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Senate letter on Iran derided from coast to coast as a political abomination

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Floridatexan

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https://storify.com/ReThinkDefense/senate-letter-on-iran-derided-coast-to-coast

Senate letter on Iran derided coast to coast as a "political abomination."
Dear GOP Senators, I'm writing you to ask the question that I think is on the mind of most Americans. What the heck were you thinking?

(See quotes from major newspapers across the country.)

KarlRove

KarlRove

Only by Democraps who are guilty of the same.

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2seaoat



They are common criminals. Not a smart one in the bunch to go along with this treason. I had a strong dislike for what Jane Fonda did, and I told her to her face why, but she pales in comparison what these traitors did. We are talking about coming to a diplomatic resolution, or certainly a military resolution which will involve massive engagements. This is not just drop a bomb and everything is going to be peachy. We have all of our allies working hard to accomplish a diplomatic resolution, and the answer is traitors in our midst. Next cotton will pull some more from his brain and declare that Arkansas is an independent nation.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Y'all have short term memory loss then -

Seven instances of Dems doing the same -

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/10/7-times-democrats-advised-americas-enemies-to-oppose-the-president/

KarlRove

KarlRove

So Seaoat you have seven trials to get done before the next 47. Get hot on it boy.

KarlRove

KarlRove

I don't think you want to go there.

2seaoat



I just want one trial. I want just one trial. One senator amongst the traitors who will stand before a jury of his peers and try to wiggle out of the crime they committed. If a jury lets him go.......I am good. If a jury convicts......I am good. However, either repeal the law or follow the law, and this comparison of apples and oranges........hell, I wanted Jane Fonda criminally charged. I have not changed my mind. You probably were all cozy with her being a traitor. You seem to be cozy with these traitors and you think it has a thing to do with politics. It is the very survival of this nation we are talking about. If a country who is the highest bidder, can come into our Congress and buy Senators, who will violate the law the advance the position of a foreign nation........well you and Jane can cozy up, because they are traitors all.

KarlRove

KarlRove

We can start with the trial for the seven previous instances I mentioned which were all promulgated by Democraps

KarlRove

KarlRove

You nation is already bought by corporations Seaoat. You're already beholden to something else

nadalfan



KarlRove wrote:We can start with the trial for the seven previous instances I mentioned which were all promulgated by Democraps

You keep bringing this up as if someone had done anything that comes close to what these 47 senators did.
But say they are equivalent, are you then suggesting it's wrong, and therefore, they should be prosecuted?

KarlRove

KarlRove

It did, especially Ted Kennedy asking the Russians, at the height of the Cold War, to intervene in the 1984 elections. You don't want to admit the fact that there's no a damn thing you can do short of a civil war to stop the GOP on this issue. Go ahead and prosecute 47 US Senators and see what happens.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

2seaoat wrote:They are common criminals.  Not a smart one in the bunch to go along with this treason.  I had a strong dislike for what Jane Fonda did, and I told her to her face why, but she pales in comparison what these traitors did.  We are talking about coming to a diplomatic resolution, or certainly a military resolution which will involve massive engagements.  This is not just drop a bomb and everything is going to be peachy.  We have all of our allies working hard to accomplish a diplomatic resolution, and the answer is traitors in our midst.  Next cotton will pull some more from his brain and declare that Arkansas is an independent nation.

I don't know why you keep bringing up Jane Fonda, but I think she was trying to do the right thing. These people are not.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Fonda should have been jailed

2seaoat



I don't know why you keep bringing up Jane Fonda, but I think she was trying to do the right thing. These people are not.

Jane Fonda thought she was doing the right thing and the rules did not apply to her, and these folks believe they are doing the right thing and the rules do not apply. The rules do apply, and the reason I keep bringing up Jane Fonda is because I confronted her and Tom Hayden in a full auditorium where she was enhancing her career, like these Senators are trying to do now. She had blind ambition, and did not help for a second bringing the Viet Nam War to an end. I wanted the war ended. I want Iran held to strict standards of verification. However, there is a lawful way to do it, and an illegal way to do it.

Vikingwoman



Jane Fonda was not a traitor trying to undermine the President. She took a picture w/ a Viet Cong hat on 40 yrs ago. Not even close to this.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Senate letter on Iran derided from coast to coast as a political abomination 9k=[quote="Vikingwoman"]Jane Fonda was not a traitor trying to undermine the President. She took a picture w/ a Viet Cong hat on 40 yrs ago. Not even close to this.[/quote

sitting on an anti aircraft battery...TREASON. ask the Vietnam vets wench.

She is looking through the sight in the aforementioned picture. Why?


Here is from SNOPES which did HAPPEN


"There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions.

"In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison — the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off — which sent that officer berserk.

"In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double vision — permanently grounding him — from the Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

"From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years in the Hilton — the first three of which he was listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit.

"They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and, 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'"

"Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes.

"Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four.

"For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs, including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they used it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference' would also seem appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and comfort to the enemy' alone should've been sufficient for the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and famous.

"I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.

"Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't know such actions ever took place.

"The only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some air base or another where 'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied."

And there is this account:

"I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I later buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

"At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. [my normal weight is 170 lb.). We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals.'"

"When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as 'humane and lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel re-bar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.

"Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame on the Disney Company.

"I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband (at the time), Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored by '100 Years of Great Women.'"

"After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.

"Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes — the North Vietnamese communists — took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever."

In the words of Paul Harvey, America, "now you know the rest of the story."

ABC and Babs Walters will undoubtedly include "Hanoi" Jane in their televised celebration because their black souls are too hardened and too imbued with an anti-American sentiment to do anything else. And ultimately, they will all answer for what they have done in their lives. In the meantime, I don't plan on watching anything that has Jane Fonda's face anywhere near it. I won't buy her videos; I won't rent or go see her movies. As far as I'm concerned, she's already dead to me.

Whether or not you agreed with the war in Vietnam, whether you're a Vietnam vet or a former member of the protest movement, or whether you're too old or too young to have been there, the behavior of Jane Fonda towards our own military men is reprehensible beyond belief. All I ask is that you think about these accounts the next time you see her. Let your conscience guide your actions from there.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp#Hjvg0GygF7PrWW84.99

Vikingwoman



That's a false story,PD. You knew it was false. Here's the real snopes report.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


You weren't there.

Vikingwoman



If you read your own 7 instances,PD not one of them told the enemy not to deal w/ the President and their agreement would be revoked. They all went on peace talks. The President is trying to negotiate a peace treaty and they are opposing that. BIG DIFFERENCE.

nadalfan



Washington Post poll

http://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/by-sending-a-letter-to-iran-did-republican-senators-go-too-far/ea237467-d267-4c3a-a39c-eac04d5c1d6e_poll.html

93% say republicans crossed the line


Good, I hope they remember come election time

2seaoat



In 1988, sixteen years after the fact, Fonda finally met with Vietnam veterans to apologize for her actions. This nationally televised apology (during which she characterized her actions as "thoughtless and careless")
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp#F4vx

These senators actions are thoughtless, careless, and illegal. Prosecute.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

As one would expect in the ravings of sick, racist former soldier with PTSD, War Hero's answer to almost every national or international problem is to go to war.  Show'em who's boss! Nuke'em! Kill!


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