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Senate Republican Blocks a Cost of Living Increase for Disabled Veterans

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

This is unbelievable even in the heat of a presidential campaign. Once again the patriotic, military loving Republicans choose to shoot themselves in the foot in order to try and make Obama look bad or at least not give him a "win" before the election. Hmmm. I guess they haven't heard of modern communications of any sort? They think the voters won't hear about this? They think this will make THEM look good?

There is no good reason why disabled vets and surviving children and spouses should be denied a cost of living adjustment. The political reason is that Senate Republicans don’t want to give President Obama a “win” before the November election, so they have decided harm a group of people who have sacrificed for their country.

The Senate Republican leadership agreed with the anonymous request because they only care about defeating Obama. They don’t care about disabled veterans, and the families those who have died for their country left behind. For Senate Republicans, it’s all about politics. How can they hurt Obama? How can make America like Obama less? How can they make Obama look like a bad president? These questions have defined the congressional Republican course of action.

http://www.politicususa.com/senate-republican-blocks-cost-living-increase-disabled-veterans.html

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othershoe1030 wrote:This is unbelievable even in the heat of a presidential campaign. Once again the patriotic, military loving Republicans choose to shoot themselves in the foot in order to try and make Obama look bad or at least not give him a "win" before the election. Hmmm. I guess they haven't heard of modern communications of any sort? They think the voters won't hear about this? They think this will make THEM look good?

There is no good reason why disabled vets and surviving children and spouses should be denied a cost of living adjustment. The political reason is that Senate Republicans don’t want to give President Obama a “win” before the November election, so they have decided harm a group of people who have sacrificed for their country.

The Senate Republican leadership agreed with the anonymous request because they only care about defeating Obama. They don’t care about disabled veterans, and the families those who have died for their country left behind. For Senate Republicans, it’s all about politics. How can they hurt Obama? How can make America like Obama less? How can they make Obama look like a bad president? These questions have defined the congressional Republican course of action.

http://www.politicususa.com/senate-republican-blocks-cost-living-increase-disabled-veterans.html

We did it to the senior citizens two years ago and this year. Quit acting like this is just a GOP idea. where is the money going to come from to pay for this? Vets understand. I am one of them. YOu guys love to tie earmarks to bills. This is just another instance of that for political gain.

I dont know how old you are, but if you are near 50 expect to get 1/2 of what the SS admin promises you for Social Security. If you are thinking you will get 100 percent of what your statment says, you are a FOOL.

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a better question is: why is the cost of living increasing and why is the value of the dollar decreasing?

who does that hurt the most? who does it benefit?

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:This is unbelievable even in the heat of a presidential campaign. Once again the patriotic, military loving Republicans choose to shoot themselves in the foot in order to try and make Obama look bad or at least not give him a "win" before the election. Hmmm. I guess they haven't heard of modern communications of any sort? They think the voters won't hear about this? They think this will make THEM look good?

There is no good reason why disabled vets and surviving children and spouses should be denied a cost of living adjustment. The political reason is that Senate Republicans don’t want to give President Obama a “win” before the November election, so they have decided harm a group of people who have sacrificed for their country.

The Senate Republican leadership agreed with the anonymous request because they only care about defeating Obama. They don’t care about disabled veterans, and the families those who have died for their country left behind. For Senate Republicans, it’s all about politics. How can they hurt Obama? How can make America like Obama less? How can they make Obama look like a bad president? These questions have defined the congressional Republican course of action.

http://www.politicususa.com/senate-republican-blocks-cost-living-increase-disabled-veterans.html

We did it to the senior citizens two years ago and this year. Quit acting like this is just a GOP idea. where is the money going to come from to pay for this? Vets understand. I am one of them. YOu guys love to tie earmarks to bills. This is just another instance of that for political gain.

I dont know how old you are, but if you are near 50 expect to get 1/2 of what the SS admin promises you for Social Security. If you are thinking you will get 100 percent of what your statment says, you are a FOOL.

You really are not a teacher in our school system are you? You seem to throw out so much hatred, I'd hate to have one of my kids or grandkids in your class. Do you call the kids fools? Social Security increases are tied to the cpi and has nothing to do with the President or congress blocking anything.

Othershoe, in the past when social security had a cost of living increase we received one in our VA disability checks, but I guess congress can block this.

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isnt the senate a majority of democrats right now?

knothead

knothead

Rogue wrote:isnt the senate a majority of democrats right now?


Answer: Yes but not filibuster proof.

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It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

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knothead wrote:
Rogue wrote:isnt the senate a majority of democrats right now?


Answer: Yes but not filibuster proof.

Um, how can you blame republicans then if the majority is dem?

sorry, but that doesnt make sense.

if all 51 dems voted for it, please tell me how the republicans stopped it?

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reaper1948 wrote:It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

if I recall correctly your a INSURANCE salesman. I could have pegged who you were going to vote for a LONG time ago > LOL

Sal

Sal

knothead wrote:
Answer: Yes but not filibuster proof.


Rogue wrote:if all 51 dems voted for it, please tell me how the republicans stopped it?

Wow.

That's some seriously high-octane, powerful stupid on display right there.

Nekochan

Nekochan

I wouldn't worry about it too much. One person cannot hold up a vote indefinitely.

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Rogue wrote:if all 51 dems voted for it, please tell me how the republicans stopped it?

lol


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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Rogue wrote:isnt the senate a majority of democrats right now?

This explains the mechanics of the move on the part of the Republicans. Any senator can put a bill on hold anonymously if he/she has the okay of their party leader. In this case having a majority makes no difference since it is not coming up for a vote at all. From the article:

The anonymous senator used an informal custom referred to as a hold, which allows any member of the Senate to stop legislation from coming to the floor for a vote by notifying and getting agreement from the party leadership for their intentions.

Nekochan

Nekochan

I'm sure it will come up for a vote. One person will not be able to hold it up forever.

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Rogue wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

if I recall correctly your a INSURANCE salesman. I could have pegged who you were going to vote for a LONG time ago > LOL

Nope you didn't have me pegged I was pushing for Romney to get the nomination, then he picked Ryan who is an ass, then I got over that figuring a VP has no power unless Romney dies in office and I was willing to take that chance. It's also about 100% bet that all insurance sales people are against Obama care (it cut commissions 50% last year). But then Romney came out and kind of likes healthcare reform and has not talked enough about the economy. Yes, a republican can hold up the senate even though the dems have control.

Nekochan

Nekochan

reaper1948 wrote:
Rogue wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

if I recall correctly your a INSURANCE salesman. I could have pegged who you were going to vote for a LONG time ago > LOL

Nope you didn't have me pegged I was pushing for Romney to get the nomination, then he picked Ryan who is an ass, then I got over that figuring a VP has no power unless Romney dies in office and I was willing to take that chance. It's also about 100% bet that all insurance sales people are against Obama care (it cut commissions 50% last year). But then Romney came out and kind of likes healthcare reform and has not talked enough about the economy. Yes, a republican can hold up the senate even though the dems have control.

Again, ONE person will not be able to hold up a vote forever. He/she would need help holding it up.

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I dont claim to know how all that works. I ask honestly. Now Ive learned something.

now it seems that the republicans didnt like the 1 billion $ price.

seems they also voted for it on Sept 11th. Not sure what changed in the bill since then. seems like it was something about it was against some budget law that prevented them from adding to the deficit.

I dont care for this. It doesnt make me happy and i think it is wrong. perhaps the bill should of included how to pay for it such as taking funds away from some other social program?

because they are going to need a really BIG bill when the defense cuts come and thousands of people who are serving in the military are cut and need jobs.

Nekochan

Nekochan

Well, that's the thing. We don't know why the bill was put on hold. Maybe for a good reason. Maybe there is something in the bill that needs some clarification.
But again, just one person cannot hold up a vote forever.

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Nekochan wrote:Well, that's the thing. We don't know why the bill was put on hold. Maybe for a good reason. Maybe there is something in the bill that needs some clarification.
But again, just one person cannot hold up a vote forever.

its politics. and it must be a good reason because I am sure republicans would not have done this knowing full well the dems would blast it all over.

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Nekochan wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:
Rogue wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

if I recall correctly your a INSURANCE salesman. I could have pegged who you were going to vote for a LONG time ago > LOL

Nope you didn't have me pegged I was pushing for Romney to get the nomination, then he picked Ryan who is an ass, then I got over that figuring a VP has no power unless Romney dies in office and I was willing to take that chance. It's also about 100% bet that all insurance sales people are against Obama care (it cut commissions 50% last year). But then Romney came out and kind of likes healthcare reform and has not talked enough about the economy. Yes, a republican can hold up the senate even though the dems have control.

Again, ONE person will not be able to hold up a vote forever. He/she would need help holding it up.


It's not just one person. There has to be agreement from the leadership.

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salinsky wrote:
knothead wrote:
Answer: Yes but not filibuster proof.


Rogue wrote:if all 51 dems voted for it, please tell me how the republicans stopped it?

Wow.

That's some seriously high-octane, powerful stupid on display right there.

"That's what I'm saying."

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

salinsky wrote:
knothead wrote:
Answer: Yes but not filibuster proof.


Rogue wrote:if all 51 dems voted for it, please tell me how the republicans stopped it?

Wow.

That's some seriously high-octane, powerful stupid on display right there.

Unfortunately, it gets worse.

Nekochan

Nekochan

Dreamsglore wrote:
Nekochan wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:
Rogue wrote:
reaper1948 wrote:It was something called a hold that the republican senator did and no one knows his name. To block a bill to help disabled vets and families just so Obama won't have a victory before being elected is pretty low in my book and since I've been flip flopping back and forth between Romney and Obama for some time I have just made my decision who I am voting for and it ain't a republican.

if I recall correctly your a INSURANCE salesman. I could have pegged who you were going to vote for a LONG time ago > LOL

Nope you didn't have me pegged I was pushing for Romney to get the nomination, then he picked Ryan who is an ass, then I got over that figuring a VP has no power unless Romney dies in office and I was willing to take that chance. It's also about 100% bet that all insurance sales people are against Obama care (it cut commissions 50% last year). But then Romney came out and kind of likes healthcare reform and has not talked enough about the economy. Yes, a republican can hold up the senate even though the dems have control.

Again, ONE person will not be able to hold up a vote forever. He/she would need help holding it up.


It's not just one person. There has to be agreement from the leadership.

Yes, exactly. But this is apparently much ado about not much because the hold was lifted as soon as everyone had a chance to review the bill. At least maybe in this case they READ it before they voted on it.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/27/senator-puts-secret-hold-on-veterans-cola-bill.html?comp=7000023317828&rank=1

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:This is unbelievable even in the heat of a presidential campaign. Once again the patriotic, military loving Republicans choose to shoot themselves in the foot in order to try and make Obama look bad or at least not give him a "win" before the election. Hmmm. I guess they haven't heard of modern communications of any sort? They think the voters won't hear about this? They think this will make THEM look good?

There is no good reason why disabled vets and surviving children and spouses should be denied a cost of living adjustment. The political reason is that Senate Republicans don’t want to give President Obama a “win” before the November election, so they have decided harm a group of people who have sacrificed for their country.

The Senate Republican leadership agreed with the anonymous request because they only care about defeating Obama. They don’t care about disabled veterans, and the families those who have died for their country left behind. For Senate Republicans, it’s all about politics. How can they hurt Obama? How can make America like Obama less? How can they make Obama look like a bad president? These questions have defined the congressional Republican course of action.

http://www.politicususa.com/senate-republican-blocks-cost-living-increase-disabled-veterans.html

We did it to the senior citizens two years ago and this year. Quit acting like this is just a GOP idea. where is the money going to come from to pay for this? Vets understand. I am one of them. YOu guys love to tie earmarks to bills. This is just another instance of that for political gain.

I dont know how old you are, but if you are near 50 expect to get 1/2 of what the SS admin promises you for Social Security. If you are thinking you will get 100 percent of what your statment says, you are a FOOL.

Dude, you aren't even going to get half. The Baby Boomers haven't found this out yet, but they are going to get shafted before you are. We'll know this in the next 10 years.

The last U.S. generation to receive full Social Security benefits is the Silent Generation, born 1924-1942.

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Nekochan

Nekochan

I fully expect that my generation will never see full Social Security benefits. I am glad hubby and I are not counting on it. If nothing else, we'll probably be means tested and penalized for saving money for our retirement.

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