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PkrBum wrote:http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/421166/iran-nuclear-deal-resist-inspection
The rules for access to suspicious sites can be found in Section Q of the first annex to the agreement. If inspectors have concerns about undeclared sites, they must submit to Iran a request in writing that explains their concerns. Iran may counter with a proposal for “alternative means” of resolving the issue without actually allowing inspectors to inspect anything. If the inspectors and the regime can’t agree to a solution within two weeks, the dispute gets kicked up to a higher level. In other words, Iran has a license to stall for two full weeks whenever it does something suspicious.
After two weeks, the problem gets handed over to the Joint Commission, a new body whose membership and responsibility is defined in Annex IV to the agreement. Basically, the commission has eight members, one for each of the countries who are party to the agreement, plus the EU. A majority of five commission members may “advise” Iran on how to resolve the inspectors’ concerns. The commission has seven days to address the inspectors’ concerns, after which Iran has three days to implement any recommended measures. So, at minimum, Iran will have 24 days to clean up any suspicious sites before inspectors get a first look.
PkrBum wrote:They would rather believe whatever comes out of obama's mouth... even if it's a revision only a few days old.
I wonder how they will do following hillary. I don't think it will be difficult considering how many 180s obama makes.
"But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” Clinton said last week. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism, they use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and create insurgencies to destabilize governments."'
PkrBum wrote:http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/421166/iran-nuclear-deal-resist-inspection
The rules for access to suspicious sites can be found in Section Q of the first annex to the agreement. If inspectors have concerns about undeclared sites, they must submit to Iran a request in writing that explains their concerns. Iran may counter with a proposal for “alternative means” of resolving the issue without actually allowing inspectors to inspect anything. If the inspectors and the regime can’t agree to a solution within two weeks, the dispute gets kicked up to a higher level. In other words, Iran has a license to stall for two full weeks whenever it does something suspicious.
After two weeks, the problem gets handed over to the Joint Commission, a new body whose membership and responsibility is defined in Annex IV to the agreement. Basically, the commission has eight members, one for each of the countries who are party to the agreement, plus the EU. A majority of five commission members may “advise” Iran on how to resolve the inspectors’ concerns. The commission has seven days to address the inspectors’ concerns, after which Iran has three days to implement any recommended measures. So, at minimum, Iran will have 24 days to clean up any suspicious sites before inspectors get a first look.
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Oh no..Obama looks like he's finally earning his peace prize....what's the world coming to.....?
Demssuck wrote:Nothing will happen when, and they already have, cheated, on the agreement. Iran watched the song and dance given to Iraq from the first Gulf War to the 2003 invasion. That guarantees Iran almost twelve more years of putting off inspectors, hemming, hawing, using the UN and the IAEA as proxies until they have a smorgasbord of multiple weapons to shoot at the entire world. In the meantime, they will take the just released funds held to further spread hate and discontent with their proxies Hezbollah and Hamas. Oh, and Assad in Syria will now be protected by their soon opened nuclear umbrella. Pandora's Box is now wide open for business. Awesome.
nadalfan wrote:PkrBum wrote:They would rather believe whatever comes out of obama's mouth... even if it's a revision only a few days old.
I wonder how they will do following hillary. I don't think it will be difficult considering how many 180s obama makes.
"But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” Clinton said last week. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism, they use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and create insurgencies to destabilize governments."'
I trust President Obama over the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require compromises.
Markle wrote:nadalfan wrote:PkrBum wrote:They would rather believe whatever comes out of obama's mouth... even if it's a revision only a few days old.
I wonder how they will do following hillary. I don't think it will be difficult considering how many 180s obama makes.
"But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” Clinton said last week. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism, they use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and create insurgencies to destabilize governments."'
I trust President Obama over the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require compromises.
How can you trust semi-retired President Obama when he has been crowned as LIAR OF THE YEAR. How can you trust Iran when historically they, like North Korea, have NEVER been truthful.
nadalfan wrote:Markle wrote:nadalfan wrote:PkrBum wrote:They would rather believe whatever comes out of obama's mouth... even if it's a revision only a few days old.
I wonder how they will do following hillary. I don't think it will be difficult considering how many 180s obama makes.
"But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” Clinton said last week. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism, they use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and create insurgencies to destabilize governments."'
I trust President Obama over the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require compromises.
How can you trust semi-retired President Obama when he has been crowned as LIAR OF THE YEAR. How can you trust Iran when historically they, like North Korea, have NEVER been truthful.
I don't trust the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require.
ok, fixed it so you don't get caught up in that part of the comment
TEOTWAWKI wrote:nadalfan wrote:Markle wrote:nadalfan wrote:PkrBum wrote:They would rather believe whatever comes out of obama's mouth... even if it's a revision only a few days old.
I wonder how they will do following hillary. I don't think it will be difficult considering how many 180s obama makes.
"But even if we do get such a deal, we will still have major problems from Iran,” Clinton said last week. “They are the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism, they use proxies like Hezbollah to sow discord and create insurgencies to destabilize governments."'
I trust President Obama over the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require compromises.
How can you trust semi-retired President Obama when he has been crowned as LIAR OF THE YEAR. How can you trust Iran when historically they, like North Korea, have NEVER been truthful.
I don't trust the fear mongering, war craving, Bibi worshiping, Obama hate obsessed right wing tools that have proven their foreign policy approach is not in the best interest of this country. Many even came out against the deal before they even read it. Politically motivated? nah, couldn't be
I trust a deal more because it involved, not just the United States, but several countries.
I trust the adults who realize that these kinds of agreements are not perfect, that they require.
ok, fixed it so you don't get caught up in that part of the comment
You just don't see the bigger picture ...Boeing, Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, G/E. , Raytheon, The Pentagon all need their blood money to pump up their swollen bottom lines or justify their bloated budgets.....it's just business.....
boards of FL wrote:PkrBum wrote:http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/421166/iran-nuclear-deal-resist-inspection
The rules for access to suspicious sites can be found in Section Q of the first annex to the agreement. If inspectors have concerns about undeclared sites, they must submit to Iran a request in writing that explains their concerns. Iran may counter with a proposal for “alternative means” of resolving the issue without actually allowing inspectors to inspect anything. If the inspectors and the regime can’t agree to a solution within two weeks, the dispute gets kicked up to a higher level. In other words, Iran has a license to stall for two full weeks whenever it does something suspicious.
After two weeks, the problem gets handed over to the Joint Commission, a new body whose membership and responsibility is defined in Annex IV to the agreement. Basically, the commission has eight members, one for each of the countries who are party to the agreement, plus the EU. A majority of five commission members may “advise” Iran on how to resolve the inspectors’ concerns. The commission has seven days to address the inspectors’ concerns, after which Iran has three days to implement any recommended measures. So, at minimum, Iran will have 24 days to clean up any suspicious sites before inspectors get a first look.
So if the Iran deal is a bust, what policy is it exactly that you support with Iran?
boards of FL wrote:PkrBum wrote:http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/421166/iran-nuclear-deal-resist-inspection
The rules for access to suspicious sites can be found in Section Q of the first annex to the agreement. If inspectors have concerns about undeclared sites, they must submit to Iran a request in writing that explains their concerns. Iran may counter with a proposal for “alternative means” of resolving the issue without actually allowing inspectors to inspect anything. If the inspectors and the regime can’t agree to a solution within two weeks, the dispute gets kicked up to a higher level. In other words, Iran has a license to stall for two full weeks whenever it does something suspicious.
After two weeks, the problem gets handed over to the Joint Commission, a new body whose membership and responsibility is defined in Annex IV to the agreement. Basically, the commission has eight members, one for each of the countries who are party to the agreement, plus the EU. A majority of five commission members may “advise” Iran on how to resolve the inspectors’ concerns. The commission has seven days to address the inspectors’ concerns, after which Iran has three days to implement any recommended measures. So, at minimum, Iran will have 24 days to clean up any suspicious sites before inspectors get a first look.
So if the Iran deal is a bust, what policy is it exactly that you support with Iran?
PkrBum wrote:Not to mention that at the end of that arbitration if no resolution is found it goes to the un security council...
where russia and china will veto the resolution. As they both will be making billions selling conventional weaponry.
PkrBum wrote:Not to mention that at the end of that arbitration if no resolution is found it goes to the un security council...
where russia and china will veto the resolution. As they both will be making billions selling conventional weaponry.
boards of FL wrote:PkrBum wrote:Not to mention that at the end of that arbitration if no resolution is found it goes to the un security council...
where russia and china will veto the resolution. As they both will be making billions selling conventional weaponry.
Here again, what is the optimal solution that you support? If not this one, what?
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