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Hillary Clinton to roll out $350 billion, 10-year college affordability plan

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/hillary-clinton-college-affordability/index.html



Meanwhile, we're all still waiting for any policy offering from any of the republican candidates that isn't either a gigantic wall on the Mexican border, war with Iran, or more strict abortion laws.



(CNN)Hillary Clinton will roll out her college affordability plan Monday, pledging to voters in New Hampshire that "costs won't be a barrier" to secondary education in a Clinton administration.

Clinton, who has been asked about college affordability throughout the first months of her campaign, will announce what her campaign is calling the "New College Compact," a pledge to tackle the cost of college, making low interest grants and loans more available and ensure the federal government "will never again profit off student loans for college students."

According to outlines of the plan previewed to CNN, the basis of Clinton's college promises include vowing that students will be able to attend in-state public colleges or universities "without ever having to take out a loan for tuition."

Clinton will do this, according to the campaign, by incentives to states that agree to provide "no-loan tuition at four-year public colleges and universities." States that agree, under the Clinton plan, will win grants from the federal government.

Clinton will also pledge to continue President Barack Obama's free tuition plan at community colleges, as well as ensuring that students will "never have to pay more than 10% of their income when repaying the loan."

"Everyone will be able to enroll in a simplified and streamlined income based repayment program so that borrowers never have to pay more than 10% of what they make," according to a white paper on Clinton's plan.

$350 billion over 10 years
According to the Clinton campaign, the plan will cost $350 billion over 10 years but will be "fully paid for by limiting certain tax expenditures for high-income taxpayers."

Clinton's campaign also released a video pegged to their college affordability plan. The video highlights a number of students have been saddled with up to $200,000 in student debt.

"Higher education should be a right, not a privilege for those who can afford it," the video argues.

Clinton will say Monday that the best way to combat lifting American incomes is by investing in education.

"College graduates earn $570,000 more on average in their careers than high school graduates," read a Clinton campaign fact sheet on the plan. "Graduates of community college, career training, certificate programs and coding boot camps also earn more."

Competing college plans
College affordability is a hot topic on the Democratic side of the 2016 presidential race.

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley unveiled a debt-free college plan in July, promising to lower tuition at state college and universities and tying loan repayment to income.

"Unless we act now, more and more students will not be able to afford higher education at all, putting the American Dream even further out of reach," the former governor said in a statement.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders promised voters that he would make all four-year public college and universities tuition free.

"We have a crisis in higher education today," Sanders said earlier this year in announcing his plan. "Too many of our young people cannot afford a college education, and those who are leaving college are faced with crushing debt."

Sanders has pitched the plan as something other countries have done, including Germany, Denmark and Finland.

Clinton will roll out her plan during a two-day swing through New Hampshire. On Monday, she will headline a town hall in Exeter and a grassroots organizing party in Manchester. On Tuesday, she will headline another town hall in Claremont and a community forum on substance abuse in Keene.

Debt-free college has been a particularly important issue for the progressive base of the Democratic Party.

The Progressive Change Campaign Caucus has pushed hard for each 2016 Democrat to back a "debt-free college" plan and has pledged to hold there candidates to their plans.


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Well done, Bernie.

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Silly proposal without addressing the structural gap in jobs and qualified American applicants.   These broad feel good legislative initiatives are what made me vote for Johnson rather than President Obama.   We need to pour our resources into filling the structural gap.  We do not need more college degrees in parks and recreation.  I think a comprehensive program which gave tuition credits for specific courses would be great.  However, throwing 350 billion down the drain without a plan, is stone cold stupid.  Ten years ago I could not find one junior college student who could build a simple SQL database.  I went to the department head and he was clueless as to the need, and then went to the library only to see data processing books from the 1970s coding in Fortran.  This requires much more than free tuition.  It requires changing the way student loans are given.  After a certain amount, the balance of student loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy.  They currently are not and many folks have 100k of debt which cannot be discharged.  Not everyone needs a college degree.  Student loans are like drugs.  They allow a young kid to spend up to six years oblivious to economic realities as their lifestyle is paid, but little or no understanding that these debts must be paid back.  We need to work with precision on college tuition reform, and not a sledge hammer.

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There will always be people who major in things like ancient hebrew or contemporary literature, though on average there is no doubt that there is a correlation between income and degree of educational attainment.   There is also an undeniable correlation between GDP and average level of educational attainment, as well as between standard of living and average level of educational attainment.

Further, I suspect that those who major in things like ancient hebrew or contemporary literature are most likely those would will not be affected by this policy regardless.  If some well-to-do suburban kid wants to learn contemporary literature on his parents dime for 6 years, that is certainly his/her choice.  Let's not prevent policy that will eliminate the cost barrier to a college education for those who otherwise would not be able to afford it simply because we can point to tales of rich kids spending their 20s hanging out in college learning useless subjects.


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Oh goody more candy for the peasants...

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Let's not prevent policy that will eliminate the cost barrier to a college education for those who otherwise would not be able to afford it simply because we can point to tales of rich kids spending their 20s hanging out in college learning useless subjects.

That is not my argument.  My argument is that 6 million American high tech jobs cannot be filled by Americans because we have failed to educate our students with the requisite skills.  This structural gap has been discussed for over a decade, and the answer is not free tuition.  We need to focus our resources training kids with skills which can fill this structural gap.  Free college tuition should not go any higher than sophomore in college and be limited to Junior Colleges.   There has been a rapid growth in for profit private colleges which produce degrees which turn American children into indentured servants because they have the loan debt.  I think it is a terrible mistake to pay tuition for these private colleges.  I think any effort should be more in line with the President's Junior college free tuition where we can still focus on the specialized degrees which are necessary.   I think this 350 billion proposal on the surface is absurd, but I will await the detail to see how they will address private colleges and student loans.

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Oh goody more candy for the peasants...

Education improves productivity and economic output.  However, this does have the appearance of not being well thought out and pandering to young people for their votes.   That may get you elected, but it is bad for America.  A more skillfully designed comprehensive higher education bill is needed in America and key to that bill is addressing dischargeability of student loans in bankruptcy.  It deals with rewarding those who educate to meet the structural needs of American industry, and a crackdown on the abuses of private colleges where profit not student needs seems to be the driving force.

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This is merely a politicians "promise". The skills gap that affects the economy the most is in manufacturing where in the coming few years an estimated 2M jobs will remain unfilled due to lack of skilled workers. Most of those don't require a college education but with STEM and technical skills training being cut out of secondary school curriculum where is the training going to come from? The current training program (WIOA) is hopelessly over regulated with a large percentage of funds going to administration fees rather than effective skills training.

Throwing billions at federally mandated "free state colleges" will put an immense burden on already underfunded states and schools. The "promise" to pay for this through more taxes on the wealthy is a fools errand.

How about something realistic for a change?

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gatorfan wrote:Throwing billions at federally mandated "free state colleges" will put an immense burden on already underfunded states and schools. The "promise" to pay for this through more taxes on the wealthy is a fools errand.


If we're throwing billions of dollars at them, how would they still be "underfunded"?


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The Japanese have built two new factories on the intersection of Interstate 88 and 39.  They make commuter rail cars.  Welding has evolved to a very specialized skill.   The local high school start sending sophomores over to a Junior college where the state of the art welding equipment has been installed in cooperation with the new factories.  Students are also taught Japanese and metallurgy.  These programs originated from local economic development corporations which donate the land to companies which build in the community.  It is not enough to build a new factory.  It requires having your schools produce graduates who have skills which may not necessarily be a college degree.  These jobs pay better than most college graduates get today.   To simply give free tuition without looking at what you are buying is bone chilling stupid.  I have less criticism for the President's free tuition for Junior colleges because most of your general education courses before a student specializes can be attained.  We need a massive investment in America in vocational education which does NOT involve college.  Our goal must be improved American productivity and certainly education has proven to increase the same, but painting with too wide of a brush rarely solves real world problems.

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Meanwhile, we're all still waiting for any policy offering from any of the republican candidates that isn't either a gigantic wall on the Mexican border, war with Iran, or more strict abortion laws.

You need to stress this to semi-demented poster Markle every time he starts a new thread boasting about Republican prospects.

As I said previously, the 2016 election promises to be the most exciting yet this century, and it is not even 2016 yet!

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Isn't the government on the hook for enough student loan debt to the tune of 1.3 trilion dollars?

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Hillary Clinton's give away plan will simply drive UP the cost of tuition.

Take AWAY student subsidies and government loans and watch tuitions plummet as schools COMPETE for students.


Federal Student Aid Drives Up Tuition


Preston Cooper | 07/10/2015

http://economics21.org/commentary/federal-student-loans-raise-tuition-07-10-2015

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