Cavuto to CNN

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/13/cavuto-cnn-youre-experiencing-what-weve-been-living-last-8-years

Now you know how conservatives have felt the last eight years

FOX is the only conservative news network. You liberals have all of the other channels. Given that people have chosen FOX over the rest is a testament as to whom the public chooses to believe.

Here's why the left hates Trump and conservatism the way they do:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/why_the_left_hates_trump_so_intensely.html

The intensity of the hatred for a newly elected president faced by Donald Trump is equaled only by the reaction of the Confederacy to the election of Abraham Lincoln. That ended up in civil war, a precedent that one hopes will not be equaled. But there has been a remarkable fury at people who do not shun Trump: boycotts of a company whose shareholder contributed to a PAC supporting Trump, attempts to pressure the president of a historically black college to prevent its marching band from performing at the inaugural, and hateful rhetoric at Hollywood awards ceremonies. With much more to come.

A useful perspective is to regard this as a religious conflict. Cults behave exactly the way the left is behaving when a member leaves the fold. And remember that Donald Trump used to be a member in good standing of the Democrat cultural machine. He even had a show on NBC, a mainstay of the Left, in addition to being a generous contributor to many Democrats.

An anonymous poster on Reddit offers an interesting take on the religious nature of the conflict (strong language warning). “NotJaffo” writes:


Why is Hollywood (in particular) freaking out so badly over Trump?

First, because he's a Republican who might actually do the things he said he wanted to do. But second, because this is the first cultural victory the right has scored since Reagan stumbled into one in the '80s.



The left is used to losing political battles. They scream and cry over these but they don't truly panic, because they know that as long as they maintain their hammerlock on the culture, Republicans can't really change anything.

Blue Team Progressivism is a church, offering you moral superiority and a path to spiritual enlightenment. As a church it's got a lot going for it. It runs religious programming on television, all day every day. Every modern primetime program is like a left-wing Andy Griffith show, reinforcing lessons of inclusion, tolerance, feminism, and anti-racism.

Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.

The Blue Church controls the HR department, so even if you don't go to church, you have to act like a loyal churchgoer in every way that matters while you're on the clock. And off the clock, on any kind of public social media platform.



Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."

Hollywood award shows are like church talent shows - the skits and jokes aren't really funny, but it's fun to look at the pretty girls, and you're all on the same team.

The interesting point is that until now,


Red Conservativism is a business, selling a set of political products. They don't make you feel good, they don't appeal to your morality or your spiritual sense of self, but sometimes you really NEED one of their core products like security, jobs, or national defense. Their appeals to "freedom" and "family values" ring hollow these days, but when people are flying planes into buildings, you need a strong member of Conservatism, Inc. in the big chair.




And now this unequal match has changed:


For the first time in decades, voters explicitly rejected the Blue Church, defying hours of daily cultural programming, years of indoctrination from the schools, and dozens of explicit warnings from HR.

We've been trained since childhood to obey the pretty people on TV, but for the first time in decades, that didn't work.

Donald Trump won because flyover America wants their culture back, and Blue Team has not been rejected like that before.

The younger ones have grown up in an environment where Blue Faith assumptions cannot even be questioned, except anonymously by the bad kids on Twitter.

But now the bad kids are getting bolder, posting funny memes that make you laugh even though John Oliver would not approve, like passing crude dirty pictures under the table in Sunday School.

Meryl Streep is panicking because for the first time voters have rejected HER, and everything her faith has taught her to believe.


Donald Trump is not peddling a religion, but he is peddling a counterculture that challenges the “Blue Faith,” as NotJaffo” aptly labels it, And that is the basis of panic.


And that's what Meryl Streep is really scared of. She's not truly aware of it, just like fluttering housewives couldn't really understand the counterculture threat in 1968. But they feel that something is changing in their safe little world, and they know they have to fight it, because this threat isn't just passing pointless budget resolutions and selling pointless platitudes about family values - these guys mean business, and they're fighting on her turf.

The global warming religion has already folded itself into the Trump hater cult. The question facing us now is how to deprogram cult members.


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[quote="Tellthetruth"]FOX is the only conservative news network. You liberals have all of the other channels. Given that people have chosen FOX over the rest is a testament as to whom the public chooses to believe.

Here's why the left hates Trump and conservatism the way they do:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/why_the_left_hates_trump_so_intensely.html

The intensity of the hatred for a newly elected president faced by Donald Trump is equaled only by the reaction of the Confederacy to the election of Abraham Lincoln.  That ended up in civil war, a precedent that one hopes will not be equaled. But there has been a remarkable fury at people who do not shun Trump: boycotts of a company whose shareholder contributed to a PAC supporting  Trump, attempts to pressure the president of a historically black college to prevent its marching band from performing at the inaugural, and hateful rhetoric at Hollywood awards ceremonies. With much more to come.

A useful perspective is to regard this as a religious conflict. Cults behave exactly the way the left is behaving when a member leaves the fold. And remember that Donald Trump used to be a member in good standing of the Democrat cultural machine. He even had a show on NBC, a mainstay of the Left, in addition to being a generous contributor to many Democrats.

An anonymous poster on Reddit offers an interesting take on the religious nature of the conflict (strong language warning). “NotJaffo” writes:


Why is Hollywood (in particular) freaking out so badly over Trump?

First, because he's a Republican who might actually do the things he said he wanted to do. But second, because this is the first cultural victory the right has scored since Reagan stumbled into one in the '80s.



The left is used to losing political battles. They scream and cry over these but they don't truly panic, because they know that as long as they maintain their hammerlock on the culture, Republicans can't really change anything.

Blue Team Progressivism is a church, offering you moral superiority and a path to spiritual enlightenment. As a church it's got a lot going for it. It runs religious programming on television, all day every day. Every modern primetime program is like a left-wing Andy Griffith show, reinforcing lessons of inclusion, tolerance, feminism, and anti-racism.

Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.

The Blue Church controls the HR department, so even if you don't go to church, you have to act like a loyal churchgoer in every way that matters while you're on the clock. And off the clock, on any kind of public social media platform.



Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."

Hollywood award shows are like church talent shows - the skits and jokes aren't really funny, but it's fun to look at the pretty girls, and you're all on the same team.

The interesting point is that until now,


Red Conservativism is a business, selling a set of political products. They don't make you feel good, they don't appeal to your morality or your spiritual sense of self, but sometimes you really NEED one of their core products like security, jobs, or national defense. Their appeals to "freedom" and "family values" ring hollow these days, but when people are flying planes into buildings, you need a strong member of Conservatism, Inc. in the big chair.




And now this unequal match has changed:


For the first time in decades, voters explicitly rejected the Blue Church, defying hours of daily cultural programming, years of indoctrination from the schools, and dozens of explicit warnings from HR.

We've been trained since childhood to obey the pretty people on TV, but for the first time in decades, that didn't work.

Donald Trump won because flyover America wants their culture back, and Blue Team has not been rejected like that before.

The younger ones have grown up in an environment where Blue Faith assumptions cannot even be questioned, except anonymously by the bad kids on Twitter.

But now the bad kids are getting bolder, posting funny memes that make you laugh even though John Oliver would not approve, like passing crude dirty pictures under the table in Sunday School.

Meryl Streep is panicking because for the first time voters have rejected HER, and everything her faith has taught her to believe.


Donald Trump is not peddling a religion, but he is peddling a counterculture that challenges the “Blue Faith,” as NotJaffo” aptly labels it, And that is the basis of panic.


And that's what Meryl Streep is really scared of. She's not truly aware of it, just like fluttering housewives couldn't really understand the counterculture threat in 1968. But they feel that something is changing in their safe little world, and they know they have to fight it, because this threat isn't just passing pointless budget resolutions and selling pointless platitudes about family values - these guys mean business, and they're fighting on her turf.

The global warming religion has already folded itself into the Trump hater cult.  The question facing us now is how to deprogram cult members.  


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/why_the_left_hates_trump_so_intensely.html#ixzz4VfgQzprP
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BULLSHIT

othershoe1030 wrote:

Tellthetruth wrote:http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/13/cavuto-cnn-youre-experiencing-what-weve-been-living-last-8-years

Now you know how conservatives have felt the last eight years

I think Fox explained their programming once by saying they basically had authentic news in the earlier part of the day and then shifted into commentary as does MSNBC. News coverage in the morning and then Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes, etc. later in the evening.

The problem I see is with the way Fox has blurred the line between commentary and hard news. Both of these networks insert their attitude very subtly in some cases. CNN to me is more neutral but at any rate anyone who is serious about keeping up with what's going on must get information from a wide range of sources that should be constantly checked for accuracy.

I agree with President Obama's clips shown in the video, that he wouldn't vote for himself if he only got information from Fox News. I cut a lot of slack for my neighbors' attitudes because I know they've gotten their information from very narrow sources and anyone armed with that sort of data could hardly reach any other positions other than those similar to what we see offered by the right wing posters on this forum. GIGO.

Who can make this up? CNN MORE NEUTRAL?

Meanwhile, Progressives choose comedians and the comedy channel as their primary source of news. Always impressive!

Your neighbors have the "attitudes" they do because they are far better informed than you and are willing to look at all sides of an issue. Try it, you'll be astounded by how much you learn.

I used to watch Fox and MSNBC, and hardly ever watched CNN. I refuse to watch Fox or MSNBC. Their slant has strayed so far from journalism that I will not even try to balance between the two. I have taken the channels off my Hulu and sling tv allows me to watch CNN. I find them superior to the other two networks and I am particularly impressed with their attempt to be fair. Every network does have a slant. Right now CNN is aggressively trying to get information about the Russians. I sense Conway was so embarrassed by her lies on CNN which I watched that they literally are avoiding good journalism. MSNBC just hates Trump, and Fox just loves Trump, but I find CNN good reporting on breaking news and news about other things than politics. CNN was dead cinch correct on what they reported. It was not fake news. Conway and President elect Trump lied, and were caught in the lie.

othershoe1030 wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

Markle wrote:
Your neighbors have the "attitudes" they do because they are far better informed than you and are willing to look at all sides of an issue.  Try it, you'll be astounded by how much you learn.

POPPYCOCK.  There is NO ONE POSTER on this forum who is more willing to "look at all sides of an issue" than othershoe.   Every contribution is hallmarked by intellectual honesty, a quality you likely know nothing about but which makes othershoe a valued standout in the crowd and well worth reading.   I rarely miss a post.

Well thanks so much. I value your posts too and am glad you've joined the fray!

lock·step
ˈläkˌstep/
noun
a way of marching with each person as close as possible to the one in front.
"the trio marched in lockstep"
close adherence to and emulation of another's actions.

RealLindaL wrote:

knothead wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:

Markle wrote:
Your neighbors have the "attitudes" they do because they are far better informed than you and are willing to look at all sides of an issue.  Try it, you'll be astounded by how much you learn.

POPPYCOCK.  There is NO ONE POSTER on this forum who is more willing to "look at all sides of an issue" than othershoe.   Every contribution is hallmarked by intellectual honesty, a quality you likely know nothing about but which makes othershoe a valued standout in the crowd and well worth reading.   I rarely miss a post.

Well thanks so much. I value your posts too and am glad you've joined the fray!

  Mutual admiration society, I guess.   Too bad Markle is so entirely devoid of any semblance of broadly informed discourse, as Z-man properly noted above.   A more narrow-minded individual it would be hard to find -- OK, perhaps with the exception of PeeDawg.