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Fracking approved for Florida...what could go wrong?

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Florida House approves bill to authorize, regulate fracking

Measure prevents Miami-Dade, Broward counties from banning controversial procedure

After yearlong study, regulators will write rules for operation

Proponents say they are confident practice can be handled safely in Florida

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article56938703.html#storylink=cpy

Guest


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Don't have time to write at the moment.

This pisses me off. While everyone spends their time on the crap politicians toss out - the fox is in the henhouse in our own backyard.

dumpcare



This should piss everyone off that lives in Florida.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

There will never be any fracking done in Florida. There are no petroleum-bearing shales beneath our state like there are in North Dakota, Texas, and other places. Very little petroleum exploration is done onshore in Florida, and I would venture to say that Florida's biggest oil field is in nearby Jay.  This link shows a map of U.S. shales, of which none exist in Florida:

https://www.eia.gov/oil_gas/rpd/northamer_gas.jpg

As far as local governments banning fracking, states where fracking is done have outlawed local regulations concerning the same for good measure. Most of the local laws were being driven by climate-change activists who want to summarily end petroleum-exploration in the U.S., and cooler heads prevailed at the state level.

The photograph in the article FT posted is from Colorado..... There really is no need to either approve or ban a procedure which will never be used in our state. This could just be a battle between right-wing lunatics in the state government, and fearmongering climate change activists who think the world is going to end in 2050 because of carbon dioxide.

Disclaimer: I happen to be a person who is pro-petroleum development, and I am not affected by climate-change hysteria. I am also fascinated with alternative energy strategies, such as solar development, cold fusion and other advanced nuclear technologies, enhanced geothermal technology, and such technologies which will allow us to move away from burning fossil fuels for our energy needs as this century progresses. The reason I am for the alternatives is because I still believe in Peak Oil theory and that the world must move away from petroleum because it largely runs out globally during the 21st century. As we move onto the alternatives, this should assuage at least some of the fears of those worried about climate change. But in the meantime, the use of oil will be necessary.

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Guest


Guest

Sometimes you have to go back a bit and see who has or has had an interest in the shale gas extractions from the Everglades. I see a major home builder named. Mostly folks who have NO interest in the well being of the natural habitats and protected wetlands of Florida.

Here's one from 2014:
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/02/28/oil-prospectors-seek-their-next-big-strike-south-floridas-everglades-245596.html

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

SheWrites wrote:Sometimes you have to go back a  bit and see who has or has had an interest in the shale gas extractions from the Everglades.  I see a major home builder named.  Mostly folks who have NO interest in the well being of the natural habitats and protected wetlands of Florida.
Here's one from 2014:
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/02/28/oil-prospectors-seek-their-next-big-strike-south-floridas-everglades-245596.html


There is no shale gas extraction going on in the Everglades. No shales exist beneath Florida. As I said earlier, the largest oil field in Florida is over in Jay in SRC. There are about 50 wells in that area. In south Florida there are a total of 7 oil wells. There is no onshore exploration in Florida any where else. You can see Florida's oil wells on this interactive map, and there are so few that you must look hard to find them:

http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=FL

Contrast this to Kern County, California, where I grew up, and you can have 57 oil wells inside a 640 acre (1 mile X 1 mile) section. There are 10s of thousands of oil wells in that county, because it is a prolific oil producing region, and the source of the oil is the Monterey Shale formation (the source rock). Florida has no such oil-bearing region.

Though some odd exploratory drilling may be going on, I sincerely doubt there is any large exploitable oil pool anywhere in south Florida. Oh, and with oil hovering at $30 per barrel, wild-catters are filing for bankruptcy more than they are drilling.

To put things further into perspective, 31 states out of the lower 48 produce oil; Florida ranks as #23. Between January and October of 2015, the state produced 191,000 barrels of oil. Practically all of that comes from Jay, and it is a thimble-full when you compare it to the prolific oil regions of North Dakota, west Texas, and even the aging oil fields where I grew up.

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http://www.ogj.com/articles/print/vol-110/issue-3/exploration-development/sunniland-shale-an-emerging.html

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

SheWrites wrote:http://www.ogj.com/articles/print/vol-110/issue-3/exploration-development/sunniland-shale-an-emerging.html

Okay, I humbly stand corrected. I had not heard of that particular play, and I am an Oil & Gas Journal subscriber...... I will have to study this one more, as the Sunniland shale does not show up on the EIA's shale map.

BTW, I was never an oil & gas professional, but in the last 6 years, I have studied energy greatly and intensely. My 3 siblings and myself have a small sliver of an interest in some mineral rights in Kern County, CA (they have been in our family for 100 years). As my late father's dementia worsened, someone had to become a subject-matter expert and learn how to manage them. I went through a self-education on petroleum and energy. I am fascinated by it, and now I wish I had studied petroleum engineering when I was in college.

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No problem. Learning as I go.

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