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As I told Bob this afternoon......chit happens

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2seaoat



Like Sal....the last five hours have not been good. Mrs. Seaoats birthday is Monday so we went to a great Italian restaurant to celebrate. We had a wonderful meal and a good time, but as we were leaving the concrete outside the restaurant had become extremely slick, and she almost fell....no problem. We get home, and because we were in Arizona for about 10 days the snow had melted in spots and there were black ice on the blacktop. We carefully get inside, and she calls the neighbor who they work on an American Legion state competition and the wife helps with the art work and proof reading and helping with the writing. She gets to the bottom step and slips on the ice with a severe twist in the ankle. I hear her cry help her inside, examine the ankle and she has an upper ankle fracture. Give her two Ibu and lift her allowing her to use the good leg and get her in the car. She is in much pain at this point. We get to the emergency room and I tell them she has a high ankle fracture, no compound but fractured. They get her into a room and allow some pain medications, xray and determine she has a high spiral fracture of the Fibula and a nasty six inch fracture. They need to order a special nail and they thought they would have to wait until Monday, but located one for surgery at 8am Sunday......I just stopped at home, let the dog out, got her hair brush and IPAD, sweat pants, and will be spending the night at the hospital......not as serious as Sal's experience, but quite painful.

Life is a celebration and we venture on, but chit happens. I was happy I could lift her because I am restricted to 50lbs because of the widowmaker annuryism they found......and they put a temporary cast on which relieved some of the movement and pain.......she is comfortable now with three shots......I will update mid day....but again chit happens.

Vikingwoman



How could you tell it was a fracture w/o an x-ray?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:Like Sal....the last five hours have not been good.  Mrs. Seaoats birthday is Monday so we went to a great Italian restaurant to celebrate.   We had a wonderful meal and a good time, but as we were leaving the concrete outside the restaurant had become extremely slick, and she almost fell....no problem.  We get home, and because we were in Arizona for about 10 days the snow had melted in spots and there were black ice on the blacktop.  We carefully get inside, and she calls the neighbor who they work on an American Legion state competition and the wife helps with the art work and proof reading and helping with the writing.  She gets to the bottom step and slips on the ice with a severe twist in the ankle.  I hear her cry help her inside, examine the ankle and she has an upper ankle fracture.  Give her two Ibu and lift her allowing her to use the good leg and get her in the car.  She is in much pain at this point.  We get to the emergency room and I tell them she has a high ankle fracture, no compound but fractured.  They get her into a room and allow some pain medications, xray and determine she has a high spiral fracture of the Fibula and a nasty six inch fracture.  They need to order a special nail and they thought they would have to wait until Monday, but located one for surgery at 8am Sunday......I just stopped at home, let the dog out, got her hair brush and IPAD, sweat pants, and will be spending the night at the hospital......not as serious as Sal's experience, but quite painful.

Life is a celebration and we venture on, but chit happens.  I was happy I could lift her because I am restricted to 50lbs because of the widowmaker annuryism they found......and they put a temporary cast on which relieved some of the movement and pain.......she is comfortable now with three shots......I will update mid day....but again chit happens.


So sorry about your wife.
Was the tibia fractured?

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Sorry, Seaoat, and I hope she recovers okay. My only broken bone ever was a fractured ankle back in 2001. It was a simple fracture, but it was no fun to go through two months in a cast.

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Sal

Sal

Vikingwoman wrote:How could you tell it was a fracture w/o an x-ray?

Oats has x-ray vision.

Duh ...

Best to your wife, SO.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Good she had you there old man. Hope she gets well soon.

2seaoat



Surgery went great this morning at 8am. The Ortho guy was common sense and experienced. Put a 15 inch titanium nail along the full length of the tibia. A little concerned on her O2 levels, but they are saying that is from the morphine in surgery. Her pain levels are now in the 3-4 range and she is off the morphine pump. I for few winks of sleep staying with her last night because I wanted to be there when the Ortho guy gave options, once she returned from surgery spoke to him afterwards and we all believe surgery was a success. So they will release her Monday at noon and I had a full day of appointments, so when she was sleeping I try to go to the office......well as I told Bob.....chit happens.....the Prius tire indicator lights up and I have a flat front left tire....I stop at a gas station....pump it up, only to have it go flat at the office. I call around some area Walmarts. Find one with the tires get some of that fill foam and just make it to the Wal Mart when it went totally flat. An hour later they tell me they do not have the tires.......I stay cool and ask what they would suggest as options, and they put the spare on and bring a rear tire to the front so the doughnut spare is not steering or pulling the car with power. My daughter who was visiting the wife at the hospital and setting up a shower chair at our home is now as I am typing going though a storage shed at my house 50 miles away to pull two of the original tires from the Prius which were on the rear and great shape.......I will drive to her house....spend the night...transfer the tires.....get them installed at 7am.....drive 60 miles back to the hospital, and get her home at noon....Chit happens.....you sometimes just need to grind.

Sal

Sal

2seaoat wrote:Surgery went great this morning at 8am.  The Ortho guy was common sense and experienced.  Put a 15 inch titanium nail along the full length of the tibia.  A little concerned on her O2 levels, but they are saying that is from the morphine in surgery.  Her pain levels are now in the 3-4 range and she is off the morphine pump.  I for  few winks of sleep staying with her last night because I wanted to be there when the Ortho guy gave options, once she returned from surgery spoke to him afterwards and we all believe surgery was a success.  So they will release her Monday at noon and I had a full day of appointments, so when she was sleeping I try to go to the office......well as I told Bob.....chit happens.....the Prius tire indicator lights up and I have a flat front left tire....I stop at a gas station....pump it up, only to have it go flat at the office.   I call around some area Walmarts.  Find one with the tires get some of that fill foam and just make it to the Wal Mart when it went totally flat.   An hour later they tell me they do not have the tires.......I stay cool and ask what they would suggest as options, and they put the spare on and bring a rear tire to the front so the doughnut spare is not steering or pulling the car with power.  My daughter who was visiting the wife at the hospital and setting up a shower chair at our home is now as I am typing going though a storage shed at my house 50 miles away to pull two of the original tires from the Prius which were on the rear and great shape.......I will drive to her house....spend the night...transfer the tires.....get them installed at 7am.....drive 60 miles back to the hospital, and get her home at noon....Chit happens.....you sometimes just need to grind.

Sleeping in the hospital is impossible, unless you're a knocked out patient.

Every 15 minutes, either a nurse is coming in or something's beeping or a door is slamming.

I spent over 48 hours in the hospital and might've gotten four hours of sporadically interrupted sleep.

2seaoat



How could you tell it was a fracture w/o an x-ray?


Pretty easy. I was an Eagle Scout and took advanced first aid in college to teach first aid. I had broken ankle in an adult basketball league when the kids were young and I intimately know the ankle. On removing the sock you slowly and carefully feel both major ankle bones and just under the skin the bone starting about three inches above the ankle bone had bone displacement and extensions pressing the skin but no compound or skin piercing. I walked in and told the emergency room that she had a high ankle fracture. They brought the portable exray machine and took some shots which clearly showed the extent of a six to seven inch spiral fracture of the tibia.....and she asked the same thing as you did.....how did I know.....once I determined at the house it was fractured I had to give her Ibu and a half hour in the emergency room before the pain shots she started getting some pain relief......she is a brave trooper and I am proud of how she has held up.

Sal

Sal

X-Ray vision would've been way cooler.

2seaoat



X-Ray vision would've been way cooler.


cannot do.....but after looking at some pretty hot young nurses.....I can use my imagination quite well.......and you are completely right......every half hour right when you close your eyes somebody is doing a blood draw or asking questions.....I am at 36 hours and no sleep and cannot wait to crash at my daughter's home.

Vikingwoman



Sal wrote:X-Ray vision would've been way cooler.

You know old Oats is a MD too w/o the degree just like he's a lawyer.LOL!

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:Surgery went great this morning at 8am.  The Ortho guy was common sense and experienced.  Put a 15 inch titanium nail along the full length of the tibia.  A little concerned on her O2 levels, but they are saying that is from the morphine in surgery.  Her pain levels are now in the 3-4 range and she is off the morphine pump.  I for  few winks of sleep staying with her last night because I wanted to be there when the Ortho guy gave options, once she returned from surgery spoke to him afterwards and we all believe surgery was a success.  So they will release her Monday at noon and I had a full day of appointments, so when she was sleeping I try to go to the office......well as I told Bob.....chit happens.....the Prius tire indicator lights up and I have a flat front left tire....I stop at a gas station....pump it up, only to have it go flat at the office.   I call around some area Walmarts.  Find one with the tires get some of that fill foam and just make it to the Wal Mart when it went totally flat.   An hour later they tell me they do not have the tires.......I stay cool and ask what they would suggest as options, and they put the spare on and bring a rear tire to the front so the doughnut spare is not steering or pulling the car with power.  My daughter who was visiting the wife at the hospital and setting up a shower chair at our home is now as I am typing going though a storage shed at my house 50 miles away to pull two of the original tires from the Prius which were on the rear and great shape.......I will drive to her house....spend the night...transfer the tires.....get them installed at 7am.....drive 60 miles back to the hospital, and get her home at noon....Chit happens.....you sometimes just need to grind.


Tibial Intramedullay rod ......you said fibula fx before.

2seaoat



What a nightmare. 48 hours of hell and finally I got her home. If you want to get an idea of how screwed up our health system get a load of this:

She should have been released at noon, but they knew she had insurance as a parade of specialist came to visit the room. First, a completely incompetend PT who had to fit her boot.......she was too old to be doing the job and my wife has been to great PT for her rotator injury last summer, but all she had to do was fit the boot help her put it on, and show her how to take it off for bathing and dressing. She took an hour of incoherent babbling and barking at my wife as I kept my mouth shut. She left the room and we both started laughing. Hold on.....we next get a visit from an occupational therapy person who spent 15 minutes which had NOTHING to do with her injury....utter incompetence but billing. They take some gadget for cooling her leg for swelling instead of simple ice packs periodically being applied....again unecessary and costly to the insurance company. They said they would not release her unless she had a walker, and we have insurance and our company will pay....my wife put her foot down and said her brother was bringing his walker from knee surgery, and they had a fit rolling their eyes that the insurance would pay for it(obscene as to the mark ups and totally unecessary).

Next a woman comes in to show my wife how to get self injections for a blood thinner. I am not happy about this at all, but she opens a new small cd player with screen to watch a 15 minute cover my asz liability for the damn blood thinner, and the damn nurse never shows her how to do the shot which fortunately earlier in the day she was given one to the abdomen and she asked question and was shown what to do......what a Cluster F........when we finally were able to extract ourself from the hospital it was almost 6pm.......48 hours of mind numbing duplication and hospital billing......I will give an update later, but the ACA will not cure the chit I saw over the last 48 hours.......I saw none of this when my lung was removed.....none of it. This is a small town hospital which would not even qualify as a regional center, but it is nice to have it only six miles away, but the quality fall off from Northwestern or Moffit is a long fall.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Other than that....how did the surgery go?

2seaoat



Other than that....how did the surgery go?


It appears good, but the extension of the nail right up to the knee is actually causing more problems with mobility and pain than the actual injury. She is home in bed.....has easy access to bathroom, kitchen, and the living room since I have been sick and we moved into a ranch......she would have had a nightmare in our old house with two floors.

Pain is controlled, and the doctor wants her putting pressure on the boot. Apparently the nail will protect the injury and it will heal quicker with pressure on the leg from walking. She is a trooper and doing well.....today was her birthday, and it all started with me taking her out for dinner on the weekend because most decent restaurants are closed on Mondays......lesson learned.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Did you get to see her post-op film?7

2seaoat



Did you get to see her post-op film?7


No....we are both exhausted. I am not doing well with my health and she is exhausted getting little sleep. We are home and both of us are finally relaxing. She tossed the damn cooler they insisted she use and our insurance paid, and is using this great cooler with a pump and light pad for her knee which is her biggest swelling challenge, and her brother had from a knee replacement surgery last fall.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:Did you get to see her post-op film?7


No....we are both exhausted.  I am not doing well with my health and she is exhausted getting little sleep.  We are home and both of us are finally relaxing.  She tossed the damn cooler they insisted she use and our insurance paid, and is using this great cooler with a pump and light pad for her knee which is her biggest swelling challenge, and her brother had from a knee replacement surgery last fall.

I hope you both get rest and begin to feel better.

2seaoat



I hope you both get rest and begin to feel better.

Made her breakfast, and lunch then off to work returning around 7pm. We have a chair in the bathtub and a bath is next on the agenda tonight. She is tolerating the pain with her pills and she successfully gave herself the shot this morning for anti clotting. She has been a real trooper and is tough as nails.....which now she has a 15 inch one in her leg.

Markle

Markle

I am sorry to hear about your wife and her broken leg. My thoughts and prayers are with you both for a speedy and complete recovery.

Sal

Sal

Best wishes to your wife, SO.

That woman must be a saint.

2seaoat



That woman must be a saint.

She is a saint. I am the luckiest man in the world. She has been the best partner in life, and she has learned to handle chit when it happens. I wish I could do more for her now, but it is going to be about two weeks of pain and adjustment, and I have warned her when the pain ends and the ankle still depends on upper body strength to get around a depression will set in.....I was fine with the pain after my ankle break, but it was going to work on crutches and having to travel.....get out of the car....make an appointment.....get back in......all the while back then they did not want weight on the ankle for a month.....with her nail, they want weight right away, but the loss of mobility takes mental toughness....she will do fine.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:That woman must be a saint.

She is a saint.  I am the luckiest man in the world.  She has been the best partner in life, and she has learned to handle chit when it happens.  I wish I could do more for her now, but it is going to be about two weeks of pain and adjustment, and I have warned her when the pain ends and the ankle still depends on upper body strength to get around a depression will set in.....I was fine with the pain after my ankle break, but it was going to work on crutches and having to travel.....get out of the car....make an appointment.....get back in......all the while back then they did not want weight on the ankle for a month.....with her nail, they want weight right away, but the loss of mobility takes mental toughness....she will do fine.


The boot will be easier to tolerate and maneuver.

2seaoat



She has her monthly breakfast club with her girlfriends from high school, and they usually go to each others homes and spend about four hours laughing and having fun. This month they planned a dinner at 5pm at a local restaurant, and this morning she tells me if she is feeling "better" she might want to go for awhile.......tough as nails and still in obvious pain. We will see how she feels later today.

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