Will the Real Christians Please Stand up?

Wordslinger wrote:.....his brand of Christianity appears to be a million miles distant from that of Christian usurpers, who seek to justify their discriminations while simultaneously declaring their allegiance, belief and love for Him.

PkrBum wrote:We already have the most generous and liberal legal immigration system in the world... and even gave amnesty once.

Why don't you fix mexico? But I wouldn't try crossing that border illegally... mexico doesn't take kindly to it.

Joanimaroni wrote:

PkrBum wrote:We already have the most generous and liberal legal immigration system in the world... and even gave amnesty once.

Why don't you fix mexico? But I wouldn't try crossing that border illegally... mexico doesn't take kindly to it.

I posted once before the penalties for entering Mexico illegally. The penalties includes a mandatory prison sentence.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

PkrBum wrote:We already have the most generous and liberal legal immigration system in the world... and even gave amnesty once.

Why don't you fix mexico? But I wouldn't try crossing that border illegally... mexico doesn't take kindly to it.

I posted once before the penalties for entering Mexico illegally. The penalties includes a mandatory prison sentence.

This thread isn't about "fixing" Mexico.  It's about rationalizing that it's Christian to dislike illegals and hope for their arrest and deportation.  Any comment on what the thread is about?

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

PkrBum wrote:We already have the most generous and liberal legal immigration system in the world... and even gave amnesty once.

Why don't you fix mexico? But I wouldn't try crossing that border illegally... mexico doesn't take kindly to it.

I posted once before the penalties for entering Mexico illegally. The penalties includes a mandatory prison sentence.

This thread isn't about "fixing" Mexico.  It's about rationalizing that it's Christian to dislike illegals and hope for their arrest and deportation.  Any comment on what the thread is about?

Your threads concerning faith and religion are always filled with hate and vitriol.  How is it that someone like yourself is so filled with prejudice, racism and bigotry?

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Wordslinger wrote:Cruz, Rubio and Trump all proudly claim they are serious Christian believers.

Regardless of their claim -- much of which is obviously based on the fact they need the evangelist vote -- after listening to the Pope all week, you know, the world's leading Christian -- I have no choice but to wonder how the pretend Christians rationalize their hatred of the poor, the weak, the displaced, the folks according to Papa Francis, whom Jesus would have knelt down before doing some serious foot-washing.

According to the Pope, we all need to show compassion for those who live in poverty, fear, and hunger.  Senor Trump, on the other hand, wants to round-up and exile 12,000,000 Latino illegals -- many of whom have been here, working and paying taxes for decades.  Just how does El Trumpo rationalize sending all these families back to a corrupt country dominated by drug warlords?

And Trump is parroted by Cruz and Rubio, the other self-claimed Christians running on the republican ticket.  Hell, Trump even wants to take away the citizenship of people who were born on American soil. And he's ready to change the Constitution to do so.  


While I have to admit I don't believe in any God(s), it seems clear to me after listening to the Pope pound away at us to show compassion to all minority groups -- including gays -- women who have had abortions, people who have turned away from The Church, etc., his brand of Christianity appears to be a million miles distant from that of Christian usurpers, who seek to justify their discriminations while simultaneously declaring their allegiance, belief and love for Him.

The way I figure it, if I have to eat dinner with a Christian, I'd rather do it with El Papa than a phony.  Wouldn't you?  

Obamasucks wrote:The Pope never mentioned Christ in his speech to Congress.

Obamasucks wrote:You'd be wrong on all counts she writes.  What about churches who offer free housing, drug and rape counseling and such?

Not everyone can be part of the ministry in day to day operations. Not everyone is called to be a missionary.

For those who can't do the following, there is the option to tithe extra for causes at your church you deem worthy.

What would you know about religious persecution?  You take no stance on this forum but to fence sit and refrain to talk about Christ unless you are denigrating other Christians like your post above. Heck we have it here in the form of salinsky, Bof, and the op in this thread who leads the pack on religious discrimination.

My church has the Charis house for ladies who have been drug addicted, sexually abused, or just down and out unable to take care of themselves.  We probably send more to foreign missions than churches far larger.  We have many other works in the community, but you wouldn't know it unless you asked.

I haven't seen you make one stand for Christ on this forum ever.

SheWrites wrote:

Obamasucks wrote:You'd be wrong on all counts she writes.  What about churches who offer free housing, drug and rape counseling and such?

Not everyone can be part of the ministry in day to day operations. Not everyone is called to be a missionary.

For those who can't do the following, there is the option to tithe extra for causes at your church you deem worthy.

What would you know about religious persecution?  You take no stance on this forum but to fence sit and refrain to talk about Christ unless you are denigrating other Christians like your post above. Heck we have it here in the form of salinsky, Bof, and the op in this thread who leads the pack on religious discrimination.

My church has the Charis house for ladies who have been drug addicted, sexually abused, or just down and out unable to take care of themselves.  We probably send more to foreign missions than churches far larger.  We have many other works in the community, but you wouldn't know it unless you asked.

I haven't seen you make one stand for Christ on this forum ever.

I think it's great what you share about the things your church is doing.  Great and good for them.  

Did I say I knew religious persecution?  I only had a conversation with a couple who are serving in Iraq in a refugee camp.  And trust me, they do not spend time boasting of their service. They just do the work. They live with the threat of losing their lives but do their work anyway without national TV coverage and Mike Huckabee at their side.    There is no Christian living in America who knows persecution.  

I don't think it's about taking a side, Pacedog.  BTW, what Christian chooses such an offensive name that defames the President of the USA?  

A Christian is compassionate.  Jesus is the prime example, living embodiment of compassion.  He could have fought and wiped out whomever he chose to and sat upon a throne and declared the kingdom of heaven on earth yet he did not.

Do you dare accuse him of not choosing a side?  In my belief, he died for you and me.  That, my friend, is better than any choice of a side - you know, to lay down your life for a friend.  And that is what he did.  

So you say we cannot be part of a ministry everyday or a missionary?  Jesus said to be a light to the world, Pacedog.  How does your light shine here on this forum?  

I'm not against you nor any one who says they are a Christian but I am deeply saddened by the lack of Christlikeness I see in those who holler the loudest.

There, I got off my fence and shared.  

Salt and light, Pacedog, salt and light.  Love your neighbor as yourself.

SheWrites wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Cruz, Rubio and Trump all proudly claim they are serious Christian believers.

Regardless of their claim -- much of which is obviously based on the fact they need the evangelist vote -- after listening to the Pope all week, you know, the world's leading Christian -- I have no choice but to wonder how the pretend Christians rationalize their hatred of the poor, the weak, the displaced, the folks according to Papa Francis, whom Jesus would have knelt down before doing some serious foot-washing.

According to the Pope, we all need to show compassion for those who live in poverty, fear, and hunger.  Senor Trump, on the other hand, wants to round-up and exile 12,000,000 Latino illegals -- many of whom have been here, working and paying taxes for decades.  Just how does El Trumpo rationalize sending all these families back to a corrupt country dominated by drug warlords?

And Trump is parroted by Cruz and Rubio, the other self-claimed Christians running on the republican ticket.  Hell, Trump even wants to take away the citizenship of people who were born on American soil. And he's ready to change the Constitution to do so.  


While I have to admit I don't believe in any God(s), it seems clear to me after listening to the Pope pound away at us to show compassion to all minority groups -- including gays -- women who have had abortions, people who have turned away from The Church, etc., his brand of Christianity appears to be a million miles distant from that of Christian usurpers, who seek to justify their discriminations while simultaneously declaring their allegiance, belief and love for Him.

The way I figure it, if I have to eat dinner with a Christian, I'd rather do it with El Papa than a phony.  Wouldn't you?  

I think every human who claims to be a Christian must wage war against their human-ness and decide if they will be Christlike or use their Christianity as a power stance.  

I am a Christian and I don't care at all for the way organized religion has sat back and ran their mouths over how to run the country but in turn do nothing in their own neighborhoods to help the poor, the widows, the orphans.  

Sure, you have the folks who clean out their closets and give to local charities or donate food.  But where in their pretty clean houses and churches do you see the Christian coming along side a person in need and truly helping them out of their circumstance.  

Jesus taught that you don't just tell a person how to fix themselves you show them.  I'm not going to post bible verses but if you follow the overall teaching of Jesus you know from where I speak.

In Pensacola there is a man who puts feet to the teaching of Jesus and his hands on those in need.  Many in the churches do not like him because he preaches inclusion and so they separate themselves from the good he does because of his stance on homosexuality.  

To me, the Christian who shows and does not tell is the one who seeks to honor all Jesus taught.  I could never hear another sermon or step foot inside a church and live a perfectly useful life that adheres to the teaching of Jesus.

The limelight, politics, and of course money, have led Christians from their true calling to a quagmire that is only the butt of jokes and pointed to as hypocritical.
I'm not shocked at all by anyone on this forum who has no regard for anyone who says they are a Christian.

It's not about reading the bible cover to cover.  It's not about having all the answers on creation, God, Jesus, and the apostle's creed.  

Jesus said "Love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself."

Christians are too full of themselves to humble themselves and walk as Jesus walked.

I do admire the Pope.  He has come in and tossed over some tables just as Jesus did in the Temple.  

It is heartbreaking to see the damage caused by so-called Christians.  

Jesus said to be salt and light in the world.  The salt has lost its savor and there is a very dark cloud over those who shout the loudest that they are Christians.

Christians look to Kentucky and claim religious persecution.  HOGWASH

A Christian couple living and working with refugees in Iraq, not knowing if they will live or die in their simple work to feed and clothe people, are the people I freely call Christian.

Those with the label on their chest and using said label for their own advancement - I say hireling.  You know, not the true shepherd to care for the sheep but someone who is paid to look like the shepherd.  No heart.

The USA still, for some reason, is a beacon to many who desire freedom and a way of life that is better than what they have.  How would anyone revel in ripping families out of a decent way of life.

I do not have an answer to the ills our our country.  But I do know that too many people will not leave their comfort zone to offer a truly hands on solution.  We sit back, quote the Bible, quote the Constitution and never show the true freedom and love that both the book and paper offer.   Empty people with selfish attitudes of what they claim to have - God and country.

Obamasucks wrote:

SheWrites wrote:

Obamasucks wrote:You'd be wrong on all counts she writes.  What about churches who offer free housing, drug and rape counseling and such?

Not everyone can be part of the ministry in day to day operations. Not everyone is called to be a missionary.

For those who can't do the following, there is the option to tithe extra for causes at your church you deem worthy.

What would you know about religious persecution?  You take no stance on this forum but to fence sit and refrain to talk about Christ unless you are denigrating other Christians like your post above. Heck we have it here in the form of salinsky, Bof, and the op in this thread who leads the pack on religious discrimination.

My church has the Charis house for ladies who have been drug addicted, sexually abused, or just down and out unable to take care of themselves.  We probably send more to foreign missions than churches far larger.  We have many other works in the community, but you wouldn't know it unless you asked.

I haven't seen you make one stand for Christ on this forum ever.

I think it's great what you share about the things your church is doing.  Great and good for them.  

Did I say I knew religious persecution?  I only had a conversation with a couple who are serving in Iraq in a refugee camp.  And trust me, they do not spend time boasting of their service. They just do the work. They live with the threat of losing their lives but do their work anyway without national TV coverage and Mike Huckabee at their side.    There is no Christian living in America who knows persecution.  

I don't think it's about taking a side, Pacedog.  BTW, what Christian chooses such an offensive name that defames the President of the USA?  

A Christian is compassionate.  Jesus is the prime example, living embodiment of compassion.  He could have fought and wiped out whomever he chose to and sat upon a throne and declared the kingdom of heaven on earth yet he did not.

Do you dare accuse him of not choosing a side?  In my belief, he died for you and me.  That, my friend, is better than any choice of a side - you know, to lay down your life for a friend.  And that is what he did.  

So you say we cannot be part of a ministry everyday or a missionary?  Jesus said to be a light to the world, Pacedog.  How does your light shine here on this forum?  

I'm not against you nor any one who says they are a Christian but I am deeply saddened by the lack of Christlikeness I see in those who holler the loudest.

There, I got off my fence and shared.  

Salt and light, Pacedog, salt and light.  Love your neighbor as yourself.

Some of us have been persecuted. This forum is a great example of the ostracism and denigration that takes place of Christians everywhere. Yes, it does get worse in other places, but it is pretty bad here. We have the OP of this thread that leads the pack.

Religious persecution exists a lot here in Pensacola and is highlighted by Andy Marlette at the PNJ. Just two Sundays ago, there was a terrible blasphemous cartoon and editorial he wrote himself.

We have a POTUS who has done all he can to marginalize Christians everywhere, even claiming that we are not a Christian nation, when in fact, an elementary school text on US History proves otherwise.

I don't have to respect the man who holds the office.  Why don't you start talking to the liberals here who think that everything is W's fault? Why don't you stand up for Bush when the multitude of blame shifting from Obama to Bush takes place on a near daily basis.

No, we all can't be part of a ministry. We can tithe though and that helps promulgate ministries that the church is working on. You yourself said Christians aren't doing anything for the poor and needy, yet I give you examples and you could care less. Christians are doing great things, but this ADMINISTRATION has pretty much tossed the poor on the backburner in many ways...mostly on getting them off the dole and dependency on the government. That is probably Obama's biggest failure.

My light shines in that I stand up as  Christian here despite the constant ridicule from BOF, SAl, Z, FT, Vikingwoman, Bob, and Wordslinger.  My light shines in that I actually take care of my family responsibilities not depending on the government or others to do it for me.

Obamasucks wrote:

SheWrites wrote:

Obamasucks wrote:You'd be wrong on all counts she writes.  What about churches who offer free housing, drug and rape counseling and such?

Not everyone can be part of the ministry in day to day operations. Not everyone is called to be a missionary.

For those who can't do the following, there is the option to tithe extra for causes at your church you deem worthy.

What would you know about religious persecution?  You take no stance on this forum but to fence sit and refrain to talk about Christ unless you are denigrating other Christians like your post above. Heck we have it here in the form of salinsky, Bof, and the op in this thread who leads the pack on religious discrimination.

My church has the Charis house for ladies who have been drug addicted, sexually abused, or just down and out unable to take care of themselves.  We probably send more to foreign missions than churches far larger.  We have many other works in the community, but you wouldn't know it unless you asked.

I haven't seen you make one stand for Christ on this forum ever.

I think it's great what you share about the things your church is doing.  Great and good for them.  

Did I say I knew religious persecution?  I only had a conversation with a couple who are serving in Iraq in a refugee camp.  And trust me, they do not spend time boasting of their service. They just do the work. They live with the threat of losing their lives but do their work anyway without national TV coverage and Mike Huckabee at their side.    There is no Christian living in America who knows persecution.  

I don't think it's about taking a side, Pacedog.  BTW, what Christian chooses such an offensive name that defames the President of the USA?  

A Christian is compassionate.  Jesus is the prime example, living embodiment of compassion.  He could have fought and wiped out whomever he chose to and sat upon a throne and declared the kingdom of heaven on earth yet he did not.

Do you dare accuse him of not choosing a side?  In my belief, he died for you and me.  That, my friend, is better than any choice of a side - you know, to lay down your life for a friend.  And that is what he did.  

So you say we cannot be part of a ministry everyday or a missionary?  Jesus said to be a light to the world, Pacedog.  How does your light shine here on this forum?  

I'm not against you nor any one who says they are a Christian but I am deeply saddened by the lack of Christlikeness I see in those who holler the loudest.

There, I got off my fence and shared.  

Salt and light, Pacedog, salt and light.  Love your neighbor as yourself.

Some of us have been persecuted. This forum is a great example of the ostracism and denigration that takes place of Christians everywhere. Yes, it does get worse in other places, but it is pretty bad here. We have the OP of this thread that leads the pack.

Religious persecution exists a lot here in Pensacola and is highlighted by Andy Marlette at the PNJ. Just two Sundays ago, there was a terrible blasphemous cartoon and editorial he wrote himself.

We have a POTUS who has done all he can to marginalize Christians everywhere, even claiming that we are not a Christian nation, when in fact, an elementary school text on US History proves otherwise.

I don't have to respect the man who holds the office.  Why don't you start talking to the liberals here who think that everything is W's fault? Why don't you stand up for Bush when the multitude of blame shifting from Obama to Bush takes place on a near daily basis.

No, we all can't be part of a ministry. We can tithe though and that helps promulgate ministries that the church is working on. You yourself said Christians aren't doing anything for the poor and needy, yet I give you examples and you could care less. Christians are doing great things, but this ADMINISTRATION has pretty much tossed the poor on the backburner in many ways...mostly on getting them off the dole and dependency on the government. That is probably Obama's biggest failure.

My light shines in that I stand up as  Christian here despite the constant ridicule from BOF, SAl, Z, FT, Vikingwoman, Bob, and Wordslinger.  My light shines in that I actually take care of my family responsibilities not depending on the government or others to do it for me.

Obamasucks wrote:My light shines in that I stand up as  Christian here despite the constant ridicule from BOF, SAl, Z, FT, Vikingwoman, Bob, and Wordslinger.  My light shines in that I actually take care of my family responsibilities not depending on the government or others to do it for me.

Obamasucks wrote:

Some of us have been persecuted. This forum is a great example of the ostracism and denigration that takes place of Christians everywhere. Yes, it does get worse in other places, but it is pretty bad here. We have the OP of this thread that leads the pack.

Religious persecution exists a lot here in Pensacola and is highlighted by Andy Marlette at the PNJ. Just two Sundays ago, there was a terrible blasphemous cartoon and editorial he wrote himself.

We have a POTUS who has done all he can to marginalize Christians everywhere, even claiming that we are not a Christian nation, when in fact, an elementary school text on US History proves otherwise.

I don't have to respect the man who holds the office.  Why don't you start talking to the liberals here who think that everything is W's fault? Why don't you stand up for Bush when the multitude of blame shifting from Obama to Bush takes place on a near daily basis.

No, we all can't be part of a ministry. We can tithe though and that helps promulgate ministries that the church is working on. You yourself said Christians aren't doing anything for the poor and needy, yet I give you examples and you could care less. Christians are doing great things, but this ADMINISTRATION has pretty much tossed the poor on the backburner in many ways...mostly on getting them off the dole and dependency on the government. That is probably Obama's biggest failure.

My light shines in that I stand up as  Christian here despite the constant ridicule from BOF, SAl, Z, FT, Vikingwoman, Bob, and Wordslinger.  My light shines in that I actually take care of my family responsibilities not depending on the government or others to do it for me.

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