Prosecute under the Logan Act those who sent a correspondence to our enemy

Funny how all of you DEMOCRAPS have looked the other way when your party did the same. If Iran isn't a threat as you say, what's the big deal then?

Here ya go two faced liars-

Ted Kennedy, yes the drunken poster child of killing his mistress at Chappaquiddick, asked the Soviet Union to intervene in the 1984 elections.
There's your true treason Democraps....but I am sure you will look the other way.

http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27738-before-dems-yell-treason-at-republicans-look-what-ted-kennedy-did

ALSO..........


For instance-

In fact, the angry speaker was Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah — reacting in 1987 to Congress’s passage of the Boland Amendment, cutting off U.S. aid to Nicaragua’s Contra rebels against the vehement wishes of President Ronald Reagan.
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Recall the bilious battles over the Iraq War, particularly after Democrats captured Congress in 2006 with promises to force Bush to withdraw troops from Iraq. As Democrats sought to force withdrawal timelines on the White House, some conservatives sarcastically referred to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as “General Pelosi.”
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Pelosi and Bush also butted heads in the spring of 2007 on Syria policy. Against the White House’s wishes, the House Democratic leader traveled to Damascus to meet with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad. (Pelosi hoped that Assad could be moderated through engagement; Bush was intent on isolating the Syrian dictator.) “The president is the one who conducts foreign policy, not the speaker of the House,” then- Vice President Dick Cheney groused to Rush Limbaugh.
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Can a Republican Congress stop a nuclear arms control agreement it doesn’t like some other way? Just ask Bill Clinton: In 1999, Clinton’s White House was stunned when a GOP-led Senate rejected an international nuclear test ban treaty he’d signed three years earlier.

The New York Times said the vote — the Senate’s first rejection of a foreign treaty since 1920 — had “crushed one of President Clinton’s major foreign policy goals.” Clinton called the defeat of that pact, known as the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, “reckless partisanship” that posed risks “to the safety of the American people and the world.”
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When Clinton asked Congress to support his 1999 bombing campaign over Kosovo, which was already underway, he urged GOP leaders to show that America “speak[s] with a single voice abroad.” But Congress refused to grant him its approval, and for good measure added a ban on ground troops that Clinton wasn’t even thinking of sending.

The fight between Reagan and Congressional Democrats in the 1980s over Nicaragua’s anti-communist Contras was as bitter as any of those disputes, and included charges of political sabotage from the White House against Democrats.

In late 1987 Jim Wright, then the Democratic House Speaker, met with Nicaraguan leader Daniel Ortega amid sensitive peace talks between Ortega’s government and the Contra rebels. At the time, Republican Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum of Kansas suggested that Wright’s personal diplomacy might have violated the Logan Act, and Reagan later personally dressed Wright down in a private meeting.

“There have been many bitter battles” over the years, said Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. But, he added, the tone of Monday’s letter to Iran from 47 Republican Senators may be in a league of its own.

“What’s unusual about this — but completely in tune with what’s happened in Washington in recent years — is the contempt with which it treats the president,” Mann said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/gop-iran-letter-115943.html#ixzz3U0ZazEZp

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I suppose Seaoat is going to keep the lawyers busy trying all of these folks for treason.

Republicans Admit: That Iran Letter Was a Dumb Idea


Could this be the under statement of the year?

KarlRove wrote:Funny how all of you DEMOCRAPS have looked the other way when your party did the same. If Iran isn't a threat as you say, what's the big deal then?

Here ya go two faced liars-

Ted Kennedy, yes the drunken poster child of killing his mistress at Chappaquiddick, asked the Soviet Union to intervene in the 1984 elections.
There's your true treason Democraps....but I am sure you will look the other way.

http://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/27738-before-dems-yell-treason-at-republicans-look-what-ted-kennedy-did

ALSO..........


For instance-

In fact, the angry speaker was Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah — reacting in 1987 to Congress’s passage of the Boland Amendment, cutting off U.S. aid to Nicaragua’s Contra rebels against the vehement wishes of President Ronald Reagan.
--------

Recall the bilious battles over the Iraq War, particularly after Democrats captured Congress in 2006 with promises to force Bush to withdraw troops from Iraq. As Democrats sought to force withdrawal timelines on the White House, some conservatives sarcastically referred to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as “General Pelosi.”
---------

Pelosi and Bush also butted heads in the spring of 2007 on Syria policy. Against the White House’s wishes, the House Democratic leader traveled to Damascus to meet with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad. (Pelosi hoped that Assad could be moderated through engagement; Bush was intent on isolating the Syrian dictator.) “The president is the one who conducts foreign policy, not the speaker of the House,” then- Vice President Dick Cheney groused to Rush Limbaugh.
---------

Can a Republican Congress stop a nuclear arms control agreement it doesn’t like some other way? Just ask Bill Clinton: In 1999, Clinton’s White House was stunned when a GOP-led Senate rejected an international nuclear test ban treaty he’d signed three years earlier.

The New York Times said the vote — the Senate’s first rejection of a foreign treaty since 1920 — had “crushed one of President Clinton’s major foreign policy goals.” Clinton called the defeat of that pact, known as the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, “reckless partisanship” that posed risks “to the safety of the American people and the world.”
---------

When Clinton asked Congress to support his 1999 bombing campaign over Kosovo, which was already underway, he urged GOP leaders to show that America “speak[s] with a single voice abroad.” But Congress refused to grant him its approval, and for good measure added a ban on ground troops that Clinton wasn’t even thinking of sending.

The fight between Reagan and Congressional Democrats in the 1980s over Nicaragua’s anti-communist Contras was as bitter as any of those disputes, and included charges of political sabotage from the White House against Democrats.

In late 1987 Jim Wright, then the Democratic House Speaker, met with Nicaraguan leader Daniel Ortega amid sensitive peace talks between Ortega’s government and the Contra rebels. At the time, Republican Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum of Kansas suggested that Wright’s personal diplomacy might have violated the Logan Act, and Reagan later personally dressed Wright down in a private meeting.

“There have been many bitter battles” over the years, said Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. But, he added, the tone of Monday’s letter to Iran from 47 Republican Senators may be in a league of its own.

“What’s unusual about this — but completely in tune with what’s happened in Washington in recent years — is the contempt with which it treats the president,” Mann said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/gop-iran-letter-115943.html#ixzz3U0ZazEZp

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I suppose Seaoat is going to keep the lawyers busy trying all of these folks for treason.

The contras were paid killers operating for the CIA under Reagan's administration.  The republican leader was concerned that a real people's government would be successful in Nicaragua, removing control from a few ultra rich bastards (his friends) and that the people's movement might spread through all of latin America.  Reality.

Reagan was no American -- he paved the way for Corporatist Amerika Inc.  When he was awake ...  LOL

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Kirk is on it.

He was on one list, and was not on another. I posted when I saw he was not on the second list. I have since confirmed that he is on the list, and I do not feel like such a dumb asz calling his office.

I do not care if this law has been broken by others. The law has a distinct purpose to have American Foreign Policy spoken with one voice, and we can fight politically amongst ourselves internally, but this cannot spill over. These individuals must be prosecuted. I do not care if there is leniency, but they must be prosecuted. It is more than a dumb move. It puts Americans at risk. This is entirely unacceptable. If the new standard is that any member of the house or senate can negotiate and make direct contact with foreign interests on behalf of the United States without Authority, then repeal Logan. However, to not enforce a clear violation of the same is simply bad policy.

2seaoat wrote:Kirk is on it.

He was on one list, and was not on another.  I posted when I saw he was not on the second list.  I have since confirmed that he is on the list, and I do not feel like such a dumb asz calling his office.

I do not care if this law has been broken by others.  The law has a distinct purpose to have American Foreign Policy spoken with one voice, and we can fight politically amongst ourselves internally, but this cannot spill over.  These individuals must be prosecuted.  I do not care if there is leniency, but they must be prosecuted.   It is more than a dumb move.  It puts Americans at risk.  This is entirely unacceptable.   If the new standard is that any member of the house or senate can negotiate and make direct contact with foreign interests on behalf of the United States without Authority, then repeal Logan.  However, to not enforce a clear violation of the same is simply bad policy.

This administration has a history of selectively enforcing laws. They have already signaled there has been no violation and no amount of letter writing or phone calls will change their position. It hasn't in the past.

What's the punishment for stupid?

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Kirk is on it.

He was on one list, and was not on another.  I posted when I saw he was not on the second list.  I have since confirmed that he is on the list, and I do not feel like such a dumb asz calling his office.

I do not care if this law has been broken by others.  The law has a distinct purpose to have American Foreign Policy spoken with one voice, and we can fight politically amongst ourselves internally, but this cannot spill over.  These individuals must be prosecuted.  I do not care if there is leniency, but they must be prosecuted.   It is more than a dumb move.  It puts Americans at risk.  This is entirely unacceptable.   If the new standard is that any member of the house or senate can negotiate and make direct contact with foreign interests on behalf of the United States without Authority, then repeal Logan.  However, to not enforce a clear violation of the same is simply bad policy.

This administration has a history of selectively enforcing laws. They have already signaled there has been no violation and no amount of letter writing or phone calls will change their position. It hasn't in the past.

What's the punishment for stupid?

Obama getting elected.