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Ferguson Police Chief resigns. Thugs move into Ferguson to riot, loot and two police are shot.

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Markle

Markle

Ferguson Police Chief resigns. Thugs move into Ferguson to riot, loot and two police are shot.

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2 St. Louis County police officers shot outside Ferguson police department
Published March 12, 2015
·FoxNews.com

BREAKING: Two St. Louis County police officers were shot early Thursday outside the police department in Ferguson, Mo. amid protests that followed the resignation of the town's police chief.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar told a news conference just before 2 a.m. local time that a 41-year-old officer was shot in the shoulder, while a 32-year-old officer was shot in the face. Both officers were taken to a local hospital and were conscious, but there was no further word about their condition. The official said that at least three shots were fired and were believed to come from a house across the street from the police department.

The shooting was first reported by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

KTVI reported that as many as 200 protesters had gathered outside the police station to demand more changes in the city's government after the resignation of Police Chief Tom Jackson Wednesday afternoon. The station reported that at least one person had been arrested and that protesters were blocking traffic on nearby Florissant Road.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/12/2-police-officers-reported-shot-outside-ferguson-police-department/

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

There is no report of looting from the 80 or so protestors who assembled last night in Ferguson.  The shooter or shooters were evidently positioned across the street and up a hill from where the two officers were shot.


While no rational person would accept the violence that resulted in the two officers being shot, the reality is the courts, the administration and the cops of Ferguson have acted in a predatory manner against the black population of that municipality for a long time.


Nationally, the militarization of our police, the spying that goes on continually on our private communications, combined with the shoot-from-the-hip philosophy of violence-prone, racist cops has created an atmosphere of mistrust.


As I've written, here and elsewhere the relationship between the cops and the people they're supposed to protect has changed to one of conflict and distrust.  It's US vs. THEM and if and until the cops change their aggressive and violence-prone ways, the war will continue.


And there will be blood.  Consider the length and depth of Ferguson's organized, governmental racism, and the miracle is that so few cops have been gunned down.



Reality.

KarlRove

KarlRove

And for every action, there is a reaction. The thugs can't outgun the national guard- a national guard with probably a butt ton of combat experience in Iraq and Adghsnistan. They will mop up the streets with the thugs and it will be the thugs own fault for being stupid.

2seaoat



And for every action, there is a reaction. The thugs can't outgun the national guard- a national guard with probably a butt ton of combat experience in Iraq and Adghsnistan. They will mop up the streets with the thugs and it will be the thugs own fault for being stupid.


Nonsense. One cowardly sniper can take out police at his or her whim, and combat experience means jack. A military response to criminal behavior......our founding fathers warned us of such.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:And for every action, there is a reaction. The thugs can't outgun the national guard- a national guard with probably a butt ton of combat experience in Iraq and Adghsnistan. They will mop up the streets with the thugs and it will be the thugs own fault for being stupid.


Nonsense.  One cowardly sniper can take out police at his or her whim, and combat experience means jack.  A military response to criminal behavior......our founding fathers warned us of such.


Spoken by a man without any combat experience. Nuf said.

Sometimes when the cops are outgunned, you need a military response. You should fear it though, because once martial law is declared your habeus corpus rights are gone. Oh, the national guard can handle taking down a sniper. Idiots like you who don't think it can be done are in for a sad awakening.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:And for every action, there is a reaction.  The thugs can't outgun the national guard- a national guard with probably a butt ton of combat experience in Iraq and Adghsnistan.  They will mop up the streets with the thugs and it will be the thugs own fault for being stupid.


How will they know who "the thugs" are?  Skin color?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:
2seaoat wrote:And for every action, there is a reaction. The thugs can't outgun the national guard- a national guard with probably a butt ton of combat experience in Iraq and Adghsnistan. They will mop up the streets with the thugs and it will be the thugs own fault for being stupid.


Nonsense.  One cowardly sniper can take out police at his or her whim, and combat experience means jack.  A military response to criminal behavior......our founding fathers warned us of such.


Spoken by a man without any combat experience. Nuf said.

Sometimes when the cops are outgunned, you need a military response. You should fear it though, because once martial law is declared your habeus corpus rights are gone. Oh, the national guard can handle taking down a sniper. Idiots like you who don't think it can be done are in for a sad awakening.


Get real.  A sniper or two shot two cops.  They weren't among the protestors outside the police department.  And you want to bring in the National Guard?  Should the guard just start by machinegunning protestors from helicopters or Bradleys? 

Maybe they could just mash the protestors under a pair of Abrams?

KarlRove

KarlRove

I think it's time that some tough love was demonstrated. In thst town letting this go by unanswered is the wrong thing to do.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:I think it's time that some tough love was demonstrated. In thst town letting this go by unanswered is the wrong thing to do.


Nobody is advocating that the shooters should not be found and punished.  But let's also consider that Ferguson's cops are BAD COPS.
Ditto the city council, the Ferguson courts, the former police chief and the mayor. 

The hatred the black population has for Ferguson's cops is deserved.

Tough love is exactly what needs to be given the racist cops of Ferguson.

2seaoat



So your military response is going to stop a person who is a trained marksman from killing randomly across this country. Two idiots in a trunk of a car reigned terror killing 17 and wounding 10, and no military response would have made a difference.........you claim to have military experience, but you really do not know very much.........most of the victims were dead before they heard anything, and these snipers appear to have been making head shots...........you are entertaining, but I doubt you ever have shot a gun, let alone competed with real marksmen. You know jack. Military experience my asz.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Wordslinger wrote:
KarlRove wrote:I think it's time that some tough love was demonstrated. In thst town letting this go by unanswered is the wrong thing to do.


Nobody is advocating that the shooters should not be found and punished.  But let's also consider that Ferguson's cops are BAD COPS.
Ditto the city council, the Ferguson courts, the former police chief and the mayor. 

The hatred the black population has for Ferguson's cops is deserved.

Tough love is exactly what needs to be given the racist cops of Ferguson.

How do you know the exact two who were shot were the racist ones? Hmmm?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

OMG.....Wordslinger  justified the shootings....racial inequality.

2seaoat



OMG.....Wordslinger justified the shootings....racial inequality.


The point I have been making with Rambo Bob is that revenge is wrong. There is no justification and the legal system works best. What I am bothered by is the attempt to connect the protesters and the shooter in this incident. One officer had an entry point at his shoulder and exit wound near his spine in the lower back. The witnesses saw muzzle flash 100 to 125 yards away from where the officers were shot and behind the protesters. These shots did not come from the protesters, but came from a higher point behind the protesters.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:OMG.....Wordslinger  justified the shootings....racial inequality.


The point I have been making with Rambo Bob is that revenge is wrong.  There is no justification and the legal system works best.  What I am bothered by is the attempt to connect the protesters and the shooter in this incident.  One officer had an entry point at his shoulder and exit wound near his spine in the lower back.  The witnesses saw muzzle flash 100 to 125 yards away from where the officers were shot and behind the protesters.  These shots did not come from the protesters, but came from a higher point behind the protesters.


The shooter was not in the middle of protestors...but in a spot where he could escape.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:So your military response is going to stop a person who is a trained marksman from killing randomly across this country. Two idiots in a trunk of a car reigned terror killing 17 and wounding 10, and no military response would have made a difference.........you claim to have military experience, but you really do not know very much.........most of the victims were dead before they heard anything, and these snipers appear to have been making head shots...........you are entertaining, but I doubt you ever have shot a gun, let alone competed with real marksmen. You know jack. Military experience my asz.

How do you know the sniper was military trained? You don't and any idiot can by a scope for a rifle at a gun shop and have it sighted in on a local range. The cops aren't even dead either. That goes to show you the sniper wasn't military trained. Had they been, neither cop makes it to the hospital. You're clueless as usual.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:OMG.....Wordslinger justified the shootings....racial inequality.


The point I have been making with Rambo Bob is that revenge is wrong. There is no justification and the legal system works best. What I am bothered by is the attempt to connect the protesters and the shooter in this incident. One officer had an entry point at his shoulder and exit wound near his spine in the lower back. The witnesses saw muzzle flash 100 to 125 yards away from where the officers were shot and behind the protesters. These shots did not come from the protesters, but came from a higher point behind the protesters.

...and a military trained sniper would have had a "hidey hole" to shoot from and far more than 100-125 yards away. Min safe distance to escape for most shots is 1/2 mile or more.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan




Ferguson Police Chief resigns. Thugs move into Ferguson to riot, loot and two police are shot. KKK-665x385

Ku Klux Klan Releases Letter Threatening ‘Lethal Force’ Against Ferguson Protesters

November 12, 2014


A Missouri chapter of the Ku Klux Klan has been distributing fliers in and around Ferguson, Missouri, in advance of the Michael Brown grand jury decision, warning of “lethal force” against violent protesters, the Huffington Post is reporting.

The fliers come from the Traditionalist American Knights Of The Ku Klux Klan (TAKKKK), based in Park Hills, Missouri, which is about 75 miles south of Ferguson. In them, violent protesters are warned that they have “awakened a sleeping giant.”


Ferguson Police Chief resigns. Thugs move into Ferguson to riot, loot and two police are shot. KKK-Letter

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1609144/ku-klux-klan-releases-letter-threatening-lethal-force-against-ferguson-protesters/#gbmZ7qqCsAgP2gcu.99

KarlRove

KarlRove

This is all the fault of the COWH and his admin for stoking the fires of racism the last six years

Sal

Sal

KarlRove wrote:This is all the fault of the COWH and his admin for stoking the fires of racism the last six years

By being black.

You are exhibit A.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Sal wrote:
KarlRove wrote:This is all the fault of the COWH and his admin for stoking the fires of racism the last six years

By being black.

You are exhibit A.

Actually look in the mirror....he has clowns like you as his minion

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
KarlRove wrote:I think it's time that some tough love was demonstrated. In thst town letting this go by unanswered is the wrong thing to do.


Nobody is advocating that the shooters should not be found and punished.  But let's also consider that Ferguson's cops are BAD COPS.
Ditto the city council, the Ferguson courts, the former police chief and the mayor. 

The hatred the black population has for Ferguson's cops is deserved.

Tough love is exactly what needs to be given the racist cops of Ferguson.

How do you know the exact two who were shot were the racist ones? Hmmm?


That's easy. They were cops on the Ferguson police department!  You know, the same ones who have been writing lots of tickets for black drivers, in keeping with their instructions from the Mayor and Town Council and  Police chief.  All the Ferguson cops are racists, ALL.

Sal

Sal

If you want to place blame for the shooting, better look to the shooter(s).

If you want to look at motivation, better to look to the people who established the Ferguson PD as the enforcement arm of institutionalized racism, rather than those who point that out.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:If you want to place blame for the shooting, better look to the shooter(s).

If you want to look at motivation, better to look to the people who established the Ferguson PD as the enforcement arm of institutionalized racism, rather than those who point that out.  

Motivation to kill? Moral, ethical and rational individuals do not kill innocent people doing their job. Ferguson definitely problems, and racism is a two way street. Being black does not justify criminal behaviour and bring white does not justify being oppressive.



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Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:
Sal wrote:If you want to place blame for the shooting, better look to the shooter(s).

If you want to look at motivation, better to look to the people who established the Ferguson PD as the enforcement arm of institutionalized racism, rather than those who point that out.  

Motivation to kill? Moral, ethical and rational individuals do not kill innocent people doing their job. Ferguson diffeniently has problems, and racism is a two way street. Bring black does not justify criminal behaviour and bring white does not justify being oppressive.

Pointing out institutional racism and the policies that empower it is not racism, or race-baiting, or fanning the flames of racism, or any of the other bullshit smoke screens you apologists like to throw up.

I am not justifying violence in any way, shape or form.

But, if you want to find the motivation that ignites these communities to lash out, you need to go to the root cause - institutional racism, not the people who acknowledge it's existence and protest against it.

Markle

Markle

KarlRove wrote:I think it's time that some tough love was demonstrated. In thst town letting this go by unanswered is the wrong thing to do.

Ferguson has become a magnet for those who want anarchy and riots.

Why could semi-retired President Obama spoken of the desperate need of parents being married and fathers taking responsibility rather than Ferguson?

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