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White Nationalists have found their leader

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Given the 1% support for Trump in the black community, his desire to "build a wall" etc. It comes as no shock that he has cozied up with people like Stephen Bannon of Breitbart News but the analysis of digital communications via Twitter shows a very alarming relationship between Trump supporters and the White Nationalist or white supremacist groups.

The authors suggest that Trump's campaign is really intended as a platform for his future media empire tailored to the opinions of the anti-everyone except European Americans.

White people who seethe with anger at the sight of non-white people may comprise a minority among U.S. whites, but it’s probably a sizable minority. According to the International Business Times, Breitbart News more than doubled its traffic during the course of the Trump campaign—to 17 million monthly unique visitors in December 2015. (The site is a premiere defender of and message-disseminator for Trump.)

And beyond the subgroup of pure haters, just look at the differences in how a generic cohort of white Americans view media and political attention to racial problems, compared with how blacks and Latinos do. According to a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center earlier this year, 41 percent of whites told interviewers that “too much attention is paid to race and racial issues in our country today,” while only 22 percent of blacks, and 25 percent of Latinos and Latinas said the same. Sort it out by political party, and you find that 59 percent of white Republicans say that’s the case. One-third of white Americans told Pew researchers that President Obama made race relations worse in America, a conclusion likely drawn only from the fact that he’s black. Add it all up, and there’s a potential audience ripe for the picking. And it’s Trump’s audience.



http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-campaign-chief-bannon-cements-white-nationalist-ideology?akid=14560.310455.Q65nk0&rd=1&src=newsletter1062392&t=2

Guest


Guest

That guy is plagiarizing seagoat's unique opinions.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

More evidence for the idea that Trump is really "just" building a new audience for his future media empire.  I wonder if his new campaign manager will be okay with the virtual nonexistence of a ground game? Is she okay with helping to build a following that could be a very dangerous group given their rage and behavior displayed at Trump rallies. Could make the Tea Party just look like a, well, Tea Party by comparison.

Has Donald Trump given up on winning the White House and “pivoted” (this might be his real pivot) to a full-blown effort to build a national following that will outlast the election, perhaps allowing him to establish a media empire with him at the helm — one that caters, at least to some degree, to a white nationalist or “alt-right” audience? Was that his plan all along?

The last few days have brought fresh reporting and evidence that suggest this is where Trump is really headed, a scenario that a number of observers (your humble blogger included) have been speculating about for months. I thought it would be useful to round up this evidence:

* Vanity Fair media writer Sarah Ellison reports in a radio interview that Trump has had private discussions with his inner circle about “how to monetize” the new audience he’s built up. As Ellison puts it, this potential goal should no longer be seen as “speculation.”

* The New York Times reports today that in July, Trump’s campaign “spent more on renting arenas for his speeches” than he did on setting up a national field operation, leaving him with no operation to speak of. That is consistent with the idea that Trump (as I’ve speculated) is very consciously sinking most of his resources into a format (rallies) that allows him to continue staging his unique form of raucous WWE-style political entertainment, and building an audience that thrills to it, rather than winning a general election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/22/trumps-real-endgame-a-white-nationalist-media-empire/?utm_campaign=pubexchange&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_term=.059b945e6997

2seaoat



I have been fighting real discrimination for 35 years.  I do not need a road map to be outside the bubble or be fooled by the dog whistle.  I also have the unique position of having relatives who are dye in the wool Dixiecrats who are proud of living in Alabama, and think everybody in the country cares about SEC football, and that Auburn is the center of the universe.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

It's bad enough we've had decades of right wing talk radio that has now convinced a certain segment of society that the president was born elsewhere and that even as an imposter he is coming (any day now) to take their guns. To think that Trump, Roger Ailes and Bannon are now working together one can only imagine what awful thoughts and actions they might cultivate among their followers. This alliance is very dangerous. I guess he just wants to sell a lot of hats and T-shirts? Does Trump even know who and what he is dealing with? He is not very well versed in American history or politics above the rally level. Another monster is created.

2seaoat



These folks plan on gutting the Fox cable cash train and replace the same with the Trump train. They are creating a media empire worth probably a billion dollars and winning this election is not their goal. It never was the goal. It was capturing old white America and marketing the same hate which they buy into. Hate captured by Fox had a payday. They will grab some talking heads from Fox, and within a year after the election Fox rating will drop......Donald trump is spending most of his campaign money to raise more money.....it does not take a genius to see where and who will control that money.....do you think down ballot Republicans are getting the money......hell Breitbart and Trump will make their money attacking Republicans.......Dixiecrats have no loyalty to their host.....they are true parasites.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Yes, at bottom it is a money making scheme or a business endeavor depending on how you want to look at it. Here's the latest from FEC reports as to how the Trump "campaign" is spending its money.

According to HuffPost, new FEC filings from the Trump campaign indicate it paid Trump Tower Commercial LLC $35,458 for commercial space in March, when Trump was still largely self-funding. But as the months went by, up went the rent. By May, the same space in Trump Tower cost the campaign $72,800. Then it paid $110,684 on June 9, and $169,758 on July 10.

In total, the campaign paid $169,758 in rent during the month of July, HuffPost tells us, nearly five times what it paid in March.

But wait—maybe costs were just growing with his campaign. After all, Trump secured the Republican nomination during this period and may have been gearing up for the general election. Except the same report indicates the Trump campaign was paying 197 employees and consultants in March. In July, the number actually dropped to 172. That's pretty much in line with what we know about Trump's organization, which has long been hovering between bare-bones and non-existent.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47924/donald-trump-raised-rent-campaign-offices/

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

2seaoat wrote:These folks plan on gutting the Fox cable cash train and replace the same with the Trump train.   They are creating a media empire worth probably a billion dollars and winning this election is not their goal.  It never was the goal.  It was capturing old white America and marketing the same hate which they buy into.   Hate captured by Fox had a payday.   They will grab some talking heads from Fox, and within a year after the election Fox rating will drop......Donald trump is spending most of his campaign money to raise more money.....it does not take a genius to see where and who will control that money.....do you think down ballot Republicans are getting the money......hell Breitbart and Trump will make their money attacking Republicans.......Dixiecrats have no loyalty to their host.....they are true parasites.

How in any way is Trump a Dixiecrat? Roger Ailes is from Ohio. I'll give you Bannon...from Virginia. What they have in common is they're all grifters of the highest order...opportunistic money-grubbers. The Southern Strategy was real...no doubt, and Trump is trying to revive it, in the tradition of Lee Atwater. But the blueprint for today's GOP was written by former Justice Lewis Powell, who probably embodied the Southern Strategy, even though he was a supposed Democrat.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

Telstar

Telstar

America under Trump's heel.

2seaoat



Its not about the strategy, its about the reality of the former confederate states voters.........reality always Trumps strategy.

Guest


Guest

It's kinda funny that leftists dredge up the long vanquished nazis... when there's really no contemporary example except maybe Obama and hillary's aided Isis. But on the other hand we still have socialist and communist countries and know how they operate. Socialist should be a scarier word than nazi.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:It's kinda funny that leftists dredge up the long vanquished nazis... when there's really no contemporary example except maybe Obama and hillary's aided Isis. But on the other hand we still have socialist and communist countries and know how they operate. Socialist should be a scarier word than nazi.

I guess you're not German.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:It's kinda funny that leftists dredge up the long vanquished nazis... when there's really no contemporary example except maybe Obama and hillary's aided Isis. But on the other hand we still have socialist and communist countries and know how they operate. Socialist should be a scarier word than nazi.


Name a socialist country (not soviet union or china) who has put thousands of people in concentration-death camps. Now tell us why socialism is scarier than Nazism. Please. We're all ears ...

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It's kinda funny that leftists dredge up the long vanquished nazis... when there's really no contemporary example except maybe Obama and hillary's aided Isis. But on the other hand we still have socialist and communist countries and know how they operate. Socialist should be a scarier word than nazi.


Name a socialist country (not soviet union or china) who has put thousands of people in concentration-death camps.  Now tell us why socialism is scarier than Nazism.  Please.  We're all ears ...

My point... which you obviously only gleaned your point from... is that there is no nazi country.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

2seaoat wrote:These folks plan on gutting the Fox cable cash train and replace the same with the Trump train.   They are creating a media empire worth probably a billion dollars and winning this election is not their goal.  It never was the goal.  It was capturing old white America and marketing the same hate which they buy into.   Hate captured by Fox had a payday.   They will grab some talking heads from Fox, and within a year after the election Fox rating will drop......Donald trump is spending most of his campaign money to raise more money.....it does not take a genius to see where and who will control that money.....do you think down ballot Republicans are getting the money......hell Breitbart and Trump will make their money attacking Republicans.......Dixiecrats have no loyalty to their host.....they are true parasites.

All indications point to this take over of the Fox media empire as his goal. But OMG it is mind boggling to watch the national political system of the US being basically used as a backdrop for his shenanigans!

If this turns out to be true it is embarrassing at best and dangerous in the extreme. How is it that our system can be so skillfully manipulated? It doesn't look as if we can even blame Citizens United for the problem since Trump came at it at first with his own money. Good Grief what a mess...and bringing the white supremacists out to boot.

Telstar

Telstar

The effort to plant the seeds of white nationalism in the political mainstream, where they might blossom into pro-white political coalitions that appeal to a broader swath of Caucasian voters, will not be easy, according to the chairman of the American Nazi Party.

But Rocky Suhayda thinks there is one political figure who presents a “real opportunity” to lessen the load.

Who is it? Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president.

“Now, if Trump does win, okay, it’s going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists, acting intelligently to build upon that, and to go and start — you know how you have the black political caucus and what not in Congress and everything — to start building on something like that,” Suhayda declared on his radio program last month.

“It doesn’t have to be anti-, like the movement’s been for decades, so much as it has to be pro-white,” he added. “You know what I’m saying? It’s kinda hard to go and call us bigots if we don’t go around and act like a bigot. That’s what the movement should contemplate. All right.”




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/07/top-nazi-leader-trump-will-be-a-real-opportunity-for-white-nationalists/?utm_term=.b95109ea8a55

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