriers. If you have a legacy gun and want to leave your home with the same, it must be transported by federal permit which can be secured on a smart phone application instantly, and all guns being transported must be stored in an approved carrier case, and the gun and case are synced with the foid card

How can we bring gun safety to American citizens. Not by threatening to take guns away from folks who want to protect their homes and person. We have quit talking to each other. The evil NRA, and the socialist gun safety people. Nonsense. We issue transport permits for hazardous materials, for overloads, and for overweights which can be secured in minutes online by giving the trailer id, the route, the date and times, and the purpose of the trip. We get online hunting and fishing permits from our phones, and we can get an uber on a phone app which was not even a concept twenty five years ago. The second amendment protects all arms being owned by citizens which was manufactured before 1800 and any attempt to take those arms will be found to be unconstitutional, but congress pursuant to the Supreme Court can regulate all other guns outside the home. This is simple, intuitive, and in a generation guns will be registered and chipped, or a person transporting the same will be given a three day mandatory jail sentence as they are investigated during that three day period to determine if it was a good faith mistake, or needs a criminal referral which would be a simple probable cause hearing after three days in jail. This is stupid to allow the two radical far right and far left hijack our country. Gun safety first and damn the politics.

All while a psycho ignores your bs and slips through the cracks to stroll into a school full of sitting ducks.

Thanks

People will slip through the cracks. Safety addresses the volume of risk and not promising to eliminate all risks. The logic by folks who need to think about concepts is that any safety measure which does not eliminate 100% risk is unworthy. That logic is myopic and requires seeing three moves ahead in a chess game. There will be significant drops in gun deaths in America if we start requiring gun transport permits. This is not a 100% answer, but I would argue that refocusing on the transport of weapons rather than type of weapon held by lawful citizens in their homes, we could have thousands of lives saved each year.

In regard to medical pot, I have not taken a dose for almost three weeks as it offers no benefit to the increasing liver pain. So my ideas are not influenced by drugs. If they are crazy and illogical, I claim ownership, but I have been told the same for almost forty years, and certainly Mrs. Seaoat might agree with you.

2seaoat wrote:People will slip through the cracks.  Safety addresses the volume of risk and not promising to eliminate all risks.  The logic by folks who need to think about concepts is that any safety measure which does not eliminate 100% risk is unworthy.  That logic is myopic and requires seeing three moves ahead in a chess game.  There will be significant drops in gun deaths in America if we start requiring gun transport permits.  This is not a 100% answer, but I would argue that refocusing on the transport of weapons rather than type of weapon held by lawful citizens in their homes, we could have thousands of lives saved each year.

In regard to medical pot, I have not taken a dose for almost three weeks as it offers no benefit to the increasing liver pain.  So my ideas are not influenced by drugs.  If they are crazy and illogical, I claim ownership, but I have been told the same for almost forty years, and certainly Mrs. Seaoat might agree with you.

The problem is that your idea of getting every gun in America fitted with a microchip, which would be synced to both a "foid card" and a firearms transport case is mindbogglingly impractical. We can't even get reasonable gun control legislation passed, much less the complex proposal you recommend.

As far as the weed thing goes, you were touting the hell out of it just a few weeks ago--I was a little envious. What happened?

I meant my remarks in the spirit of the gentle joshing one friend would do to another. If I gave offense, I apologize.

PkrBum wrote:All while a psycho ignores your bs and slips through the cracks to stroll into a school full of sitting ducks.

Thanks

With a rifle provided by the NRA. Thanks conservatards!

The medical pot was a miracle until the liver started to fail. I only wish I had access to it five years earlier as it would have vastly improved my quality of life. Nothing can improve my quality of life now unless I take prescribed opiates which wreck my system and would compound the failures of the liver. So It is Ibuprofen which does give some relief to the liver, but as your liver quits working your blood thins and you bleed easily. IBU can contribute to the same. If the blood tests show improvements since I have stopped the medical pot, I will not take it again. If they show a continued decline, I will probably take high doses at the end. Part of the problem is that I take small amounts many times a day and function quite well when I was taking it. However, at the end I will be in a bed and I will probably take double and triple the doses......probably will be higher than a kite, but right now I must function which liver pain and not take medical pot until I know it has not been contributing to the liver decline.

2seaoat wrote:I will probably take double and triple the doses......probably will be higher than a kite

Good for you! Whatever it takes.