Women's March - St. Pete

Sal wrote:Tens of thousands in attendance.

It was organized for the marchers to stay on the sidewalks, but the numbers were such that the police had to close down the streets.

Completely peaceful and very encouraging.

Organize and resist!

Tellthetruth wrote:See, a Hillary supporter who marches against Trump and doesn't see the hypocrisy of it all. It would be analogous to a Native American voting to reelect Andrew Jackson as President had Native Americans had the right to vote.

Tellthetruth wrote:Did you like the 30 million woman march back in November? That's how many women marched into the voting booth and pulled the lever for Trump.

Tellthetruth wrote:See, a Hillary supporter who marches against Trump and doesn't see the hypocrisy of it all. It would be analogous to a Native American voting to reelect Andrew Jackson as President had Native Americans had the right to vote.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Tellthetruth wrote:See, a Hillary supporter who marches against Trump and doesn't see the hypocrisy of it all. It would be analogous to a Native American voting to reelect Andrew Jackson as President had Native Americans had the right to vote.

A Hillary supporter Should march against Trump. That voter has always been against everything he stands for and has not changed their position on things. What is hypocritical about that?

Floridatexan wrote:

Tellthetruth wrote:See, a Hillary supporter who marches against Trump and doesn't see the hypocrisy of it all. It would be analogous to a Native American voting to reelect Andrew Jackson as President had Native Americans had the right to vote.

No, it wouldn't.  WTH?

othershoe1030 wrote:Pardon me guys I must comment from a woman's point of view. I just got back from the march in Pensacola. I am still a little wet from the downpour earlier but want to make a couple of observations.

First of all I never was an ardent Hillary supporter. As you probably know I supported Bernie but voted for Hillary for obvious reasons.

The benefits of going to a rally or march like this one is that you get to network with others who are of a similar mind. This raises moral and is energizing, which in turn leads to more actions like registering voters etc.

As for who voted and who didn't, it would be my estimate that anyone who is willing to get up early, make a sign or two, drive to the event site, stand in the rain or cold must have enough self motivation to register and vote. To accuse demonstrators of "probably not voting" is another way of trying to dismiss the statement made by their actions.

I agree that there should have been rallies like this during the campaign when they could have done some good. I admit I did not register ONE voter in Florida for this election cycle. I was lulled into complacency by the poll numbers and thought that Hillary could lose Florida and still have an easy win. Wrong! Florida was swinging back and forth between red and blue, too close to call so it might have made a difference.

Here is a link to a paper that outlines useful and effective things ordinary citizens can do that will have an effect on legislators. It is written by former congressional staffers who have seen first hand what moves these people, what they listen and react to.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5855a354cd0f68bab2089b40/t/5867cd26be65940ffdeeac1e/1483197741124/IndivisibleGuide_2016-12-31_v1.pdf

2seaoat wrote:If Hillary won Florida, the protests would not be necessary.   Too little too late, all about touchy feely bad losers.  We need some stone cold killers to take this country back from the 1%, and I for one am going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt as my President that he can do some good things for average Americans.  I have not gone soft, or mad, but I am piszed about protests.  Chit Florida could have been won if Bernie supporters got out and voted for Hillary....now they want to protest.   Give me a break.   Real people are getting hurt, and the rich are about to pillage this nation with a bought and paid for congress.

2seaoat wrote:Bernie as much as I love him, is living in a dream world.  His supporters want forgiveness of student loan debt, and I know of a young lawyer who works with my daughter in the SA office who has 200k student loan debt.  Absurd.  People are taking a five year vacation from reality going to school with blank checks and want everybody else to pay for their vacation.   I paid every dime of my school, and I simply have no sympathy for this issue.  I would like to see maybe free tuition to Junior Colleges, but I worked my asz off to pay for my schooling, and a bunch of people taking to the street for free college is no different than the bastards making over 200k who are being given tax relief on the repeal of the ACA.  I agree with steady and incremental increases of the minimum wage, and free tuition for junior college, but this idea of loan forgiveness, or free college can fill the streets, but where is the nuts and bolts policy and organization.  I bought into this ivory tower crap, and as a result the 1% are going to take us backwards for four years.   I am disgusted.

ppaca wrote:Man I agree with pdog and markle this is Saturday what the hell do these women think exercising their 1st amendment rights? They should be home cleaning, cooking and doing their man's laundry. See what happen's when you gave them the right to vote, give an inch and they take a mile.

Ouch my wife just hit me in the head with a ball bat.

Floridatexan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Bernie as much as I love him, is living in a dream world.  His supporters want forgiveness of student loan debt, and I know of a young lawyer who works with my daughter in the SA office who has 200k student loan debt.  Absurd.  People are taking a five year vacation from reality going to school with blank checks and want everybody else to pay for their vacation.   I paid every dime of my school, and I simply have no sympathy for this issue.  I would like to see maybe free tuition to Junior Colleges, but I worked my asz off to pay for my schooling, and a bunch of people taking to the street for free college is no different than the bastards making over 200k who are being given tax relief on the repeal of the ACA.  I agree with steady and incremental increases of the minimum wage, and free tuition for junior college, but this idea of loan forgiveness, or free college can fill the streets, but where is the nuts and bolts policy and organization.  I bought into this ivory tower crap, and as a result the 1% are going to take us backwards for four years.   I am disgusted.

When you and I were in school, Seaoat, we were able to pay our tuition and books by working...in my case, part-time...but full-time every Summer.  It's not like that anymore.  

2seaoat wrote:White woman are protesting in the streets about Trump.  Will somebody please explain why White woman supported Trump at the polls.   This whole sore loser, or fricking purist who could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary because they wanted the perfect Bernie......Dear God the illusion continues.   I do not want to see protests, I want to see a plan.   Hell a grandmother in Hawaii made this woman thing happen, is there anybody steering the ship?   The Pirates are going to pillage and burn, and folks are proud about protests.....please wake me up from this bad dream.

2seaoat wrote:White woman are protesting in the streets about Trump.  Will somebody please explain why White woman supported Trump at the polls.   This whole sore loser, or fricking purist who could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary because they wanted the perfect Bernie......Dear God the illusion continues.   I do not want to see protests, I want to see a plan.   Hell a grandmother in Hawaii made this woman thing happen, is there anybody steering the ship?   The Pirates are going to pillage and burn, and folks are proud about protests.....please wake me up from this bad dream.

Floridatexan wrote:

ppaca wrote:Man I agree with pdog and markle this is Saturday what the hell do these women think exercising their 1st amendment rights? They should be home cleaning, cooking and doing their man's laundry. See what happen's when you gave them the right to vote, give an inch and they take a mile.

Ouch my wife just hit me in the head with a ball bat.