Genetic test may predict homosexuality with 70% reliability

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-genetic-study-of-homosexuality-evidence-that-nurture-and-nature-conspire/ar-AAffLyZ?li=AAa0dzB

It appears the Supreme Court was right and Huckabee was wrong.

So now what ? we  eliminate them In utero ?..

Well like they say it is just a guess anyway,,,

"Our best guess is that there are genes" that affect a man's sexual orientation

It means they get equal protection of the law because like skin color, gender, and other immutable characteristics they have very little say as to who they are. The discrimination must stop. How can conservatives who talk liberty, want to criminalize and marginalize folks who are predestined to be who they are.

2seaoat wrote:It means they get equal protection of the law because like skin color, gender, and other immutable characteristics they have very little say as to who they are.  The discrimination must stop.  How can conservatives who talk liberty, want to criminalize and marginalize folks who are predestined to be who they are.

We can all live under the same laws but you see idiots give them special laws like hate crime laws and special preference laws...so yeah equal under the law PERIOD !

So, if someone told you your child would be gay, and you had an abortion for that reason, wouldn't that be a hate crime?

We have some deeply confused people. I had a genetic predisposition to run very fast. I had a genetic predisposition to be susceptible to endocrine cancer. I had a genetic predisposition to have high blood pressure. Were these choices I had. As science catches up to reality, most folks who were not haters already knew some of these conclusions.

tealeaf wrote:So, if someone told you your child would be gay, and you had an abortion for that reason, wouldn't that be a hate crime?

No it would be a crime of convenience like all other abortions.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

No it would be a crime of convenience like all other abortions.

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No Bible believer can ever accept that homosexuality is genetic.  If it was genetic that would mean God made people be homosexuals.  And since God is perfect and never makes mistakes,  God would not then tell us the homosexuality he himself created is an abominable sin.  Which of course proves homosexuality is a choice.  They chose it because they want to get more rights than normal people.  It's that simple.
At least that's what a local Baptist pastor said on his radio talk show this afternoon.

If it were genetic then wouldn't it be diminishing?

PkrBum wrote:If it were genetic then wouldn't it be diminishing?

Not sure I understand.  If it is genetic,  and your genes determine what your sexual orientation is,  why would it be diminishing?

Question for teo. If science does actually identify a "gay gene", how would you reconcile that with the Bible telling us it's an abominable sin?

Bob wrote:Question for teo.   If science does actually identify a "gay gene",  how would you reconcile that with the Bible telling us it's an abominable sin?

Mutation cause by cheap beer...not God's fault.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Bob wrote:Question for teo.   If science does actually identify a "gay gene",  how would you reconcile that with the Bible telling us it's an abominable sin?

Mutation cause by cheap beer...not God's fault.

Well my Dad and his brother did drink a whole lot of Busch Bavarian in their time.
But they didn't do it until they both moved here.  And by then I was six years old.
Do you think the fact that they drank Busch Bavarian around me could have caused my genes to mutate?  That would explain it.
I can tell you this.  I drank a can of Busch Bavarian one time and it made me throw up.  So I can see how it could wreck your genes.
I just wish God could have warned us about Busch Bavarian in the Bible.
That way Dad and his brother would have switched to Heineken or something and now I would be normal.

Bob,
It goes beyond Man. If God is perfection and truth, and sits at the apex of the universe, the natural world, math, and science, it is obvious that parts of the bible cannot be taken literally. Because in the animal world, the creatures that God selected and Moses put on the boat.........I mean really......literally.....put on the boat.....?......have same sex orientation. In some parts of the living world that God sits at the apex, there are same organism, same sex reproduction.....I reject in its entirety literal interpretations of the bible which are irrational and inconsistent. There is much more to the bible. The inconsistencies in the bible in regard to Homosexuals renders much of the certainty of the hypocrites, like Noah's boat, seemingly incoherent and foolish. There simply are things beyond our perception to discern the subtle perfection of God, and sadly our guides are often the fool's who think they see with clarity, we were warned about those hypocrites.

Bob wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Bob wrote:Question for teo.   If science does actually identify a "gay gene",  how would you reconcile that with the Bible telling us it's an abominable sin?

Mutation cause by cheap beer...not God's fault.

Well my Dad and his brother did drink a whole lot of Busch Bavarian in their time.
But they didn't do it until they both moved here.  And by then I was six years old.
Do you think the fact that they drank Busch Bavarian around me could have caused my genes to mutate?  That would explain it.
I can tell you this.  I drank a can of Busch Bavarian one time and it made me throw up.  So I can see how it could wreck your genes.  

The best test is when you drink a lot of beer does your head spin and is it hard to walk straight ?...If you answered yes, you may be a mutant.

2seaoat wrote:Bob,
It goes beyond Man.  If God is perfection and truth, and sits at the apex of the universe, the natural world, math, and science, it is obvious that parts of the bible cannot be taken literally.  Because in the animal world, the creatures that God selected and Moses put on the boat.........I mean really......literally.....put on the boat.....?......have same sex orientation.  In some parts of the living world that God sits at the apex, there are same organism, same sex reproduction.....I reject in its entirety literal interpretations of the bible which are irrational and inconsistent.  There is much more to the bible.  The inconsistencies in the bible in regard to Homosexuals renders much of the certainty of the hypocrites, like Noah's boat, seemingly incoherent and foolish.  There simply are things beyond our perception to discern the subtle perfection of God, and sadly our guides are often the fool's who think they see with clarity, we were warned about those hypocrites.  

So you're saying that even though the Holy Bible says homosexuality is a sin, that God doesn't actually believe that himself? Is that correct?

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Bob,
It goes beyond Man.  If God is perfection and truth, and sits at the apex of the universe, the natural world, math, and science, it is obvious that parts of the bible cannot be taken literally.  Because in the animal world, the creatures that God selected and Moses put on the boat.........I mean really......literally.....put on the boat.....?......have same sex orientation.  In some parts of the living world that God sits at the apex, there are same organism, same sex reproduction.....I reject in its entirety literal interpretations of the bible which are irrational and inconsistent.  There is much more to the bible.  The inconsistencies in the bible in regard to Homosexuals renders much of the certainty of the hypocrites, like Noah's boat, seemingly incoherent and foolish.  There simply are things beyond our perception to discern the subtle perfection of God, and sadly our guides are often the fool's who think they see with clarity, we were warned about those hypocrites.  

So you're saying that even though the Holy Bible says homosexuality is a sin,  that God doesn't actually believe that himself?  Is that correct?

He does seem to be saying that....well Matt 6 won't count for much when you tell God he fouled up everything else....

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

The best test is when you drink a lot of beer does your head spin and is it hard to walk straight ?...If you answered yes, you may be a mutant.

It shouldn't effect me.  Because when I drink a lot of beer I always neutralize it by drinking Seagrams VO too.  That should kill all the gay cooties the beer puts in me.
It works too. Because after I drink enough of both, I forget about sex alltogether. Actually I forget about everything alltogether until I come to the next morning.

Bob wrote:

PkrBum wrote:If it were genetic then wouldn't it be diminishing?

Not sure I understand.  If it is genetic,  and your genes determine what your sexual orientation is,  why would it be diminishing?

Because unless it's a mutation then it would be a trait passed down through reproduction.

So you're saying that even though the Holy Bible says homosexuality is a sin, that God doesn't actually believe that himself? Is that correct?


It says Pace and T are sinners too, but I find the literal attempts at interpretation of the bible by in an inductive reasoning approach as illogical and not staying true to the truth of the bible which is much more general. I think that deductive reasoning with the Bible is the proper approach which allows the specific contrary data to be contextually reasoned to achieve the overall answer. Inductive reasoning with the bible is a fools errand where the inconsistencies either render it incomprehensible for a rational man, or a laughing matter which those who attack faith always find inductive examples which are absurd. Bob you are no more a sinner than Pace or T, nor is your predisposition critical because it is the general, not the specifics which are the key to understanding the bible. A hypocrite will ALWAYS use inductive reasoning to be selective and attack, and God warns us clearly of this folly......it really is a matter of intelligence understanding the perfection of God must by definition be a deductive journey.

Wow great deduction Right Reverend Wright.....

Romans 3:23

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

PkrBum wrote:

Bob wrote:

PkrBum wrote:If it were genetic then wouldn't it be diminishing?

Not sure I understand.  If it is genetic,  and your genes determine what your sexual orientation is,  why would it be diminishing?

Because unless it's a mutation then it would be a trait passed down through reproduction.

I'm trying to wrap my mind around homosexuality being "a trait passed down through reproduction". What would be an example of another trait passed down through reproduction and that may help me understand this.

Bob wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Bob wrote:

PkrBum wrote:If it were genetic then wouldn't it be diminishing?

Not sure I understand.  If it is genetic,  and your genes determine what your sexual orientation is,  why would it be diminishing?

Because unless it's a mutation then it would be a trait passed down through reproduction.

I'm trying to wrap my mind around homosexuality being "a trait passed down through reproduction".  What would be an example of another trait passed down through reproduction and that may help me understand this.  

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