Should we enter another elective war in the Middle East?

boards of FL wrote:Should we enter another elective war in the Middle East?

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:Should we enter another elective war in the Middle East?

It is a little late for that isn't it?

Semi-retired President has gotten us in up to our eyeballs.  He has us on the brink of WW-III and told us everything is hunky-dory.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The reason the 2016 GOP hopefuls are pushing for new military interventions on the Middle East is to take the heat off of the fact they have few to none domestic policy proposals in their platform aimed at helping or doing anything for average Americans.

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The reason the 2016 GOP hopefuls are pushing for new military interventions on the Middle East is to take the heat off of the fact they have few to none domestic policy proposals in their platform aimed at helping or doing anything for average Americans.

How can GOP candidates be pushing for NEW military interventions in the Middle East when semi-retired President Obama has been bombing the Middle East for well over a year AND has also returned boots on the ground.

October 31st ISIS plants a small bomb in a critical place and kill 224 people.

November 12th semi-retired President Obama makes an uninspiring speech and tells us that ISIS is CONTAINED and being defeated.



Friday, November 13th ISIS launches a multi point, expertly coordinated attack on Paris killing 139 and injuring hundreds more.

Now the State Department issues a WORLDWIDE TRAVEL ALERT.

At the same time, President Obama is going on TV and telling us DUN WORRRRY...EVERYTHING IS FINE.  Travel...go to sporting events, go shopping.

Yep...everything is under control after only SEVEN SHORT YEARS.

PkrBum wrote:Hillary is more hawkish than any of the pubs. Do you just ignore that? My guess is you'll vote for her and support war.

knothead wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The reason the 2016 GOP hopefuls are pushing for new military interventions on the Middle East is to take the heat off of the fact they have few to none domestic policy proposals in their platform aimed at helping or doing anything for average Americans.

How can GOP candidates be pushing for NEW military interventions in the Middle East when semi-retired President Obama has been bombing the Middle East for well over a year AND has also returned boots on the ground.

October 31st ISIS plants a small bomb in a critical place and kill 224 people.

November 12th semi-retired President Obama makes an uninspiring speech and tells us that ISIS is CONTAINED and being defeated.



Friday, November 13th ISIS launches a multi point, expertly coordinated attack on Paris killing 139 and injuring hundreds more.

Now the State Department issues a WORLDWIDE TRAVEL ALERT.

At the same time, President Obama is going on TV and telling us DUN WORRRRY...EVERYTHING IS FINE.  Travel...go to sporting events, go shopping.

Yep...everything is under control after only SEVEN SHORT YEARS.

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In reply I personally have no doubt that all of the GOP candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul) would deploy significant military assets to the ME to fight the ISIS scourge. That said, right or wrong, is what I believe. Further, we as a nation now see clearly that invasion and occupation do not work either in the short or the long run . . . . we have tried that it does not work out . . . . has never and will never. Obama has and is doing what he can where he can absent committing our forces to the fight. Unless and until the affected nations are willing to join the fight and God knows Obama has tried in vain to ramp them up with weapons and equipment but they surrendered after the first bullet was fired . . . . it will take a lot of time but eventually the ME nations will get a clue that we are not coming to their rescue again . . . . period! It is central to the strategy of ISIS to lure American forces to engage which will further drain our treasury (not that we are not far enough in debt now) but if we did make that mistake it would be a great recruiting tool for ISIS and set up ISIS prediction that it is the end of days (whatever the fuck that means). I am proud Obama is strong enough to resist the slings and arrows of the right to intervene yet again into a no win cluster fuck . . . .  

Markle wrote:

As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

Markle wrote:As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

Bob wrote:Markle,  please do something for me.  Watch that CNN program referred to in the thread I just made about it.  I've included the upcoming showtimes (Friday and Sunday) in that thread.

I watch as much Fox News as you do.  But we all really need to have more than once source of information.  This won't take but an hour of your time.

Bob wrote:Markle,  please do something for me.  Watch that CNN program referred to in the thread I just made about it.  I've included the upcoming showtimes (Friday and Sunday) in that thread.

I watch as much Fox News as you do.  But we all really need to have more than once source of information.  This won't take but an hour of your time.

Bob wrote:

Markle wrote:

As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

Markle,  please do something for me.  Watch that CNN program referred to in the thread I just made about it.  I've included the upcoming showtimes (Friday and Sunday) in that thread.

I watch as much Fox News as you do.  But we all really need to have more than once source of information.  This won't take but an hour of your time.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

As you know:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:See what I mean, Bob?...... It is really funny when a KNOWN PROPAGANDIST accuses another person of pushing propaganda....

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:See what I mean, Bob?...... It is really funny when a KNOWN PROPAGANDIST accuses another person of pushing propaganda....

Once again you are proud to post that you have NOTHING.  

Step my good friend, show off for your comrades and in detail show what I have posted which is NOT true.

Come on...DO IT!

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:See what I mean, Bob?...... It is really funny when a KNOWN PROPAGANDIST accuses another person of pushing propaganda....

Once again you are proud to post that you have NOTHING.  

Step my good friend, show off for your comrades and in detail show what I have posted which is NOT true.

Come on...DO IT!

Why should we waste our time refuting bullshit......? You have a long way to climb on the credibility scale before most who post here accept anything you put here as nothing but pure right-wing propaganda. It has been that way for 10 years, Markle. I don't expect it will suddenly change.

Markle wrote:

knothead wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The reason the 2016 GOP hopefuls are pushing for new military interventions on the Middle East is to take the heat off of the fact they have few to none domestic policy proposals in their platform aimed at helping or doing anything for average Americans.

How can GOP candidates be pushing for NEW military interventions in the Middle East when semi-retired President Obama has been bombing the Middle East for well over a year AND has also returned boots on the ground.

October 31st ISIS plants a small bomb in a critical place and kill 224 people.

November 12th semi-retired President Obama makes an uninspiring speech and tells us that ISIS is CONTAINED and being defeated.



Friday, November 13th ISIS launches a multi point, expertly coordinated attack on Paris killing 139 and injuring hundreds more.

Now the State Department issues a WORLDWIDE TRAVEL ALERT.

At the same time, President Obama is going on TV and telling us DUN WORRRRY...EVERYTHING IS FINE.  Travel...go to sporting events, go shopping.

Yep...everything is under control after only SEVEN SHORT YEARS.

*****************************

In reply I personally have no doubt that all of the GOP candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul) would deploy significant military assets to the ME to fight the ISIS scourge. That said, right or wrong, is what I believe. Further, we as a nation now see clearly that invasion and occupation do not work either in the short or the long run . . . . we have tried that it does not work out . . . . has never and will never. Obama has and is doing what he can where he can absent committing our forces to the fight. Unless and until the affected nations are willing to join the fight and God knows Obama has tried in vain to ramp them up with weapons and equipment but they surrendered after the first bullet was fired . . . . it will take a lot of time but eventually the ME nations will get a clue that we are not coming to their rescue again . . . . period! It is central to the strategy of ISIS to lure American forces to engage which will further drain our treasury (not that we are not far enough in debt now) but if we did make that mistake it would be a great recruiting tool for ISIS and set up ISIS prediction that it is the end of days (whatever the fuck that means). I am proud Obama is strong enough to resist the slings and arrows of the right to intervene yet again into a no win cluster fuck . . . .  

As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

Markle challenges us to prove ANYTHING he wrote here which was not true.  Here's the real truth:  After Bush's infamous "surge,"and during the months before Obama withdrew our forces, hundreds of American troops were killed and maimed by IEDs and insurgent ambushes -- Iraq's Kurds were still in a shooting war with Maliki's Shiia forces.  The Sunnis were regrouping and as soon as the U.S. withdrew, they attacked -- ISIS is Sunni.   Semi-sane Markle's daily rant against Obama is, like most of his comments in this forum, pure propaganda, and arrogant.  He thinks his childlike bullshit is brilliant.  Reality.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

knothead wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The reason the 2016 GOP hopefuls are pushing for new military interventions on the Middle East is to take the heat off of the fact they have few to none domestic policy proposals in their platform aimed at helping or doing anything for average Americans.

How can GOP candidates be pushing for NEW military interventions in the Middle East when semi-retired President Obama has been bombing the Middle East for well over a year AND has also returned boots on the ground.

October 31st ISIS plants a small bomb in a critical place and kill 224 people.

November 12th semi-retired President Obama makes an uninspiring speech and tells us that ISIS is CONTAINED and being defeated.



Friday, November 13th ISIS launches a multi point, expertly coordinated attack on Paris killing 139 and injuring hundreds more.

Now the State Department issues a WORLDWIDE TRAVEL ALERT.

At the same time, President Obama is going on TV and telling us DUN WORRRRY...EVERYTHING IS FINE.  Travel...go to sporting events, go shopping.

Yep...everything is under control after only SEVEN SHORT YEARS.

*****************************

In reply I personally have no doubt that all of the GOP candidates (with the exception of Ron Paul) would deploy significant military assets to the ME to fight the ISIS scourge. That said, right or wrong, is what I believe. Further, we as a nation now see clearly that invasion and occupation do not work either in the short or the long run . . . . we have tried that it does not work out . . . . has never and will never. Obama has and is doing what he can where he can absent committing our forces to the fight. Unless and until the affected nations are willing to join the fight and God knows Obama has tried in vain to ramp them up with weapons and equipment but they surrendered after the first bullet was fired . . . . it will take a lot of time but eventually the ME nations will get a clue that we are not coming to their rescue again . . . . period! It is central to the strategy of ISIS to lure American forces to engage which will further drain our treasury (not that we are not far enough in debt now) but if we did make that mistake it would be a great recruiting tool for ISIS and set up ISIS prediction that it is the end of days (whatever the fuck that means). I am proud Obama is strong enough to resist the slings and arrows of the right to intervene yet again into a no win cluster fuck . . . .  

As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.
Markle challenges us to prove ANYTHING he wrote here which was not true.  Here's the real truth:  After Bush's infamous "surge,"and during the months before Obama withdrew our forces, hundreds of American troops were killed and maimed by IEDs and insurgent ambushes -- Iraq's Kurds were still in a shooting war with Maliki's Shiia forces.  The Sunnis were regrouping and as soon as the U.S. withdrew, they attacked -- ISIS is Sunni.   Semi-sane Markle's daily rant against Obama is, like most of his comments in this forum, pure propaganda, and arrogant.  He thinks his childlike bullshit is brilliant.  Reality.

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:

Markle wrote:

As you know, Iraq was a peaceful nation when semi-retired President Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and intentionally created the vacuum that brought in ISIS.  We told you that this is what would happen.

I'm glad you're proud of the total disaster semi-retired President Obama has made by leading from behind in the world and the economic disaster in this country.

Markle,  please do something for me.  Watch that CNN program referred to in the thread I just made about it.  I've included the upcoming showtimes (Friday and Sunday) in that thread.

I watch as much Fox News as you do.  But we all really need to have more than once source of information.  This won't take but an hour of your time.

I posted a piece of HISTORY.

You posted a hate and propaganda piece by well known plagiarist and coincidentally Muslim, FAREED ZAKARIA. Markle is an Islamophobic racist. "Coincidentally Muslim?"

It is well known that Mr. Zakaria HATES the Bush family and much of America.  He has been suspended at least twice by CNN for plagiarizing dozens of his pieces.  It must have greatly pained CNN to suspend such a loyal Progressive and hater of the Bush family.

Mr. Zakaria also HATES the strength of America's military just as does his hero semi-retired President Obama. You have proof of your claim that either of these men actually HATE THE STRENGTH OF AMERICA'S MILITARY? I THOUGHT NOT.

It is an old re-run which ran a couple months ago.  Perhaps CNN figured they might attract a few of the rabid Bush haters in time slots for which they had nothing else.  I watched bits and pieces before and there was not a line or hardly a word that was not deprecating to President George Bush and America in general.

I'm sure their ratings will be off the charts.... Which proves just how hated Bush is by most of America!