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How does Trump’s unprecedented campaign end?

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Floridatexan
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nadalfan



16 experts from across the political spectrum share their predictions.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-does-trump-end-120596.html#ixzz3h67yX17n


Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

nadalfan wrote:16 experts from across the political spectrum share their predictions.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-does-trump-end-120596.html#ixzz3h67yX17n



If there has ever been anything in American presidential politics like this, then my high school history teacher forgot to tell us about it.

nadalfan



Bob wrote:
nadalfan wrote:16 experts from across the political spectrum share their predictions.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/how-does-trump-end-120596.html#ixzz3h67yX17n



If there has ever been anything in American presidential politics like this,  then my high school history teacher forgot to tell us about it.

While he has said some idiotic, offensive things, it's hard for me not to find the whole thing amusing, especially watching this from the perspective of not wanting any of the gop candidates to win the presidency.

dumpcare



The only way I can see Trump bowing out is for someone to offer him a multi million dollar bribe to get the hell out of the way.

He is a distraction on the repubs and I believe he knows exactly what he's doing.

polecat

polecat

How does it end?
I would say badly for the elephants.

Guest


Guest

In flames hopefully.

2seaoat



I agreed with PK early on this was for publicity.  However, I think even Trump is surprised now with the response of GOP primary voters.  I think he will get Sarah Palin type of advise and stick to 10 bullet points and ram those home.  I think he will be in this until the convention next year as his own man, or will release his delegates for another candidate at the convention.  Right now Trump is in charge of the Republican party because of the folks who have been attracted to the Republican Party rhetoric for the past twenty years.....you live and die by the sword, and the Republican Party pandering to hate and fear has come back home to roost.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


What am I bid for a Stiffel lamp table that came out of Trump's house on Ono Island? (non-working condition)...had it since about 1991...my friend was Trump's housekeeper.

Sal

Sal

How far can hate and bluster carry him?

I don't know the answer, but my guess would be not much further.  

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:
What am I bid for a Stiffel lamp table that came out of Trump's house on Ono Island?  (non-working condition)...had it since about 1991...my friend was Trump's housekeeper.


Unlike seaoat and irwin corey,  I'm not "the world's foremost authority" on all topics.

I have expertise in only one area.  And luckily it's the expertise you need for this.
For that item to have any more value than what any "Stiffel lamp table" would have only because "it came out of Trump's house on Ono Island" would require two criteria to be met.

1.  That there is any demand for a piece of furniture that came out of a house Trump had lived in (assuming he did actually make residence there which is almost mandatory).

2.  For you to be in possession of the provenance required to document that claim.

If both criteria are met,  then you probably would have some market value additional to the value of the item by itself.  But as in all cases of this kind,  timing can also be a very critical factor.  
And what I mean by that is,  right now the Trump association with the object would be at a peak period simply because the interest in Trump is in a peak period.  We don't know how long Trumpism will be at a peak.
At some point,  like with any other collectible,  when the interest in the person associated with the object starts to wane,  then any value added to it would correspondingly begin to diminish.  And is so often the case,  once the person goes back out of the limelight again,  so does the interest in the object.
In other words you always need to strike when the fire is hot as they say.

But without provenance,  you won't get anywhere.  Many years ago I traded a pinball machine for an Elvis Sun 45.  The guy I traded with claimed he went to high school with Elvis and actually obtained the record from Elvis himself.
I did it only because I could sell a nice condition original Elvis Sun for more than the pinball machine.  Without having anything to back up the claim other than my word for it,  it really didn't matter if the record actually did belong to Elvis.  
And speaking of Elvis,  I once ran into a woman who had visited Graceland and had dug some of Elvis' toenail clippings out of the carpet.
She really put a high price on those,  and if she'd bothered to get someone in authority at Graceland to give her a signed document that Graceland was where it had come from,  I probably would have bought them for resale.
But without that they were worth no more than what your and my toenail clippings are worth.

If you have credible provenance on the table,  which proves that Trump actually lived there and it was a table in his residence,  I'll put in a bid on it.



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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

But don't keep me in suspense. Are you saying that at some point Trump owned a house on Ono Island and he would stay there?

When was this happening and why did he choose Ono Island?
Did the fact that this was happening ever get any local media attention?

polecat

polecat

Pretty clear that the first Republican candidate who compares immigrants to Hitler is going to win this primary.- LOLGOP

Markle

Markle

How it ends is irrelevant.

He is stirring the pot, bringing taboo subjects to the forefront and packing auditoriums forcing the other candidates take notice and respond to his comments.

Meanwhile Hillary is busy as a one armed paper hanger fending of scandal after scandal and being pulled so far to the left she can hardly be called a Democrat.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

2seaoat wrote:I agreed with PK early on this was for publicity.  However, I think even Trump is surprised now with the response of GOP primary voters.  I think he will get Sarah Palin type of advise and stick to 10 bullet points and ram those home.  I think he will be in this until the convention next year as his own man, or will release his delegates for another candidate at the convention.  Right now Trump is in charge of the Republican party because of the folks who have been attracted to the Republican Party rhetoric for the past twenty years.....you live and die by the sword, and the Republican Party pandering to hate and fear has come back home to roost.

Exactly, the republican party has created a knee-jerk set of mindless followers who are so used to being constantly upset and fearful that they can't remember what 'relaxed and happy' even feels like. They can't think in that condition.
So, here comes the Trumpster spewing his own brand of off the cuff uncensored remarks and they think he is the best thing since sliced bread. Unfortunately in their search for and attraction to someone who seems to speak the unvarnished "truth" they forget to evaluate what he is saying. Never mind it is really gobbledegook bumper sticker BS: I'm going to make America great again." Wonderful.
Pathetically so many politicians are so "over-handled" in what they can and can't say that he comes across to some as being refreshing. But please, listen to what he is saying/not/saying.
Why do Republicans like that he is trashing their party? I don't get that part. oh wait, because the current group of R's is not conservative enough.
I hope he runs as a third party candidate. It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of politicians, really.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:How it ends is irrelevant.

He is stirring the pot, bringing taboo subjects to the forefront and packing auditoriums forcing the other candidates take notice and respond to his comments.

Meanwhile Hillary is busy as a one armed paper hanger fending of scandal after scandal and being pulled so far to the left she can hardly be called a Democrat.

Hillary is currently the leading democratic candidate for the presidency, and Trump is the leading republican candidate. And anyone here is uncertain why America is in free fall decline? Semi-sane "I know NOSSING! Markle says Trump is good for the republicans. And up is down, dry is wet, good is evil, night is day, cold is hot ... LOL

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

I think the presidential candidate with the fastest rising popularity isn't Trump -- it's Bernie Sanders, who, polls now state, is beginning to seriously threaten Hillary's candidacy. Go Bernie!!!

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